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Availability of the 08 Siennas?



  • hansiennahansienna Posts: 2,312
    I sat in a nice 2008 Sienna XLE Limited yesterday after I had my 06 Sienna Oil and Oil filter changed at the dealership. MSRP $ 41,727 less $ 1585 package discount = bottom line $ 41,142. :shades:
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    The 08s juuuuust came out, wait a month or two, they'll discount them more.

    The local no-haggle dealer didn't have a single Sienna priced over $36k last time I checked. That's after discounts.

    One conspiracy theory may be that the demand for high-end models is high, so they are the first to disappear from the lots. Some people want theirs with everything.
  • svofan2svofan2 Posts: 442
    ...XLE LIMITED AWD with EVP #1,beautiful...sticker is $39,504.00...local dealer offered at $36,950..I wonder if it is a fair price. I am dying to get out of my EXPI 05 lease and I still have 5 payments plus $250 termination fee...I was given 3 yera lease 12k,$8000 down $482 monthly including tax and gap insurance....any one care to opine?...please do...
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    $2500 off a brand new van when 2008 prices already dropped from 2007 levels sounds good. Yes.
  • svofan2svofan2 Posts: 442
    Thanks ateixeira, i was hoping for your about the lease deal?...what is your thought on this part of the deal?...I found that the invoice (dealer's) on the LIMITED mentioned is about $4000 below is a that case they are going about $1500 above invoice. Should I wait a couple of months when they are more abundant, or should I bite now?...thanks...
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Sorry, I know nothing at all about leasing, so you're asking the wrong guy.
  • svofan2svofan2 Posts: 442
    ...hey!.. I am a nubbie too..did you buy and what..thanks..
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Yeah, I was a cash buyer. $25.2k for a 2007 Sienna, plus TTL.

    I bought a Forester in 1998 and it was a great car, maintenance only, no repairs. For 9 years I had no car payment and could save up.

    Still no car payment now. :shades:
  • svofan2svofan2 Posts: 442
    ...good math by me...and very good for you I used to buy and change evry 3 years,some men like to have different women in their lives,me?...I love then I discover that leasing was not as bad as I thought and here I am going into my 2nd lease. I must confess that the next is oing to be buy since I will be 66 and
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Trading in cars is cheaper than trading wives! ;)
  • svofan2svofan2 Posts: 442
    ...after 40 year of marriage...she OWNS me...
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Just hope she doesn't want to trade you in... :D
  • svofan2svofan2 Posts: 442
    ...the thought probably crossed he mind many..many times
  • I bought Sienna 08 limited at 9/10/07. Excluding AWD, GPS price 35,400 + frees. Seem good deal.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Sounds like it. With NAV you'd pay over $36, add AWD and you're well above what you paid.

  • I think that is a great price. Any differences between the 2007 and 08 models? (The Limited version). Thanks, - M.S.

    P.S. Hi Juice, I am over here :)
  • svofan2svofan2 Posts: 442
    ...I am fairly new to the TOYOTA expirience since a few years ago there never negotiated much on their prices. I think the price was good but my problem is that I still have 5 payments left on my current 05 EXPI lease..maybe by December i will eat 2payments and hopefully get the same or better pricing on the Sienna 08 AWD Limited with evr 1
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Great! You found us! :)

    I would have put another link but the Haterade over there is unbearable at times. Heaven forbid should someone offer advice to those who ask for it, right? :D

    Check out the November Car & Driver issue. They actually picked the Sienna 2nd, Ody 1st, but it beat everyone else, and won most of the objective measures.

    It was quickest and most efficient, most cargo behind 1st, 2nd, 3rd rows, most space in front row, and most cases of beer in all configurations, my #1 criteria. ;)

    Lateral G's actually tied the Ody, and while they rated the Ody higher in handling (8 to 7) the Sienna made it up in ride (8 to 7).

    Get this, though, the Sienna did 3mpg better, and that's against an Ody with VCM. 0-60 was substantially quicker, too, well over a second sooner.

    Check out that article, it's a good read. For me it only reinforced my decision to get a Sienna.
  • caravan2caravan2 Posts: 198
    You're correct in comparison. Both are great... you won't regret picking any of these two..

    Ody is always, maybe most of times, is ranked higher than Siena...I don't why?

    I'm not sure what feature carries more weight that makes ODY ranking higher than Sienna... As the note mentioned both have some features better than the other.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Here's my full rant on the subject:

    ateixeira, "2008 Minivans" #377, 27 Sep 2007 6:49 pm

    Basically I think C&D likes to see themselves as the enthusiasts' magazine, so their criteria are different than the average minivan shopper's. To them, handling is more important that how many boxes (cases of beer) will fit inside.

    They even RAVED about the Ody's 8th seat, which is lame (sorry!) compared to the 8 seat Sienna.

    Would you rather sit in this baby seat:


    Or the adult-sized seat in the 8 passenger Sienna (note the width):


    Not the best photo, but trust me, the Sienna wins here hands down.

    Also, they tested a loaded Ody vs. a Sienna LE. Then they complained that the Sienna's 3rd row was hard to fold, while for the price they could have gotten a POWER folding 3rd row. :mad:
  • caravan2caravan2 Posts: 198
    Just to be fair about 8th seat comparisons... ODY have arm rests... and arm rest is great for long drives....
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Yeah, but the Sienna C&D tested had captain's chairs, too.

    Toyota offers either, or. Captain's, or 8 adult-sized seats (but for CE and LE only). You can fold down the 8th seat and have a table between the kids, better than an armrest IMO.

    Honda offers the 7-8 configuration on EX and up, I think. LX doesn't have it.
  • Check out the November Car & Driver issue.

    Could you post a link please, I could not find it.

    Yes, I agree, that other forum swings between being hilarious and obnoxious, especially because of the FS cheerleaders. Anyways, I am currently bent on a Sienna,
    and the reason (may be it is stupid) is that it offers the HID headlights and dynamic laser cruise. I did test drive the Sienna and the Ody, and I think their performance, visibility, features, space, gas mileage etc. are very similar. In different test, one is marginally better than the other. Thanks for the welcome, - MS.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Those are options on the XLE Limited, things you'd only expect to see on a Lexus. Very nice.

    I have the article in print, haven't seen it on-line yet. Browse one next time you visit Barnes & Noble, I think they get them first. CVS didn't have it last time I checked.
  • gunga64gunga64 Posts: 271
    Add 599.00 for dealer fee $22,600.00 plue tax tag title.

    You guys should be able to get a deal like that.
  • Does anyone know the difference (if any) between the 2006 Sienna and the 2007? I'm interested in the LE model. I'd love a 2008 but can't afford it.
    Any information would be very very helpful!

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587

    The 2006 had the 3MZ V6 engine, 3.3l.

    The 2007s got the 2GR V6, 3.5l, more power and about 10% more torque as well. I waited for the engine because I knew it didn't use any more fuel, so free powah!

    The 2007s also got real tire-pressure monitors, while the 06 and earlier simply used the ABS to detect differences in rotational speeds.

    The interiors looks pretty much the same. On the Limited models, 2007 actually dropped a few standard features, like the laser cruise control and HIDs, they became options.

    Packages shifted around, too. The LE package 3, what I got, now had 2 power sliding doors, previously it only had one.

    To me, waiting for the more powerful engine and the 2nd power door were definitely worth it. But it depends on what options you really want.

    The bad news is that resale is strong so values do not fall much. Back in May a new 2007 LE pkg 2 was $23,500, and a used 2006 with 30k miles was $21,000.

    $1500 off for 30k miles? May as well buy new. :sick:
  • bearcrkrdbearcrkrd Posts: 167
    The 2006 had the 3MZ V6 engine, 3.3l.

    The 2007s got the 2GR V6, 3.5l, more power and about 10% more torque as well. I waited for the engine because I knew it didn't use any more fuel, so free powah!

    I bought 2 weeks before the 2007's came out. I didn't know they were going to have a different enjine. The salesman said to me; 'you know this has the 3.3 engine, not the 3.5, right?'.
    I replied that it was the Camry and Avalon that had the 3.5, not the Sienna.
    Thanks for reminding me..... :blush:
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    No biggie, if it makes you feel better the 3.3l has been a solid, reliable work horse and was already plenty adequate in terms of power.

    So far so good for the 3.5l as well.

    Toyota had sludge issues with the 3.0l 1MZ, but our engines are unaffected.
  • Ok,I'm looking for a Sienna LE with atleast one power sliding door and overhead info system. With this being beginning Nov 2007, would I be foolish to buy a used 2007 with low milage (under 9K)? The dealer is asking 24,990 (I haven't talked with him so that's the price on the window). It has an after market DVD player (I could care less about this honestly), says it's got the LE Pkg #2.

    If this sounds like a good deal to you (the 2007 over a new 2008) what would you offer??? I need all the help I can get!
    (PS: I'm in the chicagoland area)

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