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I don't think torgue steer is exagerated in describing this car, since I drove a couple of HT coupes. And at 37k it's 4k more then msrp on a 328 coupe. The 328 does handle better and despite having less hp (193 vs 236) they give equal straight line fun.
The wins for the C70 are better lines and slightly better seats.
Also the residual was important to me too, that's why I decided to lease and not buy my C70. If I could have bought the CLK320 for a fair price, I certainly would have just because of the Mercedes name and reputation and resale.
And, ECU + exhaust is NOT worth 50hp, have the car dyno'ed and be prepared for some disappointment.
And lastly a M3 is not a 328 with a "factory" upgrade. Different engine. Differet transmission, differnt rear differentiasl, Damn nearly entirely different running gear. Different in every way but the sheet metal. And the stereo.
You still have nothing but a so-so FWD crusier with a mildly upgraded ECU. Not too fast. Not too agile. But comfortable with a decent stereo. (if you opted for the top of the line)
I had an M3 - it was very agile but small and to me it felt very plastic - should have spent more on the trim I think.
Also the C70 needed the suspension upgrade I agree, but due to its larger size it could never be as nimble as an M3. Choices made. Hell one could buy a corvette - but would you?
No one ever stopped me to tell me what a nice car I had with the M3. And I know on long trips I have never enjoyed driving as much as the C70 - including the Autobahn at 140 mph.
Soo.. dream whatever you wanna dream.
The convertible is a fairly good seller. It is also in limited production. I live in Miami and was not able to get any dealer to match this price. Nor was I able to get any leasing specialists to match the cap cost through their dealiers. I am convinced that I got one of the best deals available.
The reason that I am posting this note is to let you know what I'm paying so you can use it as bargainig leverage. If you're in the market for a new C70 convertible, feel free to email me directly: greatdoc@bocanet.com I'd be happy to let you know the details regarding my car. I would post it here, but I'm not sure about the rules governing posting dealer names, etc.
I am NOT a dealer, leasing agent, or have any interest in selling cars. I just spent a buttload of time shopping and would like to help anyone else going through this crazy process. The C70 is a beautiful car. I can't wait to take delivery!
Hope this helps someone...
Adam Rubinstein
Just thought I would let you know it is a fun car to drive and own.
I happened to see someone driving a red conv. with the top down yesterday (before our bizarre thunder storms here in CA), and it looked SHARP! It really is a pretty car!
First I ordered my manual nautic blue ext/silver int, 5spd HT 1999 in mid oct and got it in mid dec.
Paid 38.5 at the time, the only option I got was TRACS.
Dealer said only the glove box and side light was different, but I just read at the TME site that it has a different engine management system, different heads, turbo housing etc.
Does anybody else know what else is different?
Have you heard anything else about 1999 computer upgrades?
At its first service, I did complain about the wind noise which was worse when I would put the window down and back up while driving. I would have to open and close the door to get it to seal right again. They did adjust the door, rubber and said something about the exterior mirrors.
At any rate, it is much quieter now and I can put the window up and down and its just as quiet.
As an aside, I wish I would have deleted the sunroof(if that was possible) because at 6'1" and mostly torso, I can feel my hair brushing the headliner a fair amount of the time.
I do love my car though, very fast, smooth, handles great, no tourque steer, comfortable, unique and beautiful!
1999 C70 HT Coupe
1966 1800s
Hertz (LAX). I was in LA twice this summer and each time I rented the C70, once it was a convertible. I think the conv was an LT as it was a tad slower than the coupe I rented previously. Off the line, both cars are somewhat sluggish until the turbo kicks in, but when it does...WOW! The car has a unique look and everywhere I went people were eyeing it over.
Ditto for Newark airport. I saw a white C70 convertible sitting in space #1 at the Newark airport Hertz earlier this week so you can rent them there as well.
-rdo
russell.ollie@ibm.net
1. Oil-like substance leaking from the underneath of the trunk when the temperature goes above 85 degrees? The substance runs down from the holes and all over the bumper until it solidifies.
2. When the top is being raised, has anyone had the cloth catch on the mechanism arm? It might not happen all the time but enough that you have to manually pull out the fabric because it is caught under the metal?
I need to find as many people as possible who have experienced either of these two problems- especially the screwed-up top. Volvo is aware of this problem and I have been told that many other owners have had this happen.
Thanks-
R. Lynne
thanks
for the year 2001. This is what is gathered at their "spy website".
The S40/V40 range is due to be replaced in 2001 with a car based on the new P1X platform. The current S40/V40 is built at NedCar in Born, the Netherlands, and shares its structure and factory with the Mitsubishi Carisma. The Ford purchase of Volvo is understood to have come too late to change the plans for the next S40/V40.
The next V40 will be called V50 because Volvo will start naming the sedans S and then an even number and the station wagons V and then an odd number.
Here is the website:
http://drive.to/volvospy
Just scroll down to -- Volvo Spy Pictures --
and click on Volvo S40/V40. You might wanna check out all the other future cars there too!
S70/V70 Replaced by S60/V70.
S90/V90 Replaced by S80/V90.
Volvo SUV.
* What they mean by replacing for the S40/V40 is changeing the interior and some other minor things including the name of the V40.
* This is the last year to get the S70(brick model). It will be replaced by the S60. The V70
will be redesigned.
* They have already replaced the S90 with the S80. The V90 will also be redesigned.
* SUV, that might be a while before it comes out.
rrich1 - please email me about your specific problem with the convertible top.
R. Lynne
c702000, "from 0 to 100 mph it's quicker than the Ht "...what? Are you saying your S70 GLT is faster than the S70 T5? This is contrary to all published reports that I've seen as well as my driving experience. I've had the chance to race 2 S70 GLTs while I was driving a S70 T5 and from 0 to about 35 they are even. After that, the T5 outkicks the GLT by far (remember we are talking about 46 extra horses and nearly 40 ft lbs of extra torque if I recall the specs properly.) On the other hand, it is entirely possible for a GLT to beat a T5 for a bit because of the variability in individual setups. The combinations of traction control on or off as well as whether your adaptive transmission is trained for sport shifting vs. economy shifting can make a huge difference in performance.
-rdo
russell.ollie@ibm.net
THe C70 was made to cruise and the S40 to race. I will try the C70 against the rest in a high speed autocross, just for the hell of it, here in Florida. The BMW might handel beter, but the driver can make the difference with the results. ENJOY
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SP
Depending on your definition of a deal, I think the European Delivery program is a great option for the C70 LT with automatic. Under this program the price for you to fly to Europe, take delivery of your car, and then ship it back to the dealer of your choice is $31,150. That's factory invoice. If you add options you pay full MSRP for them but unless you plan on loading up with every option you will still beat the best discount a dealer will give you. For program details and pricing information follow this link:
http://www.volvocars.com/overseas_new/
I bought a S80 T6 under this program earlier this year and saved a bundle while having a blast driving my car around Sweden for a weekend. The only caveats:
-If you decide to drive your car while in Europe you have to buy Euro insurance which is expensive.
-If you opt to take delivery or make drop-off someplace other than Sweden you will pay a delivery charge for the European city of choice.
-You have to order by 12/15 to get the free airfare and first night free hotel.
-If you live on the East Coast, the ship leaves Sweden on Mondays and takes 15 days to get to Port of Elizabeth in New Jersey. If you live on the West Coast I'm told the ship leaves every 2 weeks and takes several weeks to get to the West Coast.
-If you are interested in pursuing this option call you dealer of choice and make an appointment to speak to their overseas delivery representative. DO NOT speak to a regular salesman and they can't match the program prices so they will try to talk you out of it so they can earn a commission.
If I can answer any questions or provide additional information let me know.
Thanks.
-rdo
russell.ollie@ibm.net
Thanks,
-JD
mcskanky, are you looking at the low pressure turbo (190 hp) Volvo or the high pressure turbo version (236hp)? They drive significantly differently. Let us know which one you are considering and we should be able to provide some information.
Thanks.
-rdo
russell.ollie@erols.com
good luck. THe price is attractive to.