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Hyundai Veracruz
"The fuel ratings advertised come from Natural Resources Canada. The fuel consumption of your own vehicle may vary from its published ratings, depending on factors such as your driving style and behaviour, vehicle acceleration and driving speed, temperature, weather, traffic, etc. Furthermore, a vehicle will usually consume more fuel during the first 10,000km because the vehicle is 'breaking-in'.
If you do not see any improvement after 10,000km, you might want to bring this issue to your dealership at your next oil change, and they can put your vehicle on the computer and it will determine if there is a vehicle fault."
10000KM equals about 6000 miles....I owned 5 hondas before this vehicle and I got the advertised MPG from the first fill up. I think something smells fishy.
The vehicle runs great but I'm spending atleast 20% more on fuel than I'm supposed to. This amount could have gone towards the payment of a more expensive car IMO. I have also contacted Natural Resources Canada, if anybody is interested I'll post what they responded to my complaint.
Others have posted on here that they have been getting around 20 MPG in the city and 24 on the highway, and they have about 3000 miles or so on theirs. I have 400 on mine now and hopefully by the time it hits 1000 things should even out. If not, then when I get the oil changed by the dealer, I'm going to ask them about this.
Please do keep me update if you hear anything.
Hyundai decided to release GLS with 5 seat with 1700$ less
then GLS with 7 seats.
I contacted Hyundai Canada, and apparently, the cars are
at port of Vancouver. My guess is, they would hit the
local dealership in few weeks at the most.
In the states, it could be sooner I suppose, however
I don't know for sure.
In B.C Canada, it looks like GLS with 5 seats will be
available at dealership pretty shortly.
However, I came back to the city and was stopping at almost every other light and of course the MPG went down. Seems like the car is good when it gets aired out on the highway, but suffers when it's stopping at every other traffic light.
I just hope that after the engine gets broken in, I'll be seeing 20 MPG for everything.
But now with this new Veracruz I'm completely confused! My personal take on this w/o seeing it is that it looks beautiful. Of course, this could change depending on the price. I love the teak colored leather interior. The styling is very rich---I just hope the price is right. I saw somewhere that it might be at dealerships as early as December--anyone know any differently. Anyone else waivering? I thought I was going to love the CRV but I didn't and now when I see them on the road I'm glad I didn't go that route!
My friend just bought a Santa Fe and she loves it!
Thanks for any input!
What in particular didn't you like about the CRV, just out of curiosity?
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I wouldn't hold out for "break in" improvement - I now have 6700 miles on mine and have seen no increase in MPG since I bought it. Unfortunately if you are truley a city driver, get used to the upper teens - these vehicle were built to cruise at moderate speeds - not stop and go traffic. I beleive I could get over 30 mpg if I was willing to drive 60 - 62 mph on the highway. I'm just not willing to do that.
Hope this helps - these are true numbers with real driving. ( and I'm not the guy that everyone on the road passes either)
Unfortunatley, I am a mostly city driver and I guess I will just have to live with the upper teens as my MPG. I do drive on the highway every so often and occasionally do long trips. I did fill up again recently and took it out on the higyway for a short while and got up to about 21 MPG.
I'll keep the egg under foot thing in mind. I actually started doing that today and haven't gotten honked at yet. I traded in my Mazda Protege for the Santa Fe, so obviously there is a big difference there. I guess I'll just have to get used to it. I have noticed that post that get the upper 20's are those that drive mostly on the highway or bck roads. Guess it's just one of the disadvantages of living in NYC.
I hear you about the highway speed. I like to go about 70 on the highway and couldn't do less. I hope to take it on a long trip sometime soon and will see what the mileage is then. Feels real good at those high speeds though, nice and smooth
Thanks for the help.
I only test drove the 3.3L , but if your 2.7L has adequate power, maybe that is the way to go.
16.1 miles/gallon - my odometer is at 2350 miles
Where the heck are you getting $1.95 a gallon?!?! So Cal is now $2.50
It is getting better from 14 miles/gallon and 350 miles later.Is that your total miles for a full tank?
Joe in Texarkana
Maybe because NAV is not offered in the US???????????
Full Test: 2007 Hyundai Santa Fe
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Hyundai Santa Fe
tidester, host
On the other hand, I'd like to think that the "conventional realtime" AWD on this vehicle should always react to traction loss, regardless of speed.
"The Borg Warner system that can provide up to ninety-nine percent torque to the front wheels, but when called upon automatically sends up to fifty percent of the engines torque to the rear wheels. As long as youre traveling below 22 mph, just press a dash-mounted button and the transfer case will lock at 50:50 for getting out of really slippery situations, a process that incidentally will disengage via a solenoid when eclipsing the 22 mph threshold and then, when dropping down below that point again, automatically reengage.
Just how does do all the Santa Fes electronics work in unison to achieve traction? The cars onboard computer monitors everything from wheel speed to accelerator pedal movement and steering inputs, so that when at least four percent front wheel slip occurs the rear axle engages. All-wheel drive will also engage if the throttle is actuated quickly, causing wheel-spin. It can also anticipate the need for additional traction and engage the AWD system when the driver accelerates the vehicle.
On another note the Santa Fes all-wheel drive system will adjust for steering wheel angle, so that the rear axle disengages during a sharp turn eliminating driveline binding; what happens when the inside wheels are forced around a smaller radius than the outside wheels.
From a safety perspective, the rear axle will also disengage during strong deceleration to maximize the anti-lock effect of the standard ABS brakes."
See here for the complete review by Trevor Hofmann (Aug 06). This is a well written and detailed article. I recommend it. Similar BorgWarner information can be found here at a different site.
My only concern is Hyundai quality and resale. Are they now better in both areas?
Thanks in advance.
Mark
Resale - dramatic improvement
Congrats on your new car - I want one
The quality is vastly improved on the Santa Fe, with the new model. Unfortunately, resale value is not one the its selling points. The Santa Fe is behind its competitors in resale value. I would not expect it to now blow out the competition in resale value with just this redesign. Back to quality, It still has hard plastics all over. It also does not offer what is one of the most popular features in the industry...a navigation system. With comparably equipped models, there is a major price advantage with the Santa Fe, although. So it all come's down to personal preferences: either, a less expensive, well equipped, not-so-good-image, but pretty good value or a well equipped, better resale, but with that a steep price.
Good Luck
Quality wise, I'm very impressed. It's no Lexus (we have a RX350 also) but it comes close in both ride and quite. Given the choice, I prefer driving the Santa Fe. It just has more personality. If you look at the J.D. Powers rankings of the different brands, Hyundai was ranked the number one non-premium brand ( see here). For a more detailed breakdown, see JD Power Brand Rankings .
The ultimate judge of resale value will be the public's perceived quality of a vehicle. I think the Santa Fe should hold up nicely. I have never owned a Hyundai before, and had never even seriously considered one until I researched the quality commitments Hyundai has made. They are chomping at the bit to change their image and it looks like it's working. Their warranty costs are now coming in at almost half of what they budgeted (based on their old models). Their new, highly automated Alabama plant is ranked as 10th best in the country.
Yes, I'm taking a risk by buying a Santa Fe over my next choice vehicle, a Toyota Highlander. But I think it's a very small risk and I'm having too much fun driving it to worry about it
Just saw somebody tonight crawling under his car trying to free up a jammed nut that is holding up his spare (GM car)
He end up waiting for the CAA (AAA) to arrive.
Or, you can try less expensive, very well equipped, so-so resale, excellent value without a steep price in a form of 07 Mitsubishi Outlander. It is already outselling RAV4 and CRV in Japan, has better handling, performance and fuel economy then Santa Fe with the same long warranty.
The exterior looks OK, but the interior doesn't hold a candle to the new Santa Fe. And what's up with that silly looking 3rd row jumpseat :confuse:
I just can't agree with you there. I have driven both of these vehicles extensively . The Outlander's materials are much cheaper than the Santa Fe's. The Outlander is faster....only because it’s lighter. The Santa Fe gives you a feeling of being higher off the road, more like a truck, than the Outlander does. PLUS, the SF rides MUCH better. It's a heavier vehicle. The Outlander was 1st on my list, but it has been bumped too a close second now. Also, here in Houston, Mitsubishi has seemed to drop the ball; the models that are in demand won’t arrive in bulk until mid December. Plus, Hyundai's incentives are better for higher trim levels.
The Outlander is nice, and it includes a navigation system, but the Hyundai is a better built vehicle...for example, in the Outlander flip the rear seats forward and look and feel the plastic attached to the seat. Feel the plastic on the dash and compare it with the Santa Fe.
Sorry for the long post, I was just FLOORED by the Santa Fe.
The interior in both cars received four stars (RAV4 got three). Personally I think they are pretty close in material quality with Santa Fe being slightly more attractive, (except for fake wood) and in the Outlander- more sporty looking. Seat comfort is a different story, IMO better in a Mitsubishi, not that flat and short as in Santa Fe. Some owners reported this on this forum before. But all of this in very subjective and you have to try both, to find one which suits you better.
And price being the same?
Outlander AWD XLS 25.010 (with some owners reporting price paid 23.700 for this trim )
Santa Fe Limited AWD 27.945
-Paddle shifters
-Navigation system
-Xenon headlights
-Keyless entry/ start system
-600 W sound system
With the same safety features, same rear leg room-36.8in(there is more leg room-39.6in and cargo room-39cu.ft in Outlander with two rows of seats trim than in Santa Fe)same towing (both 3500lbs), same warranty you must be confused with all those numbers. JD Power study is just saying how people like the car, it’s not actual repair or service record. Example: Low Mercedes rank because of lack of cup holders or Hummer using too much gas...