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Mercedes-Benz M-class (ML320, ML350, ML500 and ML55) 2005 and earlier



  • neil99neil99 Posts: 11
    It happened to mine last week while we were having dinner at a restaurant. A F-350 with a trailer backed into my truck and pushed it backward along the curb for at least 3 feet. No observed bodily damages. Just the bumper and the wheel alignments are off. Thank God. The other driver admitted that was 100% his fault. The police station was only 1 block away from the restaurant and we filed a police report immediately.

    Questions? Does anyone know a good body shop in the western Chicago suburb? Robert Exconde(sp)?
  • biker5biker5 Posts: 199
    IMHO, If the other driver admitted that his 100% fault..Why don't you just take it to the dealer/MB body shop to get it fix so you can be sure that the job is up to the MB spec. If the need some parts or paint to use they are ready available.Just my .02 cent.
  • neil99neil99 Posts: 11
    Thanks for your kind advice. The 2 MB dealers in my area do not have their own body shops. They both recommended their outsourcing body shops. I have contacted them both last week and today. I also went to the State Farm Claims Center to get the ball rolling. All estimates came out to be very close to each other. I just want the body shop to repair everything back to original (almost). I know it is impossible to repair to what it was before. I hope nothing major happen to the frame structure.
  • rexconde1rexconde1 Posts: 278
    MotorWerks of Barrington uses Collision Technique. Wauconda, Illinois

    Not sure if I can post it here though.
    When I had my accident, they did great work on my ML

  • peter81peter81 Posts: 3
    I'm trying to buy a 01 320 and am being quoted sticker in TX. How much off sticker or above invoice should I expect? I'm being sold the demand is up and inventory is down song and dance. Help is appreciated.
  • noelbongnoelbong Posts: 41
    I don't quite like the engine sound of my '00 ML320. It sounds more like a diesel engine than a gasoline engine. Instead of the smooth 'hm' I think it sounds like "Le le ...." Any thought?

    Please don't get offended, maybe it is just my ML that sounds like that.
  • thor8thor8 Posts: 303
    What fuel grade are you running or did you get bad gas. The ML engine is a high compression engine, using low octane will cause what is known a dieseling or preignition.
  • nikorrnikorr Posts: 23
    I know one in Arlington Heights. He's bodyshop is one of the best around.You will see perfect job on other cars.Will post you more info later today.Dont remember the phone now. ..>> shop is close to BUSSE and CENTRAL <<.. He'll print out for you what must have be done to finish the job.I was there once and it was like the new ....
    P.S. Dont even try MAACO or you will cry :-))
  • djdjdjdj Posts: 111
    When I bought my extended warranty (on a Starmark vehicle) I was told it was transferable on the direct sale to another owner, but not on a trade-in. They did not qualify that by saying "to anybody but us"; it was just not transferable on a trade-in. I don't know if a new vehicle is treated differently.

    Why not ask MBUSA.COM's customer assistance people if its transferable back to the dealer?

    Its comes with a 4 year warranty. I think the add'l warranty on a new vehicle is expensive though I don't remember what one extra year costs. It also depends on your annual mileage; will you top the 50K in 4 years, or the 5 years?
  • nikorrnikorr Posts: 23
    Phone # 847/670 8881 , Auto collision repair.I dont remember the name. Good luck .
  • kenyeekenyee Posts: 738
    You should be able to get it for invoice or really close to it. Tell them you know about the 3% holdback and the 2001 incentive to clear out old models.
    If you have to pay MSRP, just tell them to put your name in line for the next 2002 that comes in and you can order all the options exactly as you like, which is useful if you're not a Bose fan since nearly everything on the lot will have Bose.
    If you're in Houston, go to Star Motors and visit Curt Rich. He's a straight shooter and won't yank you around like it sounds like you're getting.

    Has it always sounded this way?
    I've found that the engine is deeper/truckier sounding when stomping on the gas than others like the MDX/RX which sound more like a car engine. Doesn't matter much to me, but it probably bugs some people. :-)
  • sshowittsshowitt Posts: 137
    Call Lisa Marie Lehrman at Courtesy M/B in Chico, California, she has all your warranty questions answered and at a price that can't be beat. I purchased an extended 4 yr premium waranty for my 430. I personally feel that it is a wise investment.
    BTW, as someone who had a 98 ML320 and now a 00ML430, I can say that the 430 definitely has some advantages, aside from the 00 updates.
    My wife loves the std. MCS navagation system. It has bigger brakes and tires. The power is wonderful for merging onto the freeway. The downside naturally is fuel economy. Wth the 320, we averaged 400 miles per tankfull, with the 430, just over 300 miles per tankfull, according to the trip computor. Nothing like cubic inches, though. It would be wise to price out a 320 with the options that one would prefer and then price out the 430, many of those options are std., thus the price difference deminishes.
  • muller_bfmuller_bf Posts: 3
    Hi Folks,

    It's been a long time since I've visited this forum.
    My wifes ML320 (1999) is due for its Service B in
    2 weeks. Since I do 98% of the maintenance and repairs
    on my BMW (540i), I figure I might as well do the same
    for the ML, and just send it in for the dealer stamp in the
    service book and some misc stuff.

    Any suggestions as to what are the easiest and most cost
    effective items to do-it-yourself in Service B?

    What did you folks pay for Service B (pre 2000 ML's, of course).

    John Feng
  • peter81peter81 Posts: 3
    I've never used one. Comments please. I'm getting ready to buy a 01 320 and want to pay less than sticker less 1500 rebate.
  • hussungdchussungdc Posts: 5
    Without any negotiating, my local dealer (Louisville, KY) stated that they are selling 2001 ML's at invoice right now. He briefly mentioned that it was an MB incentive...but who knows.

    I still think I am going to order a 2002...better styling, automatic temp controls, head protection system, etc.
  • tomjavatomjava Posts: 136
    MB engine is always noisy, however the noise isn't going to penetrate the cabin due to its superior noise insulator. Unlike BMW, HONDA, or Lexus is known for its quietness. I don't mind it at all as long I can't hear inside the cabin.
  • Tuscaloosa News on the how a MBUSI employee can drive a new ML..."The price for a team-member lease, which includes insurance coverage for all family drivers and passengers, standard maintenance, luxury tax and license tags, is in the range of $400 a month."

    here is the article:

  • tariktarik Posts: 344
    Pretty good deal, but standard procedure at BMW here in Spartanburg, SC and also at all car manufacturers in Germany. Usually, cost for the lease payment adds up to roughly one percent of the car's (truck's) MSRP. Official goal is to increase the employee's affinity to their workplace (the pride issue), what they're really after is the number of cars on the road as well as exceeding budgeted production figures.

    On a side note, my local (Greenville, SC) MB dealer showed me stats saying that more new MBs have been registered here last year than have been Bimmers, even counting factory subsidized leases - not bad...

  • richjnjrichjnj Posts: 5
    Just purchased new 01 ML320 at the end of June and paid under invoice for Black, M1, Bose CD Changer, heated seats and glass roof. Purchased the car in NJ, I don't know how the Northeast compares to the rest of the country, but, thought I could be of some help to those on the fence about 01' or 02' models. Keep in mind that the dealer is a good friend and my family has been good customers for many years. I'm not sure whether all similar vehicles are being sold for the same price.
  • neil99neil99 Posts: 11
    Thanks for the body shop info. Motorwerks is out of my way. The one that nikorr mentioned is closer to my home. I will give them a call.

    Thanks for the great help.
  • Oil Fill -- My dealer (Hartford, CT, USA) insists that our '01 ML320 came with full synthetic. Is this correct? This will affect when I change the oil.

    Engine noise -- noelbong, I know exactly what you are talking about, it sounds like a light diesel compression note, particularly from outside the vehicle. I too was a bit surprised by the sound; nevertheless, a great drivetrain and wonderful vehicle. Enjoy!
  • kenyeekenyee Posts: 738
    I wish I knew for sure. I emailed w/ my VIN and they said it came with a synth blend. I asked my dealer to set up an appointment for an oil change and they said my 2001 came w/ synth oil and it's a waste of time/money if I don't follow FSS schedules.
  • thanks. They gave me the same response, even with my Castrol Syntec sitting in the cargo compartment at their disposal. I hope someone can let us know for sure (although the service tech manager seemed quite insistent that all 2000 and later ML's in the States came with full synthetic).
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  • scott902scott902 Posts: 46

    Yeah the dealer charged me...$25.00, new batteries and resynch fee
  • biker5biker5 Posts: 199
  • rjlimrjlim Posts: 30
    Just got back from the dealer to pick my wife's ML for a change oil, and test drove the C Coupe. Its a fun toy to drive, not so small, not so big and very responsive with 6 speed and heated seats for $27000.
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  • Looking at the photos linked below it seems that the 2002 model will have a single CD unit included in the MCS system.

    Is this true or am I overlooking something?

  • noelbongnoelbong Posts: 41
    thanks guys, for sharing your thoughts on my question on ML engine sound. To answer your questions:
    - I feed my ML gas with octane rating 93 ever since I took delivery. I will try switch brand this time.
    - I like tomjava's and whatwasthat's attitude about as long as he doesn't hear the engine sound from inside he is happy.
    - kenyee, my ML has alway sounded like a diesel truck ever since. I only have 4820 mile on it so far. Do you think I should bring it back to MB for a new 02? :) (then again the 02 will probably sound like the same).
    - I saw a late model E-class emitting a cloud of blue exhaust gas on the highway today. Since the M-class shares the same engine with the E-class, I am worried.
    - To be frank, I am beginning to lose confidence on MB after owning one and after reading problems on this forum. It is just me, guys, don't mean to get you down.

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