Lexus ES 350 Transmission Issues
I've had my car approximately one year now and drive it regularly. It has about $26K miles, but just recently ( two months) I've noticed some performance issues. Regardless if it was in the morning and the engine was a little cold or in the middle of day, the acceleration would slip. It was difficult to replicate the issue, but it was consistent enough to notice. On several occasions, I would redline or come very close to redline. It was as if the car was in neutral, but then immediately adjust. I took the car back to Lexus twice, but they were unable to identify the problem. Finally, just last week it happened again and Lexus finally decided to replace the transmission. They said they were unable to identify the problem, but would replace it anyway. In lieu of my problems, I was given $1000 in service credits.
Overall, I really like my car, but now I'm somewhat skeptical that I might have more issues down the road. I am leasing, so I guess that helps in some degree. Thought I'd share this information.
Fred
Overall, I really like my car, but now I'm somewhat skeptical that I might have more issues down the road. I am leasing, so I guess that helps in some degree. Thought I'd share this information.
Fred
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Has anyone else hada this problem.
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Its just happens when your trans changes major gears as it changes energy output. Most often it occurs when you apply sudden move from over 2500 rpm to 3,000 rpm, and then right away, the rpm suddently move down by a few hundred clicks - this is the slip you described. There is another one between 5,000 to 6,000 rpm. You see this has to happen because the large horsepower (272 hp) and the way the trans is designed. I have them on mine and its completely natural ! It happens everytime when I apply really fast Accell increase from 2500 rpm to 3000 rpm. Also, after this slip, the engine sound changes from a desel to a race car like sound. These things that you experience is all due to major Torque, Horsepower changes with respect to changes to gearshift. Oh ya, it happens again at the upper rpm near the redline and another one somewhere between 5,000 and 6,000 rpm.
The one at redline is due to high fuel input as hp decrease after hp max. at 6,200 rpm. Don't do this to your car - its damanging for your engine because when hp decreases over 6,200 rpm alot of energy is transfered to the engine and not released to the environment as hp and torque. When you have large energy transfer to engine > engine wears.
Also, Lexus agreed to give you a trans changes just to satisfy you b/c they can't have a bunch of unsatisfied buyers or sales will decrease dramatically.
After warming up another few minutes, it ran fine and drove to FL without problems. (There are no Lexus dealers anywhere close to Troy, IL.) I have an appointment with my dealer on Monday, and am curious what their reaction will be. We can never duplicate those temps here.
Sadly, my disappoinment with this car continues. (I had serious rattles that took three calls to get fixed, I have the engine dieseling sounds at cold for which there is no field fix, I have had transmission flare previously, and the downshifting is horrible.) This is the only one of 6 Toyota products I have had that I would call disappointing. I'll update after the service call. I consider this car to be extremely unsafe in the cold.
Second issue I have is the sudden acceleration even at low speeds. I have an automatic transmission.
Third isse is that the motor idles very high .... sounds like a diesel to me. Not the quite Lexus that I am remember.
I'm sorry to hear, but you should not give up on this matter.
Can't they dubblicate the problem when you leave your car over night?
Thank you...
SOP, Standard Operating Procedure, beginning with the adoption of DBW, Drive By Wire, back early in the century. DBW, in turn, was adopted as a "fix" for a design flaw incorporated in the U140E/F during its development for the new RX300 introduced in '98.
1. it is widely known that the initial 2007 es350 model had transmission problems and Lexus did some remodification. If you ever visit any lexus forum...clublexus forum, etc they will mention to stay away from certain manuf built dates with es350--2007. I beleive it was an isolated situation and has been corrected for some time now. I owned es330-2004 for 6 yrs no trans issue....just purchased 2010-es350 and it is truly a well built car and superior driving veh......I test drove many vehs to compare. Many members on lexus forum have purchased 2010 after owning 2007 so Lexus is doing something right.
2. It is unfortunate you have had such bad experience with your Lexus but to make such a blanket statement for no one to purchaseLexus.. is kind of foolish because inspite of few issues it is still a very well sold vehicle. I will never purchase a Ford....never owned one either but not going to tell everyone they shouldn't purchase Ford product because of my feelings.
I would suggest to cut your losses and sell your Lexus and buy something else so you can sleep at nite. good luck
That is not a good answer for a car that presented itself as being reliable and of consistent high quality. If there was a problem, they should have recalled the problematic cars and replaced the transmissions.
Instead we find something similar to the unknown computer problems, or sticky accelerator pedals, or the floor mats, whichever excuse is the current one from toyota where toyota has had a problem since 2002 and used NHTSA and misreporting techniques to avoid close scrutiny.
The similarity is that the problem wasn't fixed the way a reputable company would have done immediately. Telling an unfortunate owner that they are at fault for not having read fan forums to determine the car they were buying has problems isn't a good explanation.
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The first time it was brought in for transmission problems, they said the transmission fluid was low (hmm--its a sealed system) and that the software needed to be reset. I picked it up the next day and drove it home. Took the car out to go to work and 12 miles into my trip the master warning light, along with several other warning lights and a VSC message. The transmission started up with the jerky acceleration and stumbling deceleration. This time they agreed it was faulty and would replace it.
Will keep you posted on the new transmission.
Bring it back to the dealer at least 4 times and have them give you a reciept that you have brought this same issue to their attention without satisfaction. When this is done and you are still having the same transmission paroblem, contacy Kimmel and Silverman PC in Cherry Hill, NJ ...They deal with lemon laws, I used them and filed suit against Toyota for that same problem. My car was not shifting and Lexus insisted that there was nothing wrong. Needless to say I won! Recieved full payment back and now I am diving a E class Mercedes.....I love Lexus however until they fix the kinks, I am taking a break from them..Good Luck!
Thanks. It's a great info. I'll look into it. My car is still at the shop and hope they will send someone out soon and test drive where I live and hope they can duplicate the problem. Just like you, I live 60 seconds from the hill and it has been happenning often but not every time. I even test it when engine is warm and surely the trans. shifted up and down (undecided) too. Sometimes I feel the car wants to take off as well. I brought in twice and they documented exactly what I told them. It's been almost a week I drive the loaner 2009 ES 350 and not happy with the trans. but has not shifted strangly like my new ES ">350. I am anxious but worry they will do nothing.
Will give an update later hope the sooner the better and get more help from this forum. Thanks again.
He had managed to get it to Cerritos Auto square where he had purchased the vehicle. The salesman was skeptical about there being a problem with the brand new car and suggested that it may have been something my dad had done. A bit annoyed my father gave the salesman the keys to go drive the car around.
When the salesman turned the car on and put the car into reverse, it would not budge. It would wiggle around in place, but would not move. he then proceeded to put it into drive, and it would not budge. The transmission was shot, and eventually the salesperson said they'll have the service department check it out when they open tomorrow 1/3/2011.
Don't know if anybody else has been getting early transmissions problem but thought it was important to notify those who are potentially buying this car. Maybe it was just this particular car, but it is something that could have been life threatening if there were heaving traffic. :mad: :mad: :mad:
I do love the Lexus product.
Im at 140,000 miles on my es350 and just started experiencing flare/skip of gear around 2nd gear. (30-40mph mark) during morning start up. I have not been able to find any memo online from LEXUS. Can you please provide some assistance? Either if you have a link or file you can email me? dagqprince@ aol . com
any help will be greatly appreciated.
"..did some welding.."
Even the slightest crack/opening in the exhaust and atmospheric oxygen might reach the sensor after the engine is off but while its still HOT.
For some reason that situation seems to "spoil" the sensor output for 100-200 miles, 3-4 drive cycles.
BMW fixed the clicking noise (HVAVC) on my '08 BMW 328Xi.
I would probably let go of the Lexus. It is worth paying a little more for a way better service at BMW (Bloomington Motorwerks, MN).
Please share if you have any ideas to deal with Lexus' inferior quality.
Thanks,
lmn
I am sorry to hear that your transmission failed at 88k miles. Your dealership needs to explain to you why the transmission failed so early. Warranty coverage is expired and I am not sure what else can be done.
I am just hoping mine last much longer. Good luck.
I am very disappointed that company like Lexus who is known for their “Quality and Reliability” is selling “Lemon” cars to consumer or if they have a transmission problem either they or dealership are not communicating it to us.
Please reply if anyone is having similar problems with ES350. I don't know if there is any kind of Class Action Lawsuit being/been filed against Toyota, but I would definitely want to be a part of it.
How to fix these problems and is this under warranty work as sugguested by my dealer?
Next day car experiencing exact same issue plus the reverse now making noise. Transmission shop looking into issue again.
Any thoughts from mebers of Forum?
Reverse noise caused from loose support bracket was not tightened enough.
Car was always very quite hardly could tell it was running. Even when car had the fluttering noise it shifted fine and was quite.
Now in 'drive' sitting at a light there is a low growl like I'm driving a V8 Mustang, along with pedal and column vibration. Car shifts fine but even while accelerating can still hear the low growl, but no column vibration. Transmission shop says bring back after driving few weeks.
Something not right.
Bad feeling I'm going to have dealer repair and fight transmission shop for reimbursement.
Any advise?