Which Camry is right for me?
Hi all,
New here but I'm going to get a new Camry right away but I need your help on choosing which model. Basically, it's a work car that I drive 100 miles a day on it. With that being said, It has to be a v4. I love the Se exterior cause of the side skirt. Does the le come with the same side skirts? I don't care about anything else on the se, just the exterior looks. But if I get a v4 on the se, will it be not enough egine for that body? Again, it's not about speed for me but I don't want to feel like the engine is way to weak for the se body. So which one? If I haven't given enough info, please let me know to help with the decision.
thank you
New here but I'm going to get a new Camry right away but I need your help on choosing which model. Basically, it's a work car that I drive 100 miles a day on it. With that being said, It has to be a v4. I love the Se exterior cause of the side skirt. Does the le come with the same side skirts? I don't care about anything else on the se, just the exterior looks. But if I get a v4 on the se, will it be not enough egine for that body? Again, it's not about speed for me but I don't want to feel like the engine is way to weak for the se body. So which one? If I haven't given enough info, please let me know to help with the decision.
thank you
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IMO, the I4 is plenty engine, doesn't matter which trim style. Go drive both if you want.
A V-6 has 6 pistons, which are arranged in two banks of 3 each. They are offset, so if you looked at the engine lined up with the crankshaft, the two banks would form a V, with the crankshaft at the bottom of the V.
In both engines, a complete cycle is 2 crankshaft revolutions or 720 degrees. In an I-4, there is a piston firing every 180 degrees, or 4 fires per 2 crankshaft turns.
In the V-6, there is a piston firing every 120 degrees, or 6 fires per 2 crankshaft turns.
6 cylinder engine costs more to buy.
The 4 cylinder LE is the standard, high-volume Camry.
The LE has lots of creature comforts too -- like power seats, nice CD player, and such.
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I got the JBL stereo and the moonroof package. If you are an audiophile, check out the upgraded stereo. Its it incredible.
As far a build quality. You can ask almost anyone with a new car and they will tell you about a "problem" or two. It is in the mind of the beholder. My car is perfect. There was a TSB available to me, so I had the dealer perform it and now the vehicle performs even better.
I would voice your concerns to the salesperson and see what he or she has to say. Judge whether or not they are being honest and the quality of their answers. Ask what the dealer will do if you experience any problems and get their "responses" in writing.
Others have voiced concerns about the Accord and Altima, so definitely do your research. Do multiple test drives and find a dealer that has a great reputation for excellent customer service. Also, keep in mind most people come to these discussion boards to gripe and complain about their cars, definitely not a representative sample of owners. A larger majority of people don't come to these sites and say "My Camry rocks."
Also, people fill out "fake" Camry evaluations on here and yahoo autos. I can tell because people are describing problems that the dealer can fix under factory warranty or the problem has been fixed in newer builds.
Good luck!!!!
I'm probably going to buy a camry soon and was debating between the 2007 LE and SE. This is my first time buying a new car. Let me know your experiences, good and bad! Thanks for your insight! :confuse:
highway driving? We'll be doing about 90 miles per day on the car, with about 80 of that highway. The highway is pretty much flat in this area.
Thanks...
In the end, I decided to go with the Accord. I test drove it before the Camry and found its handling to be superb. Yes, the ride is going to be firmer and some might even say harsher but I liked it. I like feeling connected to the road and don't mind it so much. The Camry, as nice and tempting as the soft ride was, was just not for me. I honestly would have gone for the SE but the Accord is a better deal for me financially.
2007 or 2008-if you can save about 1K by getting a ’07 instead of a ’08 AND you plan to keep the car longer than 5 years, you should get a ’07.
There are 3 silver Camrys is our neighborhood: A 4 cylinder LE, a 4 cylinder XLE and a V6 LE. The V6 LE also has a sunroof, leather interior, and is sharper looking than the 4 cylinder XLE.
The owners of the V6 Camry LE say they LOVE the power and fuel economy of their V6 Camry LE and are very glad they got the V6 LE.
The other 2 owners love their 4 cylinder Camrys but are not as enthusiastic as the owners of the V6 Camry LE.
Thanks.
Thanks for your help.
My wife and I prefer the extra space of the Sienna with gas mileage not much less than a Camry with the same engine BUT we also like to take 2 grandchildren (and sometimes their mother and dad) on long trips.
Some friends have a 4 cyl Camry and V8 Ford Explorer. They drive the Camry most of the time because of much better gas mileage. Comfort means more to my wife and I, so we would drive the Explorer even though the Explorer gas mileage is atrocious compared to a Sienna. :shades:
To be honest, most of our driving trips are business and we usually want to just get there, get done and get back. For vacations, we usually fly and rent a car. We don't have grandkids yet but I suppose we will one day and we would take them on vacations with us sometimes. Probably then we would drive and take the Sienna because it is roomier than the Camry will be. I'm pretty convinced we'll go ahead and get the Camry XLE with the V6 engine, though it's not 100% until we go ahead and do it.
Best of wishes to you and yours. Thanks again for your comments.
I have a 2007 V6 XLE Camry with 20,000 + miles, and I DO NOT have the transmission "flare" issue. The vehicle was purchased in January 2007 from a dealer in nothern New Jersey. I think that the Camry is a great vehicle. The problems that you read about on these boards are from a small percentage of vehicles. Based on my Camry, I would consider another Toyota in 2010. Depending on the cost of fuel, I might go with a hybrid or the four cylinder Camry.
Go to a Toyota dealer and test drive the vehicle that you want to purchase. You will know immediately if the vehicle has a "flare issue"! ------ And NO, I do not work for Toyota or a Toyota dealer!
Best regards. ------------- Dwayne :shades:
As a potential buyer of a Toyota V6 / 6-speed powertrain (used in 2008 Camry, 2008 Lexus ES, and 2008 Avalon), the $30,000 (loan-financed) question for me is, what percentage of owners of this Toyota powertrain experience the "flare issue"? Probably nobody but Toyota knows for sure. The range of forum opinions by Toyota V6 owners is pretty wide.
Some owners, such as yourself, have said those experiencing the flare are a "small percentage" (Does "small" mean 0.01%, 0.1%, 1%, 10%, etc.?) On the other hand, one owner said if someone buys a car with this Toyota powertrain, they will probably experience at least the "small flare" (200rpm). How does he know that?
Another concern is, if I buy a car with a powertrain that has the flare (whatever the chance of that is), what is the flare's severity? The range of forum opinions on that has also been wide. Of the owners who experience the flare, some have said it's only a brief tach needle jump and mild engine rev (noticeable only by looking at the tach). But at least one owner said the flare is accompanied by an engine jerking or hesitation. That's a concern. And that's leaving aside the question of what kind of powertrain damage is caused by a (mild or severe) flare problem.
Then there's Toyota's response. So far, it seems the flare issue hasn't been resolved. One owner said Toyota should label the problem by its real name, a transmission "slip," not a "flare" which sounds less critical. Will Toyota resolve the problem within another year? Don't know.
I wish I knew what the true odds were of getting stuck with a car that has the flare. If a car has the flare, it might damage the powertrain, even if Toyota eventually resolves the problem. I'm comparing Camry V6 to competitors, even thinking of the Camry 4cyl which doesn't seem to have any problems as significant as the V6 flare. I wonder whether the 4cyl provides enough power.
The fact of the matter is that you cannot just go and test drive a Camry and know if it has the problem?
The car has to be sitting for a long enough period of time maybe 8 hours to notice the flare and it might not happen everytime you start off.
Most test drives are not done from a cold start seeing someone usally drives up the car for you before your test drive.
I think you are trying to sell cars?
Merry Christmas!
I think your point is that we should hear from those who have actually experienced the flare on whether a test drive will show the problem - makes sense to me.
I also don't understand your answer to the point that a test drive would not determine if the car has the flare problem. If you test drive a car and it does not flare does not mean it does not have the problem. My car only flared once in the morning and once in the evening. Point was the car has to come off a cold start and the flare cannot usually be repeated until the next cold start.
Most test drives don't take place with a cold start.
Anyhow, Merry Christmas!
I am not pro Toyota! The only reasons why I own a Toyota Camry today are as follows: 1.) The Honda Accord seating quality was killing my body.---- and ---- 2.) I could not get an "in stock" Buick or Chevrolet Impala, (in New Jersey), with the required color & trim package. The Toyota Camry was third on the list of desired vehicles. I wanted to purchase an American brand name in place of my Honda Accord. Yes, ---- I earn my living in sales, but I do not sell Toyotas.
From what I have been reading about this problem, the "flare" is just part of the issue. Some owners are commenting about the "shift pattern" when accelerating onto a highway, or quick acceleration / braking issues in passing situations.
SUGGESTION:
If you truly want to purchase a new Camry. Go to a Toyota dealer and discuss your concerns about the "flare issue" with the sales person at the dealership. Tell him / her that you will purchase the vehicle if it does not have the problem! --Select a vehicle that you want to purchase from their new vehicle holding lot. Ask for a set of dealer plates, and take that vehicle for a ride! If is does not have the problem, you have just bought yourself a new vehicle. When I purchased my Camry, I took a test ride on the vehicle that I was purchasing. YES, it was a cold start of the vehicle!
Best regards. ----- Dwayne :shades:
I did not say anywhere that a test drive would (or would not) determine if the car has the flare problem. Read it again.
Pat
I can assure you they have a problem. Atleast my 07 v-6 Camry does.
I said it before Buyer Beware!!!
Merry Christmas!!! Chuck
Yes, I do sell Toyotas and also drive what I sell. I've owned three Camrys and would buy another one in a heartbeat, even without test driving to check for the so called "flare". This flare is nothing but the transmission shifting quickly into the next gear.
Mackabee
On page 9 of the factory service manual, it states the instructions for water pump removal.
Replacing the water pump on the Toyota 3.5L V6 require engine and transaxle removal!
For those of us who plan to keep this vehicle for as long as possible (200k+), it's very likely that we'll have to replace the water pump at least once. With this design, replacing the water pump is likely to be very, very expensive, possibly at least twice the amount it costs to replace the timing belt and water pump on a Honda 3.5L V6.
This is something that potential buyers of the Toyota 3.5L V6 need to keep in mind.
Thank you for sharing this information with regards to the water pump on the 3.5 V6 Toyota engine. Because of issues like this, I always purchase a 6 year / 100,000 miles / top of the line manufacturers extended warranty when I purchase a new vehicle. I easily put on 20,000 miles a year, so in five years, (or sooner), I will have 100,000 miles. During that period of time & mileage, I expect to replace a water pump, alternator, and / or an A/C compressor. I guess the water pump repair will pay for the total cost of the extended warranty! I will not own this vehicle past 100,000 miles. Vehicles without an extended warranty are just too expensive to repair!
When I owned the 2003 Honda Accord, the vehicle was great untill it hit 50,000 miles. Between 50,000 miles and 80,000 + miles, the Honda extended warranty put $3,300.00 worth of repairs into the vehicle. The A/C compressor was $1,000.00 dollars.
Best regards & Happy Holidays! ------------ Dwayne :shades:
I will greatly appreciate your advice/coments on helping me decide to buy my next car after I had an accident.
I have to decide on these two cars as my 02 Camry was declared a total loss.
Camry 03 has 36600 miles - Desert Sand
Camry 05 has 60000 miles - Sky Blue Pearl
Both the cars have these options and are certified from toyota (3mo/3000 mile bumber-bumber, 7yr/100000 mile power train).
Certified Vehicle
Power Windows
Power Door Locks
Tilt Wheel
Remote Trunk Release
Cruise Control
Tachometer
AM/FM Stereo
Cassette Player
CD Changer
Tinted Glass
Additional Power Outlet(s)
Air Conditioning
Climate Control - Auto
Heated Front Seats
Heated Seats
Power Driver Seat
Power Passenger Seat
Arm Rest - Rear
Center Arm Rest
Leather Seats
Map Pockets
5 Passenger Seating
Roof - Power Moon
Power Mirrors
Mirrors-w Turn Signals
Body Side Molding
Fog Lights
Compass
Console
Sunglass Holders
Cup Holders
Trip Odometer -Dual
Reading Lights
Clock
Air Bag - Driver
Air Bag - Passenger
Air Bags - Head
Air Bags - Side
Rear Shoulder Harness
Traction Control
Power Steering
Power Brakes
Front Disc Brakes
Anti-Lock Brakes
Front Wheel Drive
Rear Disc Brakes
Intermittent Wipers
Rear Defrost
Homelink
Window Locks
I am in a delimma on the color vs power train warranty for 03 and 05. I do not drive much to work and expect to put around 5000 miles per year. Would buying the 03 be a good decision ?
Thanks in advance for your response.
Rajeev.
p.s. Give us the rest of the info and we'll help ypu...thx
caaz
thx for the alert
Caaz
The 03 and 05 camry Out the door price offer is $16500. The 03 is Certified and 05 can also be certified per the dealer. Also both are V6 Engines.
Should I be concerned that 03 Camry is already 5 years old and with certification I get only another 2 years PT warranty compared to 05 for which I will get another 4 years PT warranty.
Will appreciate any further comments.
Thanks,
Rajeev.
For '03: if the original owner bought the '03 in mid 2002, the car is almost 6 years old, so, you only have warranty for a little over a year on the powertrain.
Personally, I rather get a brand new BASE Camry for a little more $$.
Good Luck
Caaz
Thanks for the reply. The 03 has heated leather seats, moon roof, Front/Side and Rear airbags, Traction Control (Vehicle Skid Control) etc among the features I listed above. Also it is a V6 XLE Engine.
Do you think with all these features the price is too much.
Thanks,
Rajeev.
If I had to choose between the two used cars you've mentioned, I'd go with the '05, if the features are the same as well as the condition of the cars.
I have to agree. 16.5K OTD = 15K +TTL. There's a small room to negotiate (1 to 1.5K lower at most) but not that much. There's almost no way you can get this for 11K unless it used to have major damages. 11K is for a base LE.