I never did a suburban or Yukon but to do the roof on a minivan I purchased a step ladder from Home Depot and can do the whole roof moving the step ladder to 6 locations. Doesn't take long at all and I find it easier than squatting and reaching down to do the sides of the vehicle.
I have a Yukon, not an XL, and have Zainoed 3 times. For reaching the roof I do the back end by standing on the rear bumper. Front and sides can be reached reasonably by opening the doors and standing in the doorways. Also, standing on the tires really helps.
I use my recycling bin (about 20" tall) to reach the roof of my Ody. The plastic is sturdy enough to stand on. Any device tall enough to reach is just fine including standing in the doorwells and on the tires.
I used to use a 6' step ladder until one day when I was off the ladder and a gust of wind blew it over. I watched it arc down towards my Accord and it just missed!! Whew!! Then it bounced up and dented the lower door panel. OOOOHHHH!!
It wasn't - the wind picked up as I was finishing up. I should have put the ladder away when I was done with it, but no - I had to wait until I was heading back to the basement.
I haven't been able to apply any more Z to my car due to the cold temperatures. And I can't seem to get a normal topic list here at Edmunds. Yes, I know Pat is on the job, but the only "progress" I've seen is much longer topic/search access times. That's due to having to manually page to the end of this topic's posts each time. And I've lost one of my 100% cotton towels. What could possibly be next,.... Well, at least our country is in good shape. After all, we're a democracy with clean fast elections, right?
Thanks for everybody's input, maybe I'll just put a pulley in the garage and pull myself up and have my wife drive the suv in then I'll just do the roof(ha ha). Just an idea. Once again thank you all!!!
It is safe to use Z6 in cold weather. Just make sure you wipe it before it freezes. But I hope you are not that nuts that you would be cleaning your car if it is really, really freezing cold.
It's too cold to Z my acura so i'm doing the next best thing. I took the wheels off the car and took them to the basement for the Z treatment. I do 2 wheels at a time. I find that properly treated wheels are much easier to clean(especially brake dust). I'm on my 4th coat of Z2. I drive my police cruiser during my work week so it allows me to dismantle the acura. It's working out great, except the wife thinks i'm crazy now :-).
Of course you can use the Z-6 in this weather. You knew that. Like joebob6 said- don't let it freeze. Do it in the sun- whenever that comes out! Right now it's snowing in So. CT- no Zaino today! ;-))
trooper12: Same problem. My wife decided I'm nuts when I went out and bought my 100% cotton Fieldcrest towels. "What? For the car..?"
fastdriver: Its snowing here in NYC. And I've got to drive up to Otis, MA this afternoon. We'll see if Z6 on the windshield holds up to snow. I'll take Route 8 through CT.
Anyone submit their screen name to Karen so they can view the M&R topics as before? I did and now I can only see one previous post per topic. I can still see all the posts in a particular topic if I do a TOPIC SEARCH and input "Zaino", for example.
That was one of the advertised features of the fix. ;-)
To catch up, what worked for me when they fixed my ID was to keep in mind that the problem began on 11/20. If you sort the topic list by "last post" (click on that header), it is easy to see what topics have new posts - that you may or may not have missed - since the problem began.
If you want to catch up with a particular topic, just go to it and use the "scroll up 20 responses" choice just under the topic title until you find posts on or before 11/20.
This whole situation has been a huge pain, believe me, I know!
Good luck. Let me know if I can help any further - you know you can always email me!
Pat Community Leader/Maintenance & Repair Conference
I did send Karen a message to add me to the list, but I thought that it was ONLY to fix M&E. Then, when I read pat455's message in the host section and realized that ALL my placemarks would be wiped out, I sent Karen another message and told her to take my name off the list. I didn't want to have to input all my placemarks again with the NEW board coming soon. Depending on what it's like, I may not be inputing anything else in Edmunds- probably much to the delight of many! ;-))
I can still view this topic with IE and post, so there's no problem. With my DSL, things move quickly anyway.
Actually, all my topics came through intact. All I had to do was read back on anything that wasn't the last post, and even then I think only M&R was affected.
For me it was a non-event, and now I can get to this topic with no troubles.
I honestly do not know whether it will just be your M&R placemarks that get wiped, or all of them. Maybe someone else here who had their "participation data" reset and also has placemarks can answer the question?
I know you think differently, but if I were you I'd copy my placemark page, ask for the fix, and then just simply put back any placemarks that I lost.
If you don't do this, you will never be able to see topics numbered above #1979 (I think? I forget the number now) in this conference. And when we again make the effort to move to new software, I don't know whether your problem will transfer or not.
FWIW, this is just my humble opinion. Good luck either way.
Pat Community Leader/Maintenance & Repair Conference
Did you get my email last Friday? I was telling you that you need to email Karen and ask to have your user ID corrected by Well Engaged.
Anyway, if you haven't done that yet it might not be too late. Send your userid to karen@edmunds.com and she'll see if she can get it straightened out.
Feel free to email me if you have any questions.
Pat Community Leader/Maintenance & Repair Conference
Anyone have good advise to give about first time use of Zaino leather cleaner on my husband's 97 Carry interior? He's about to get the holiday gift of both I leather products and the coupon for the manual labor for the job... So any advise would be appreciated. It is garage kept, but is there a certain minimum temperature I need to work in?
How clean does the car need to be to use the Z-6? The outside water faucets are shuts off for the winter and I need to decide if I can use the Z-6 or if I have to go to the car wash (which is still a VERY cold endeavor).
There are a lot of things I like at this point - I'm still feeling my way around as I'm sure everyone else is doing.
I am very hopeful that the WELL Engaged problems many have been dealing with in this conference for the last month have not transferred. I hope everyone can see EVERYTHING once again!
Welcome everyone to the new and improved Town Hall! Our host platform is now Web Crossing. Here's to a successful partnership!
Pat Community Leader/Maintenance & Repair Conference
I've been using the Zaino leather treatments for a year now here in Kansas City. Clean the surfaces with Z9, then just apply the Z10. I took a cue from automophile (with his Lexol) and applied it using my fingers. I really prefer to use it this way...just kind of makes it feel like you're really treating the leather, rubbing it in, etc. plus, you don't seem to waste much this way. After that, I wipe it with a towel. I've applied it in the dead of winter and the heat of summer with no problems.
The Z9 does an excellent job of cleaning. Spray it on and wipe it off. I've removed scuff marks, ink marks, paint from my childs not-quite-dried-when-she-put-it-in-the-car art work. It works nicely. You'll love the smell of the Z10. After a year, people still comment on how my car still smells "new".
Glad that you enjoyed the "primal experience". I will have to try the Z10. Lexol is great, but does not have a pleasant smell like the Z10. Perhaps Z products are a form of Aromatherapy?
Also thanks for your support on the other forum with the troublemaker. It is amazing that he can think that 1000 people are all wrong and "gullible fools" as he stated in a private email, and only HE is smart enough to see the truth!
It is also good to be back, I have been unable to access this forum for a long time. It seems to be working a little better over time - couldn't post earlier.
I currently have a 540i 6spd Montreal Blue and have been using the Zymol car care product. It leaves a very nice luster and very shiney however I am not sold on its application practices and/or protective qualities. It takes a very long time to apply and lots of effort to remove. I have been following the Zaino discussion and decided to try it out on my 99 Expedition. Any advice, tips or tricks to the vinyl and/or polyurethene moldings would be great. jason@viclink.com
Aside: Before posting it often states:"YOU must First Login". I click on Log in...It comes back with "You are already Logged In". Please work on getting these message boards working properly!!
Lynne29 wrote:"How clean does the car need to be to use the Z-6? The outside water faucets are shuts off for the winter and I need to decide if I can use the Z-6 or if I have to go to the car wash (which is still a VERY cold endeavor)."
Depends how much dirt is on the car. Even on a car with a small amount of dirt you will end up using more Z6 than you should and probably 2 to 3 towels rather than one. I went to a self-serve car wash and just sprayed soap on and rinsed the entire vehicle.(I would never use the brush except on the tires) I then drove it to get most of the water off and later applied a Z6 coating. I used up a lot more than I wanted to. There was alot more dirt left on then I expected. The final results were excellent though.
Next time I may try using two spray bottles and 2 cotton towels. One bottle with water-Z7 mixed and the other with plain water. Maybe spray the Z7 mix generously on the surface, wipe with a wet cotton towel(may need to rinse it out and re-wet in the house a few times during the process), spray with water and wipe dry with the other towel. Then, (if I(you)am not frozen), do the Z6 process on top. And Hopefully the car does not get scratched doing it this way.
The following is a cut and paste job showing that I got into the Zaino Discussion board, but it did not have any place to post a message:
#1007 of 1007 placemarks, login issues, posts not posting... by pat HOST Dec 17, 2000 (12:34 pm) ...are all being addressed in New Software! Your Questions Answered...
Click on that link and take a look at the messages in that discussion. All of your questions have been addressed.
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I would NEVER Z6 the car with ANY dust or dirt on it. Even the finest dust is highly abrasive. I would forgo the extra shine for the winter and not take the chance on scratching the finish.
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So I guess I'll get some of the Z stuff for my new TL. Now if I can just remember where I wrote down the name and phone number of the DC rep...
Look for some information on the resolution of these frustrations - for those of us who have been experiencing them - by early next week.
Pat
Community Leader/Maintenance & Repair Conference
I used to use a 6' step ladder until one day when I was off the ladder and a gust of wind blew it over. I watched it arc down towards my Accord and it just missed!! Whew!! Then it bounced up and dented the lower door panel. OOOOHHHH!!
Oh well, you live and learn.
Must have been a heck of a windy day for that to happen.
Do DC Z-fans ever have gatherings in a corporate garage or some other large, protected and heated space, to wash and apply Z stuff together?
A polymer party!
Trust me, I felt like an idiot.
No the first part was meant as a joke. I am sorry if it wasn't viewed that way.
Pat
Community Leader/Maintenance & Repair Conference
Be sure to go to this link: Talk to the Hosts Part Three and read post 24.
Pat
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All: Can I, at least, use Z6 in this cold climate?
Even I am not that crazy.
Of course you can use the Z-6 in this weather. You knew that. Like joebob6 said- don't let it freeze. Do it in the sun- whenever that comes out! Right now it's snowing in So. CT- no Zaino today! ;-))
fastdriver
fastdriver: Its snowing here in NYC. And I've got to drive up to Otis, MA this afternoon. We'll see if Z6 on the windshield holds up to snow. I'll take Route 8 through CT.
How'd the Z-6 stand up?
fastdriver
To catch up, what worked for me when they fixed my ID was to keep in mind that the problem began on 11/20. If you sort the topic list by "last post" (click on that header), it is easy to see what topics have new posts - that you may or may not have missed - since the problem began.
If you want to catch up with a particular topic, just go to it and use the "scroll up 20 responses" choice just under the topic title until you find posts on or before 11/20.
This whole situation has been a huge pain, believe me, I know!
Good luck. Let me know if I can help any further - you know you can always email me!
Pat
Community Leader/Maintenance & Repair Conference
I did send Karen a message to add me to the list, but I thought that it was ONLY to fix M&E. Then, when I read pat455's message in the host section and realized that ALL my placemarks would be wiped out, I sent Karen another message and told her to take my name off the list. I didn't want to have to input all my placemarks again with the NEW board coming soon. Depending on what it's like, I may not be inputing anything else in Edmunds- probably much to the delight of many! ;-))
I can still view this topic with IE and post, so there's no problem. With my DSL, things move quickly anyway.
fastdriver
Actually, all my topics came through intact. All I had to do was read back on anything that wasn't the last post, and even then I think only M&R was affected.
For me it was a non-event, and now I can get to this topic with no troubles.
I know you think differently, but if I were you I'd copy my placemark page, ask for the fix, and then just simply put back any placemarks that I lost.
If you don't do this, you will never be able to see topics numbered above #1979 (I think? I forget the number now) in this conference. And when we again make the effort to move to new software, I don't know whether your problem will transfer or not.
FWIW, this is just my humble opinion. Good luck either way.
Pat
Community Leader/Maintenance & Repair Conference
I concur with Gary; it was a non-event. And to me, that's a good thing.
Pat
Community Leader/Maintenance & Repair Conference
Anyway, if you haven't done that yet it might not be too late. Send your userid to karen@edmunds.com and she'll see if she can get it straightened out.
Feel free to email me if you have any questions.
Pat
Community Leader/Maintenance & Repair Conference
fastdriver
Pat
Community Leader/Maintenance & Repair Conference
There are a lot of things I like at this point - I'm still feeling my way around as I'm sure everyone else is doing.
I am very hopeful that the WELL Engaged problems many have been dealing with in this conference for the last month have not transferred. I hope everyone can see EVERYTHING once again!
Welcome everyone to the new and improved Town Hall! Our host platform is now Web Crossing. Here's to a successful partnership!
Pat
Community Leader/Maintenance & Repair Conference
The Z9 does an excellent job of cleaning. Spray it on and wipe it off. I've removed scuff marks, ink marks, paint from my childs not-quite-dried-when-she-put-it-in-the-car art work. It works nicely. You'll love the smell of the Z10. After a year, people still comment on how my car still smells "new".
Also thanks for your support on the other forum with the troublemaker. It is amazing that he can think that 1000 people are all wrong and "gullible fools" as he stated in a private email, and only HE is smart enough to see the truth!
It is also good to be back, I have been unable to access this forum for a long time. It seems to be working a little better over time - couldn't post earlier.
jason@viclink.com
Please work on getting these message boards working properly!!
Lynne29 wrote:"How clean does the car need to be to use the Z-6? The outside water faucets are shuts off for the winter and I need to decide if I can use the Z-6 or if I have to go to the car wash (which is still a VERY cold endeavor)."
Depends how much dirt is on the car. Even on a car with a small amount of dirt you will end up using more Z6 than you should and probably 2 to 3 towels rather than one. I went to a self-serve car wash and just sprayed soap on and rinsed the entire vehicle.(I would never use the brush except on the tires) I then drove it to get most of the water off and later applied a Z6 coating. I used up a lot more than I wanted to. There was alot more dirt left on then I expected. The final results were excellent though.
Next time I may try using two spray bottles and 2 cotton towels. One bottle with water-Z7 mixed and the other with plain water. Maybe spray the Z7 mix generously on the surface, wipe with a wet cotton towel(may need to rinse it out and re-wet in the house a few times during the process), spray with water and wipe dry with the other towel. Then, (if I(you)am not frozen), do the Z6 process on top. And Hopefully the car does not get scratched doing it this way.
Click on that link and take a look at the messages in that discussion.
All of your questions have been addressed.
Pat/Roving Host
(same ol' pat, btw!)
#1007 of 1007 placemarks, login issues, posts not posting... by pat HOST Dec 17, 2000 (12:34 pm)
...are all being addressed in New Software! Your Questions Answered...
Click on that link and take a look at the messages in that discussion.
All of your questions have been addressed.
Pat/Roving Host
(same ol' pat, btw!)
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