Honda Civic GX Regular Service
Hi all,
I have a 2007 Civic GX and I am just over 5000 miles. They recommend 7500 before oil changes, but my neighbor said I should stick to 5000 miles. I was thinking that at 5000 miles, I can also get the filter work done when it needed to be done when needed. Also, the 15,000 mile oil change involved more than just oil and such. When I bought my car, they gave me 4 major oil changes (the 15000 mile kind). Also, what kind of oil should I have them use? Synthetic or natural? Weight?
Finally, Do you have to buy the new filters from Honda, or is there another place to get them for less? I've seen recommendations on here that said the filters do not need to be changed, except to keep the guarantee valid... are there any final thoughts on that?
I have a 2007 Civic GX and I am just over 5000 miles. They recommend 7500 before oil changes, but my neighbor said I should stick to 5000 miles. I was thinking that at 5000 miles, I can also get the filter work done when it needed to be done when needed. Also, the 15,000 mile oil change involved more than just oil and such. When I bought my car, they gave me 4 major oil changes (the 15000 mile kind). Also, what kind of oil should I have them use? Synthetic or natural? Weight?
Finally, Do you have to buy the new filters from Honda, or is there another place to get them for less? I've seen recommendations on here that said the filters do not need to be changed, except to keep the guarantee valid... are there any final thoughts on that?
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in fact, i don't think 5000mi or 7500mi is suggested, but rather ~10k (rather they say that your car's cpu will tell you, and estimate 10k'ish). i don't have it in front of me, so forgive me if i'm wrong on that. b/c this car uses CNG, which of course is much much cleaner, the oil actually maintains it's integrity much longer. one of the regulars here has quoted a honda study that showed excellent oil integrity after 50k.
we're glad to have you among the enlightened CNG few! if you have more questions after reading the manual, let me know!
epi
per mile. thats about $ 250.00 per 10,000 miles driven. Check your GX Owner supplement and call the dealer for cng fuel filter prices. Be sure you are sitting in the car with seat belt fastened when you make the call ! Some posters on this board have stated that changing the gas filters is not needed. I have never seen HONDA specify service too often. Example , coolant 120,000 miles , spark plugs 105,000 miles.
At list prices, honda cng components are not cheap. Fuel injectors are close to $800.00 each and the high pressure regulator assy is about $2800.00 , plus labor !. so if you want to risk voiding the warranty by skipping fuel filter changes, go ahead. If you are using the Phill , no chance of an oil contamination. At the public stations I once got a real big slug of oil in the CNG. (the station had a bad compressor and it was sending out a lot of oil with the fuel).Just my 2 cents worth from 2 car / 5 year of cng vehicle ownership
adea
Does anyone know what the cost of the high pressure CNG filter is on the 2006 GX, or what the part number is? Hopefully it is not outrageous!
The internal engine components will last longer on CNG , but maintenance cost is not any less in general. And on a gasoline honda , 250,000 miles from an engine is easy as long as you don't overheat it or run it out of oil, and that will outlast everything else on the car.
Did A Honda salesman tell you about Maintenance savings' ? if so , it's time to call Honda corporate about that guy.
Question: How could you tell? I mean, did you actually see the oil somehow? Or did the station tech just tell you the compressor was bad?
And more generally, for anyone who might know... People have mentioned particular filling stations as being better or worse about how much compressor oil is in the gas... Again, how can you tell? Is it just that your fuel filter is dirtier after regular use of one station as opposed to another, or can you tell right away? I'll have a choice of a couple of stations on my regular route to work, and I'd obviously like to avoid "dirty" gas if possible. (I'm in CA, bay area, if that makes any difference.)
Garry
Anyone in the PG&E service area with an opinion on their gas?
my neighbor works for PG&E and drives a CNG Camry. i brought this issue up with him once, and he reacted as if it is no longer a real concern. who knows for sure? it might be worth calling the Berkeley garbage folks down the street ... they have been filling up there for a long time, and their chief mechanic probably knows best what issues (if any) they've had.
the one thing i really don't like about the trillium in berkeley is that ridiculous diesel engine that is used to pump up the pressure ... every time it fires up i think to myself 'yeah, CNG is better for the environment' ... too bad that ridiculous engine probably takes it back 2 steps for the 1 we're going forward.
epi
Also, does anyone know where or how to change this filter? I'm pretty knowledgeable about cars so I can probably change it myself, but I just don't know the location of the filter.
thanks in advanced for your help
Am I right here guys?
As far as the engine failing if you don't change the filters, that's correct, it will fail. If your fuel source has water and/or oil in it you can foul one or more of injectors which are expensive to diagnose and replace.
I have a home compressor and utility gas, so I have virtually no chance of having oil or water in my gas. But, if you fill at commercial stations you are at greater risk. Or if your source is a home well you are at the greatest risk of problems from fuel contamination.
i tried to pull up more info on the specifics on the motor that are special for cng but couldnt find details online nor any helpful info from the user's manual, which basically is just a normal civic manual.
question i have: in terms of maintenance what should i be looking at or better question is where can i find a maintenance schedule for these cars?
ive read conflicting info about the fuel low and high filter replacement schedule. what is correct? low done at 10k mile and high at 30k?
also as far as the oil filter, is this a normal civic filter or is there one specific for a gx? how difficult is it to change out the fuel filters? ive done routine maintenance on normal gas engines like changing out fuel pumps and filters but cng is a totally new world for me. i am mechanically inclined but definitely not a mechanic
any other helpful info in terms of what i should look for on a car with this mileage will be helpful. i plan to do some of the normal tune-up items that are routine for a car w/ this mileage.
does anyone know if its typical for gov agencies or pg&e to be on top of the maintenance for these cars? if so, is there anyway to pull-up records from honda if in fact the work was done there? it woudl be nice to not have to change out a timing belt if its not needed.