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Mercedes-Benz M-class (ML320, ML350, ML500 and ML55) 2005 and earlier



  • kenyeekenyee Posts: 738
    Sounds like you should be ok in NYC. Go to your dealer. Ask for an ML430 demo or ML500 now. You will have your answer after driving/playing for an hour or two. Have fun :-)
    Let us know how you like it.
  • but I visited 4 - yes *4* dealers - trying to test drive a ML500 - nothing doing. All were already sold.

    As for 430's - none that they had on hand. Two of the 4 said they could get one; the other two said 'sorry - wait for a 500'.

  • I asked Navtech about the coverage, since our new house is in a new development and they do not have the street on the CD yet (It was a dirt road in March). They suggested I try out to get an idea of their coverage. I suggest you do the same. Of course, what's on the CD ultimately lies with the agreement between Navtech, MB and Alpine, but it should be a good start. The Navtech database is updated quarterly, and the MB one for MCS is updated annually.
  • I was told that 03 model will host a battery of 48v, that is, double the capacity of current model. And, the starter will function as alternator, and the alternator will function, as, of course, alternator. But I am not so sure.

    The trend is clear. Technology advancement made its way to the car near your garage, like it or not.

    One more thing. I wonder why there are so many slightly used AMG cars sitting in the dealer. Oh, dealer add " market adjustment " of close to $30,000 to a 2002 s55 amg over msrp. Isn't that wonderful?
  • Have pads on the way. Has any one changed the rears? Do the rear brakes have a drum parking brake or do they have some type of hydraulic/mechanical system like VW? Have ordered Rotex pads although they do not have a brake sensor. Have changed the sensor on front pads from one pad to another (don't ask) and it wasn't any problem. Hoping to move the sensor from the old pads to the new. I thought that the front pad sensor were a bit conservative anyway so I don't mind wearing the rear sensors down a bit.
  • While cleaning the seats in my ML, I noticed 2 scratches. one about an inch long and 1/4 inch wide, and one is a slight scratch (the kind you see if you brush it one direction but disappears if you brush it the opposite direction).

    I was wondering if anyone used a leather repair kit before. I would like to hear from anyone who can help. Thanks in advance.
  • kenyeekenyee Posts: 738
    Keep trying. The Nav can be added afterwards if you like it. A user interface thing is almost as personal as whether you like a PC or Mac...some folks love the touch interface, some hate it, etc...
  • Hi everybody , have enyone using power invertor on ML , directli from the battery ? (it is an adapter to make AC outlet from 12 V cig. lighter ) .
    Any help appreciated .
  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
    From my experience and from what I have read and heard, touchscreens aren't particularly durable in the long run. This allegedly had a large part to do with why the Germans haven't jumped on board with that technology, instead opting for more traditional physical controls.
  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
    IIRC, the parking brake is a drum-in-disc type system. IIRC also, new brake pad sensors are something like only US$5 each.
  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
    The MCS unit is made by Alpine, but the radio component module is probably still made by Panasonic. The Bose option adds Bose tuning + specialised components to this headunit. The ML's Navigation system is made by Alpine. The user interface is nearly identical to Alpine's own brand of GPS nav. head units, as well as Acura/Honda's.

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  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
    I highly recommend that you ask your question in the Leather seat maintenance discussion topic here in Town Hall. There are some extremely knowledgable individuals in there. You may want to address your post "traderalex", of example.

    Good luck!

  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
    I use a power inverter to power my notebook computer on the (rare) occasions that I need to use the computer in the car (while it's not moving of course). No problems whatsoever. I have heard that one should not use an AC/DC power inverter too frequently for a notebook computer as it ruins the battery pack. Whether or not this has any truth to it, I don't know. If it is, it probably also has to do with what sort of battery it is. FWIW, my electrical engineer father was very sceptical of this when I asked him about it :-). If anyone else hears/knows otherwise, feel free to let me know.
  • A few questions on the Sport Package: 1)Do the V rated tires really improve performance, and will they wear significantly faster? 2)Is it worth the $3350 3)Will the illuminated running board (MB accessory) be available with this Sport Package (extra cladding at wheel wells...) and if yes, will they look OK? 4)The vehicle will be used primarily by my wife (2 kids/car seats, doggie...) and she is neutral on her opinions on the Sport Package 5)Will the Sport Package hurt resale value? 6)Will MB accessory Mudflaps look good?
    Thank You
  • Marcus,

    welcome to the club - good to see a Brit here!

    It can be done, but it will cost a LOT of £££, and as Ken pointed out, you'll lose the spare. I think that performance might also suffer, as the 270 CDI engine is not tuned to the ML 55 exhaust system.

    I suggest you cheat (because I agree with you that the lone exhaust looks a little silly): The LH side cutout in the bumper must be a MB part - easy to swap. Try if the chrome end tip is also listed (I would think so), and get a friendly technician to custom-make a tube to the right angles etc - it could be fitted to the frame quite easily. And you have your second exhaust!

    Of course it's cheating, but IIRC, the Queen Mary had one of four smokestacks that was actually added for esthetic purposes ;-)

  • It's partially correct..

    Rechargeable batteries, dependent on the chemical composition, can develop 'memories' - where if you don't discharge them fully before recharging them, they won't give you the full capacity on the next discharge.

    This was more the case with NiCD (nickel cadmium) batteries. Most modern notebook computers are not NiCD based, so there's no concern of memory developing.

    As far as an inverter - don't have my ML yet but I have a boat, and I use my notebook on it all the time. Works like a charm - here's a hint though - don't go cheap. Spend at least $50-100 on a decent inverter. Don't buy a $20 special then wonder 'why is my notebook on fire?!'
  • Thanks all for the good Nav info.

    Drew - I've seen the MDX's Alpine system, but never an aftermarket Alpine installation. I hear they're very nice.

    I heard all sorts of complaints on how difficult the ML nav was, but I'm guessing this was pre-Alpine (which was introduced in 2000?).

    Two of my concerns - one, cost: they don't give you all the CDs, just the one for your region, correct? At $135 a CD, that's pretty hefty, isn't it?

    Two - the need for DVD - if MB goes to a DVD based Alpine next year, I'm hoping it'll slap right into my MCS, and I can get the whole damn country on one CD. Should be faster too, since the density of a DVD is much greater than that of a CD-R, thus making it faster to read.

    Too bad I had to juggle a budget to buy this car - could have gotten REAL interesting if I had another 3k to play with and didn't want the extended warranty.
  • I didn't even know there was a leather maintenance forum. Thanks, Drew.
  • kenyeekenyee Posts: 738
    Yes on the CD's per region. It only matters if you travel out of the area much.
    As for one DVD covering everything, we can only hope. The MDX folks have been disappointed about the spotty coverage though. It seems that Navtech supplies the data, then Acura gets to filter it. They REALLY filter it according to the last complaints I read.
    I doubt we'll see a DVD MCS in next year's model. Maybe in the full redesign in 3 years...
  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
    The Sport Package doesn't include any special tires, they're the same as the rest of the M-class line. However, it does come with different style wheels. At this point, you cannot have mudflaps, running boards, side steps, or a brushguard if you order the Sport Package because of incompatibility reasons.
  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
    Thanks..."memory" is not a concern of mine since my notebook has a Lithium Ion battery pack. My inverter is not the cheapest, but it's not the most expensive either. Two A/C outlets, a built-in cooling fan, fuses, and an alarm + automatic shut-off if the vehicle's battery drops below 10 volts. This way you don't end up draining your entire battery to the point that you cannot restart the vehicle.

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  • Go to

    and look around. They offer video conversions on all BMW's (I expect that they all must be alike under the covers). Sure for $1100 it seems expensive but what alternative do we have for a dash mount monitor? Suggest that ML owners interested in the conversion email these folks and let them know that we are the largest population of vehicles with LCD screens just ripe for converson.
  • I dropped them an e-mail - I'm local to these guys, so maybe they can arrange for a demo.

    Actually - I thought this might be a cool way to get myself an Alpine DVD based navigation system.

    Every so often, they sell off on E-bay for $1000 or so. Combined with this - $2k gets me a navigational, dvd and TV system for the car. Not too shabby.
  • I noticed that my headliner (after 1 year) is getting soiled in a few areas, primarly on the B pillars where the front windows roll-down. Anyone know of a good cleaner, I was thinking of a dry foam of some sort. TIA

    Dave L.
  • ml320ml320 Posts: 22
    ML wins Off-road Worldcup.
    Let's see if the pic shows.

  • kenyeekenyee Posts: 738
    How about a bigger pic so we don't have use a magnifying glass? :-)
  • ml320ml320 Posts: 22
    Here we go:


    World Cup Winner Jean Pierre Strugo's ML430


  • USAToday had a good write up on Britax (Child seat maker) and how they are going at it hard in the US market.


    It's in the Thur 9/6 money section if you can still find it on newstands.
  • kenyeekenyee Posts: 738
    Interesting...I've never seen those alloy wheels before...
    Wonder if they'll be lucky enough to get the ML400CDI next year? :-)
  • The Bi-Xenons equipped with the halogen aux lamp are used for both high and low-beam. The halogens are only used when using the 'flash to pass' feature on the steering column. Got that tidbit from the 2002 M-Class brochure. Still have a couple of months until I actually get to find out for myself though :(
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