Zaino Car Care Experiences

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  • fastdriverfastdriver Member Posts: 2,273
    lapvn-

    Look at the pics in my profile if you want to see what it REALLY looks like with a fresh coat of Z!! The Pics you saw are 9 months with NO Z and SEVERAL detrimental car washes this winter!

    graphicguy-

    IF it ever gets warm here, I will be sure to get out the clay and the Z. To the unknowing/unaware, my car looks great. To me- knowing what it SHOULD look like, it stinks right now. Will e-mail you soon. Very busy time for me right now.

    fastdriver
  • lapvnlapvn Member Posts: 455
    I saw the additional pics. Don't ever get rid of that baby. You have made me think of this shiny Fire Engine red cherokee I saw today. I said wow would that thing look great if it had some Z. Very impressive.

    I especially love the pic with you holding the camera. This weekend the Ody was so shiny that my son was playing in front of it like as if it was a mirror. Stupid dad that I am I said no you'll get finger prints. After that split second I didn't bother, he was having fun, and he is the reason why we got the Ody. Heck, I'll just do some Z next weekend.

    If I keep this up during the summer, I may not have to worry about old man winter this year.

    Again job well done.
  • lapvnlapvn Member Posts: 455
    Just wanted to find out how many of us that use Zaino use it on their every day car?

    I for one am only using it on our Ody which we normally only use during the weekend. On some odd occasions where we need to run errands in the evening of the week we bring the rug rat with us.

    Do you find on those using it on a everyday car that you need to apply more than once a month?

    Just curious.
  • ficklefickle Member Posts: 98
    I use my car everyday and wash it every Saturday with the wash (can never really remember those numbers!) followed by the z6. Perhaps once a month or two, I'll do a coat of z2 or z5 after the wash and before the z6. Having the Zaino on the "everyday" car makes the wash so easy. I would NEVER wax my car every weekend because it's so labor intensive. If I were using normal wax, I MIGHT put it on twice a year? because of the work involved. I can usually do my normal Saturday routine in about 40 minutes, 30 if I'm really in a hurry. If anything, you should be Zainoing your everyday car and waxing your car that sits in the garage.
  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,405
    Of course I use the Z on my "everyday cars". Why would you not want to protect your everyday car? It's the one that's out there in the real world and needs the protection. A weekend car can stay looking good with just a wash. Zaino will last a lot longer than a month. Since you've clayed the Acura, give it some Z.
  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,405
    here goes. What would happen if Z2 alone, no Z1 or ZFX, was applied to a washed/clean car? I know it wouldn't "bond" to the clearcoat without the Z1 or ZFX, but would it give the normal deep, wet look for awhile? How long? Reason for asking is a friend just bought a new Mustang Convert, and I wanted to give him an idea of how Zaino would look on his car, and I don't want to use my remaining drops of ZFX for a full treatment. Was planning on doing half the trunk or part of a fender. Yeah, I know I should give him the full treatment with the ZFX/Z2, but that ain't gonna happen.
  • lapvnlapvn Member Posts: 455
    Is it possible for your friend to wait when you are doing your car with ZFX and then you can do a part of his car just to show him. This way you wouldn't have to use any ZFX on him specifically, basically you would be dangling a taste of it in front of him. The rest of it you would use normally.

    I know it isn't the answer you are looking for, but like you said, you don't want to use any or all of it on him. Stuff is too expensive.

    My brother has the same car as I do, in fact we both pick up ours the same day from the same dealer, and I won't waiste any of my Z on him. One is that he is not as fanatic about car care as I am, so to do it once to show him would truly be a waiste.
  • ski1577ski1577 Member Posts: 30
    mine is the same way, he has a nice black montero, loaded, but doesnt take care of it. its always been that way, from me and my regal to him and his scout(our first cars, his was much better, him being the youngest.)i did a quicky z on his of 2 and 5 last november and it still looks great. he just bought some wash and z2/zfx, and i see him catching the z bug. my girlfriend just bought a new loaded accord, and i z'd it just because she was planning on taking it to a drive thru-shes learning. if i could only get her to build some sweat equity in the thing. she sees the difference in mine and others and is now able to recognize those cars that are ill taken care of...its a start. i noticed you said you used z5 after z2...it should be the other way around. ive gone thru bottles of each and you should always end on the 2.
  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,145
    I know that Sal suggests to end with Z2, but it's really not neccessary. All Zaino is interchangeable.

    I usually alternate when applying Zaino. Sometimes I wash and apply Z5 and then the next time I wash, I apply Z2. I don't have much in the way of swirls, so sometimes I won't use Z5 for a month....just wash and some Z6.
    2024 Kia EV6 GT-Line AWD Long Range
  • squidd99squidd99 Member Posts: 288
    All zaino products are not interchangable. Z2 and Z5 (not to mention the others) are different.

    They are, however, chemically compatible, meaning that you will not cause trouble by mixing them in the bottle or on the car.

    Sal suggests that you finish up with a layer of Z2 on top of everything else because it has higher optical properties than Z5, but it's not necessary. Z5 is just as compatible with Z6 and Z7 as Z2 -- it's only his suggestion that you finish with Z2, based on the premise that you want the end result to be as highly reflective as possible.
  • atoewsatoews Member Posts: 637
    On my car, there is no comparison between the Z2 and Z5. My car looks infinitely better when the last coats are Z2.

    When I apply Z5, I am practically starting over in getting the shine back on my car.

    Given the choice between the two, on a new car particularly, I'd choose Z2 over Z5 any day.
  • mae2mae2 Member Posts: 6
  • mae2mae2 Member Posts: 6
    Just purchased a 03 accord and am interested in the Zaino products. I'v read the posts but can not seem to find what and how to use them and who to order them from and prices. I'm a senior lady and this is my first new car.
     Thanks ahead for your help.
  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,405
    Also, there is an order form you can print and send with your check. At this time you can't order online, gotta be by mail, and no credit cards.
  • U0225U0225 Member Posts: 1
    Anyone use this? Can I use it with Zaino?

    I'm using it now on my car by itself and it lasts about 6 months and looks like I wax my car weekly.
    Does the Zaino shine last that long?
  • lapvnlapvn Member Posts: 455
    Mae2, if you are in NJ you can't order from ZainoBros directly, they will send you to a guy named Carl. He is very informative as well, same pricing and charges as Zaino direct. If I remember right he is a friend of Al, that is why they allowed him to sell the stuff. WELCOME To the Family. FYI, ZA meetings are every other Thursday :)

    More on my brother. He's got money coming out of ears and all he talks about is how dirty his car is, but he still has not brought it to a car wash or even thought of giving it one. I would have gone crazy already. You should see his wheels, they look like they were 1 year old, I felt like picking up a brush to clean it.

    My Zaino bug for this weekend. I was so irked that the Ody was left out of the garage this entire SOAKING weekend because we decided to do tons of house work. I am already planning to leave work early some time this week just so I can Z the car and end with Z2. I too think the Z2 gives it a better shine than the Z5. I thought I was set for several months just doing the wash and Z6. Anyway, I was just so bothered that the car was out in the rain for 3 days and felt sorry for the darn thing. WOW you think I got the Z bug or what.
  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,405
    With the number of coats of Z already applied, all that happened was you got a free car wash. Zaino laughs at rain. You're still fully protected and have a great shine.
  • lapvnlapvn Member Posts: 455
    Don't get me wrong. I believe in this stuff and I know the Ody was protected. It was just that anal side of me that said "MUST WASH CAR" :)
  • pghtiburonpghtiburon Member Posts: 22
    Two weeks after receiving my first Zaino order, I finally got around to Z'ing my 2001 Pastel Yellow Hyundai Tiburon.

    After a good Dawn wash, and an application of Meguiars #83 (for the swirls), I applied 3 coats of ZFX'd Z5 and two days later, two coats of ZFX'd Z2. The car has a beautiful soft glow to it.

    I definitely prefer the Zaino shine to what I got from Meguiars' products. Meguiars shine was a bit deeper I think, and tended to change the color a bit, but Zaino has a much more glassy wet look...and it's remarkable how smooth the surface is now.

    And thanks to all the Zaino posts I read here, I was able to use it sparingly...I got 5 coats from about 2 ounces of polish.

    One of the things that didn't quite work for me, however, was the Glass Polish. It didn't seem to make much of a difference, but to be fair, my glass was in pretty descent shape to begin with. I also put a coat of Z2 on the glass, but that didn't really seem to make much of a difference either.

    Also, I wasn't able to do much about the swirls on my car. The Meguiars #83 helped a little bit...and the Z5 seemed to soften them a bit, but there are still swirls on my finish. I guess the only solution now would be a rotary buffer.

    But overall, I'm very pleased with Zaino...I look forward to applying more coats of Z2.
  • ski1577ski1577 Member Posts: 30
    and a bottle of z6. but left all my other z stuff. (they also took an old bottle of mequiars gold class-saved me the trouble of throwing it away)-who would steal car care products when there is a power drill right next to it?-maybe even zaino is big among crooks. ill probably have more luck finding the sob by just looking out for the shiniest beater(beaterz.com) riding around than trying local pawn shops(that is if they can even read the instructions)
  • lapvnlapvn Member Posts: 455
    I am sorry to hear about that. It always sucks when others have no respect for others properties. That just sucks. Whether they took a rake of your power drill, it just sucks. Look, you got me all pissed off too.
  • tempustempus Member Posts: 7
    Just bought a new BMW 330i (well, my wife bought it...whatever), and I'm thinking the Zaino route would be a good option for keeping it looking nice. However, I live in Virginia where we have water restrictions that won't let me wash my car at home. What would be the next best alternative? Should I just take some Dawn and a bucket to the local self-serve car-wash? Do I have to then immediately clay and Z it there, or could I wash it, drive it home, clay it and Z it?

    Any advice much appreciated.
  • lapvnlapvn Member Posts: 455
    If I may, I think you should do everything at the do it yourself place. It really wouldn't make any sense for you to wash the car, come home and have more debri on it, then clay it, then go back and wash it. Even though you may only live 1 or 2 miles away, debri will still be attaching themselves to the car.

    I say you do everything at the do it yourself place:
    Wash the car with dawn, if someone is waiting just pull up because it will be a while to clay the car. Then go back in to wash the car after you clay, then pull in somewhere in their driveway to do all of your polishing. This way you drive off in a nice shiny car and have nothing to do but admire your work when you get home.

    This at least is my novice opinion, if the Zaino gods will forgive me for speaking out. :)
  • bretfrazbretfraz Member Posts: 2,021
    I bucket washed at the DIY joints for many years without a problem. I usually just washed and vacuumed there then drove home for the rest of the tasks but its your call. Any light debris that gets on your car on the drive home can be removed with a little Z6.

    If you want an alternative to the coin op joints do a search for "quick and easy wash". Its a unique product that allows you to wash your car with one bucket of water. I haven't used it but those who have say it works well.
  • atoewsatoews Member Posts: 637
    I always wash at a do-it-yourself and then drive home to complete the process in my garage. I have even been known to drive the car with drying Z on it, particularly in below 70 degree weather when it takes a long time to dry!!

    There is a caveat, though. In my desert environment, I need to make sure that there is absolutely no wind. That gravelly sand soil is a bear.
  • tempustempus Member Posts: 7
    Thanks for all the advice. I still have to order my Z, so it'll be a bit before I have to figure out my logistics.
  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,145
    Just make sure you don't use the "brush wand" at the "do-it-yourself" place. They are murder on your finish.

    I've used the spray places. I usually go to them when they aren't very busy like early morning. Fill your bucket with Z7 and water. Spray down your car. Wash it with the Z7/water bucket. Then dry it off. Then you can clay, rewash and apply some ZFX/Z2 (since it's new).

    If you drive it home to do the ZFX/Z2, then bret's idea of wiping it down with Z6 first is a good one.

    lapvn....you're now a veteran and have been awarded "Zainoite" status.
    2024 Kia EV6 GT-Line AWD Long Range
  • lapvnlapvn Member Posts: 455
    Graphicguy, thank you. Thank you.

    I know Fastdriver and I are dieing to do some REAL Z'ing. So far the past 3 weekends have been soaked weekends, and before that, maybe 1 day was dry, but not necessarily hot. Fastdriver don't look now, but no hope in sight for this weekend and the next.

    Maybe I should have bought a boat instead.
  • tempustempus Member Posts: 7
    Ok, just so I'm clear:

    1) If I wash the car with Dawn or Z7, what am I using to actually wash the car? Sponge? Towel?

    2) After I wash it, I clay it using a Z7/water mixture in a spray bottle as a lubricant.

    3) After claying, I rewash? Or just rinse it off?

    4) What's the best method for applying the ZFX/Z2 mixture? Is the #314 Custom Polish applicator worth getting?

    I know I use 100% Made in the USA cotton bathtowels for drying and ZFX/Z2 application removal, just not quite sure of the previous steps. Thanks again everyone for the advice. This is the first car I've owned where I actually cared about the long-term paint condition :)
  • lapvnlapvn Member Posts: 455
    When you receive your order, you will receive a couple of the applicators that they sell. In my first order they gave me two, and I also ordered 1 just to make sure. I keep these specifically just for Zaino. Someone posted here that after 3 uses they threw theirs out, I think mine are still in good shape and will probably last me another 10 applications. After I use them, I wash them right away.

    I bought some other no name brand applicators to use for my Lexol leather cleaner/conditioner, and they just aren't the same. It's good enough for the leather, but I wouldn't use it to apply Zaino, IMHO only.

    As for washing the car, I also bought the wash mit from Zaino. Have no comparison for this one from store bought brand, but II was happy. When I dawned the car, I did not use the wash mit, I use one of those car sponges, I didn't want to mix the dawn up with the Z7, that was just me being anal.

    After you clay, you should do a Z7 wash.

    Someone really went crazy, but it was a very good suggestion. He said to use 2 mits, one for the upper body area, and one for the lower body area. Also you would wash the lower body area last or have a new bucket of soapy water.
  • lapvnlapvn Member Posts: 455
    After I finish applying my ZFX + (Z2 or Z5) mixture, I wash the little bottles right away with dawn. I do this about two times, then I stick a paper towels and use my little pinky to clean right at the neck of the bottle, and to clean the other areas and the bottom of the bottle, I insert a stiff straight piece inside to clean it really well. I use an old steel BBQ kabob stick. My bottles come out looking like new.
  • lapvnlapvn Member Posts: 455
    I can see Graphicguy, altoews, fastdriver, dad16, robr, tmart, bret and a host of others having tears as I answer your question. All of them going, "he has grown so fast, where has the time gone. Our boy is learning." :)
  • ski1577ski1577 Member Posts: 30
    first of all, since you have a new ride, i wouldnt use a sponge, you are trying to not add swirls. the purpose of the cotton, one, is that the fiber itself wont scratch, but two, it lifts dirt particles away from the surface, i dont think a sponge has those properties. i use the 2 bucket method, one for suds the other to rinse the rag(keeps from reapplying most of the dirt you so gingerly removed and dirt particles are swirl makers), so get them in the rinse water. i, also use separate terries for the top and bottom or more if the terry is getting too soiled. these tricks have seemed to help me and my daily driver.
  • ficklefickle Member Posts: 98
    Lapvn,
    I want to ask you a question about leather vs. cloth seats. I'm thinking that the next car I get, I want leather. The cloth seats I have now are covered with seat protectors so my nephews dirty shoes don't get my tan interior dirty. (It kills me when they step on the "hump" in the back since I don't have anything protecting it.) Anyway, back to my question. If I get leather, will I end up having to cover them anyway or can you keep it clean with the Lexol. (I would clean and condition every week since I vacuum the interior every week now anyway.)I hate seeing cracks and dirt on leather seats! :( Yuck!
  • lapvnlapvn Member Posts: 455
    I'm flattered you're asking me, thank you. Actually was in the same boat as you just 3 months ago, never had a car with leather and also wondered how it fared with a childs car seat and the caring of it. Good to know that all questions were answered positively.

    I use Lexol and at first I wasn't too happy with it, but as I applied it more I could see how good the product was. But just to make sure I know what I am talking about I will try the Zaino brand and also Eagle One leather conditioner.

    And yes I also hate the cracks and dry look of other leather seats I have seen. Lexol so far is doing pretty good, and it is easy to get your hands on.

    I think the fact that you vacuum every week is very good. I don't think you would need to apply the conditioner every week, I would plan on doing it every month, especially during the hot summer months. Directions are to do it every 3 - 4 months.

    I would probably only cover the area near a childs car seats during the summer months. I know my kid complains, "daddy hot hot". And believe me he wasn't talking about my roundish figure. At least to me, kind of silly to cover up your leather seats to protect them, then why bother getting leather seats if you are just going to hide the beauty of it. IMHO only.

    Other forum of NON Z products has a lot more on leather products used for store bought. Bretfraz and others knows more on this than I do.

    These are just my 2 cents on it.
  • ficklefickle Member Posts: 98
    That's right...why get leather seats if you're going to cover them up. It's a waste of money, in my opinion. I just wanted to know if you'd noticed any "dirty-ing" of the leather, even with cleaning, but I guess you haven't really had leather seats long enough (years)to really tell.

    Any other Zainoers with leather seats who can give me some insight? (I ask here in this forum because I figure, if you Z, you take care of your car pretty well. I know I'm out there every Saturday cleaning my car....)
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    In my 98 Accord I have tan leather. It gets dirty. I notice it mainly on the steering wheel, center armrest, and the passenger headrest (I drive with my hand on it). Note that the latter two are vinyl. The seating sufaces generally stay clean in the front.

    I use a Prince Lion Heart rubber mat under one carseat and nothing under the booster seat. Still I have found smushed raisans and milk stains on the leather which clean up very easily. I have yet to encounter anything I have not been able to remove.

    Personally I use leather cleaner and conditioner 2-3 per year. I don't recall the one that I have but it list "Eagle Ottawa" on the bottle - they make leather for Honda. It works for me.
  • lapvnlapvn Member Posts: 455
    I wanted to find out more of what the dealers sell or recommend to thier customers as far as leather care products is concerned. I called a Acura, Mercedes Benz, and also a Jaguar dealerships. I made sure that all dealerships were owned by different families.

    Acura - They sell and recommened Lexol
    Mercedes - The sell their own but it is made by Meguiars
    Jaguar - Said they sell their own product. Couldn't tell me if it was one of their own formula's or one that they just slap the Jaguar name on it.

    Is the Zaino leather care products the same as the cleaning products that "a little goes a long way". I ask this because it only comes in 8 oz size.
  • pblevinepblevine Member Posts: 858
    Actually, most car leather does not need much care. I've used both Z9 (Cleaner) and Z10 (Leather In A Bottle - conditioner) on my '98 Honda Accord EX V6 Coupe's leather for a few years now, and the results are very good. I haven't really compared these products to others, but I'm happy with the results. I once had a difficult spill which the Z9 Cleaner could not handle. A little Fantastic did the job and then I treated the spot with Z10. Z9 goes a long way, and a single bottle lasts me about a year. The Z10 Conditioner is great, keeps the leather soft, and smells good too. Dry seats will require a lot of Z10 which can be applied by hand or via a soft cloth.

    I've sort of given up on the Zaino Glass Polish. Instead, I now use Sprayway on interior windows. 'Much better than Windex. The trouble with the slightly abrasive Zaino Glass Polish is that it requires a lot of rubbing to remove. Unless you are trying to remove those micro-scratches, Sprayway will do just as good a job. I have used the Zaino Glass Polish on my exterior windshield to reduce/remove some of those nasty tiny micro-scratches. It requires some effort, but the results were good. I now apply Z2 to my exterior windshield glass and wash it with Sprayway. This combination seems to keep my glass clean including a great reduction in those little scratches you only see when driving directly into sunlight.
  • atoewsatoews Member Posts: 637
    I have sheepskin seat covers on the front seats of my 2002 Lexus ES300. I swap them once every six months, and at that time I use Zaino Leather In A Bottle. I also use Leather In A Bottle on my back seats, but do not have sheepskin covers.

    The back headrests, the parts of the leather with greatest sun exposure, already feel dryer to me, and it seems the seat covers have really helped.

    The Z seems to work great, and it sure restores the "leather smell" but it sure does not compare to covering with sheepskin.

    Regarding those of you who have kids - scuff marks are murder on leather. There is no way to get dark scuff marks off of light leather. I know - a friend scuffed my driver door the first week I owned my car - and the scuff mark is still there.
  • lapvnlapvn Member Posts: 455
    What can I use to make sure the little ones don't get burned from the seats. I really don't feel like dragging a comforter around in the car and cover the seats up as the car sits and bake under the sun.
  • daverosedaverose Member Posts: 233
    Where in Virginia are you that still has water restrictions? Where I live in Virginia our rainfall has been seven inches above normal and the ground is almost saturated.

    I use a "recommended" towel (hand size) wrapped around a sponge to wash my vehicles. Be sure you thoroughly rinse your car after "Dawning" it; I've found that Dawn makes Zaino clay temporarily separate and develop bumps and become harder to handle. For your clay lubricant, mix the Z-7 with distilled water to avoid water spots as it evaporates while you move from one end of your car to another.

    Everyone else seems to have covered your other questions.
  • theweissmantheweissman Member Posts: 28
    I've been patiently waiting for a dry >70 degree weekend day so I can Z my silver Sebring convertible. I bought all new Z supplies, including ZFX (new to me), microfiber towels... But so far, no luck, this rainy spring in New Jersey.

    A few weeks back, I used some 3M fine-cut polish in spots on my car to reduce scratches (not too aggressively, and with mixed success). More recently, I noticed the appearances of swirl marks on my hood and trunk (not related to the 3M treatment).

    I also learned, through this forum, that these last couple of years I have not been Z'ing correctly (by not letting the finish cure for 24 hours), so I _know_ I am poised to get the best glow on my car since the day I got it.

    I know that the Z finish is paper-thin. Is it probable that I removed it in the places on my car where I applied the 3M? If so, should I start my Z-day with Z1 and build from there? (I was gonna clay anyway.)

    Or, should I just go straight into 2-3 coats of ZFX/Z5 and then on?

    Steve
  • squidd99squidd99 Member Posts: 288
    It won't hurt. You should use a coat of Z1 once or twice a year anyway, and since you may have not as many coats on the car as you think, you may as well start with Z1, after the clay job.

    Putting on a coat of Z1 to a convertible with a canvas top can't take more than about 10 or 15 minutes, as you will put the Z2 or Z5 right on top of it.

    The incremental time involved is negligable.

    Happy motoring, and yes, the abrasive polish would have removed the zaino. When you have to to that, you should reapply z1/Z2 to that area right away.
  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,405
    use the Z1.
  • lapvnlapvn Member Posts: 455
    Didn't you get the memo, we are skipping summer this year, we are going straight to fall.

    I know what you mean, figures the only sunny days are during the week when we are all at work. I was so disgusted with the dirt on the car, that at least last Friday I was able to give the car a wash, no Z6 :( booo hoooo. Then only to have that terrible down pour all day long Sat. Obviously my wife used that to make fun of me, saying I waisted my day.

    I think we better just plan on doing a pre-winter treatment instead on the cars.
  • lapvnlapvn Member Posts: 455
    Our cars are now exactly 2 months, our car has been washed close to 10 times, he has yet to wash it once. The wheels on our '93 Integra looks cleaner than his car. And you want me to use Zaino on him, what a waiste. As he is my brother, I will help him out if he wants, but I will give him my Turtle wax. It is safe for me to offer him my help, because I know he would prefer just to bring it to a car wash. :)
  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,145
    Regarding the leather seat care....I've found that Zaino leather care, both cleaner and conditioner to be great products. I've had leather in my cars for the last decade. They wear better and resist dirt better than cloth.

    I am a former user of Lexol, which is another good product for leather care. I switched to Zaino for the "authentic" leather smell.

    We are known to have some brutal summer heat in the Ohio valley. I can remember some of my older cars having vinyl seats and they were the worst for transferring heat to one's backside. While warm, I find that today's leather seems less likely to give the "burn" when compared to vinyl. If it's still a concern, there is the above mentioned "sheepskin" covers. I've also seen some that are made of synthetic that seem to do well.

    Best thing to do is to picke up a "car and driver" or "motortrend" and look at the advertisements at the back of those rags for some seat cover alternatives.
    2024 Kia EV6 GT-Line AWD Long Range
  • squidd99squidd99 Member Posts: 288
    I agree with graphicguy about the Zaino leather conditioner. If you get some really dirty leather, (the interior of my convertible is white) a mild mix of water and Dawn will take off the dirt without hurting the leather.

    As for the hot seats, when I had black leather seats, I just kept a cotton hand towel in the car in the summer to put under my legs. I find that the white leather does not get so hot, and although I still have a towel, I haven't used it.

    As far as sheepskin covers go, I'd rather walk.
  • atoewsatoews Member Posts: 637
    I am curious as to why you don't like sheepskin.
    I think it's great, although it probably doesn't look as good as the plain leather does.

    I will say one thing. Installing the covers (or swapping them between passenger and driver seat) has got to be the WORST part of my biannual maintenance scheme (including Zing, vacuuming, cleaning leather, protecting rubber...). What a PAIN!! Modern seats are the problem. My driver's seat has a 10-way seat adjustment capability and side airbags on the seat. The underside of the seat is full of cables, tubes, wires and you name it, all of which interfere with trying to connect the front to the back of the seat covers. For the seat covers to remain clear of the seat airbags, you have to push these elastic hook things down between the seat upholstery and the plastic frame until you feel like you are going to break a finger.

    I could go on and on about the woes of installing these seat covers, but I won't bore you all, and this is a Z website, anyway. Let's just say that installing custom sheepskin covers on these newer luxury cars with seats that do everything is not a very pleasant task.
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