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Infiniti G35 Sedan 2006 and earlier
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Have they sold any of these cars outside the west coast? Only those used to seeing lowriding Honda Civics with coffee can tailpipes and four foot tall spoilers could see the beauty in this beast.
I never had a single warranty repair on either of my Infiniti. And that was in about 79,000 miles of driving. Extremely reliable.
On whole, doubt it is worth it. And you'll know by end of 4yr/60K bumper-to-bumper and 6yr/70K powertrain warranty whether you have a problem car. If you do, probably better just to sell off before end of initial warranty period.
"The Service Agreement begins on the date the vehicle is delivered to the first retail buyer or is put into use ("in-service date"), whichever is earlier."
So the 7 yr/100,000 mile EPP coverage started on the day I bought the car (when she had 15 miles on it).
Get a copy of the current Infiniti EPP agreement and read over its fine print very, very carefully. You might also see if you can shop the EPP around, and might be able to buy from a different dealer. Maybe another dealer might sell it for less?
I actually think the car looks like a beast. It looks mean and aggressive, like it's about to bite you.
It actually looks like a 4 door 911 to me (and almost drives like one)...chomp
I think the Altima, G35 and the 350Z are doing a good job of reestablishing Nissan as a "performance first" manufacturer. the GTR could really build on this and provide a car that could hang with the Z06, 911, and M3. Should be a fun year or two for Nissan fans.
ps... cybersax, hope you're enjoying your "CTS"
I have a Dodge Durango (a MUCH less reliable car) and got the extended warranty on it. Had to use it three times since the 3 years expired (still <36K miles, 1999 model) and it's extended warranty only has a $25 deductible.
I didn't buy the extended warranty with my G35 and have no regrets. Of course, your milage may vary...
Scott
Of course, I would think/hope that GM WOULD improve since they are now part owners of Toyota and SHOULD learning SOMETHING from the NUMMI joint venture (with Toyota) plant in Van Nuys, CA. Probably will be the best thing that has happened to GM in quite some time. However, Cadillac still hasn't fared well with Consumer Reports. For that matter, neither has Mercedes Benz...
Scott
Scott
The offer from the Infiniti dealership was ~$1295 from a 3rd party also w/$100 deductible. The Infiniti offer was what you were quoted.
Scott
And if the NUMMI experience has had any ruboff effect on GM, it sure has taken a long time to have any consequence - believe it or not, the partnership is now going on 20 years old.
The Fremont plant was shut by GM after making some of the worst products in the history of the company [and that was saying something in the awful '60s and'70s]; the workforce was UAW, and famous for being some of the most belligerent and militant people in the national union. Since Toyota took over running the plant, quality and productivity are up to worldwide Toyota standards, there hasn't been a work stoppage of consequence, new contracts are negotiated mostly in silence and civility, and there couldn't be a more dramatic demonstration of the importance of smart management to corporate success.
Our family has owned a total of 6 NUMMI-produced cars and trucks since the mid '80s - all have been trouble-free and typically Toyota bullet-proof. If GM in general, and Cadillac in particular, has somehow made any progress in its own plants from this partnership, it is looking pretty subtle to me. They still have so far to go...
I am anxious to know how the car does when you spend the whole day in it.
IMO, you get to a point in a long drive that you dont care about acceleration or handling, you just want to get to your desitination. Specificaly I am wondering if the ride gets harsh and irritating after a long day.
Thanks in advance for your response...
I think that the most impressive fact about NUMMI, in addition to the raw turnabout in both productivity and labor relations, was that the vast majority of the improvements were accomplished with no capital improvements, primarily process/policy changes. At least it is one of the most impressive to me...
You are correct that the benefits of the joint venture are very slow in coming to the rest of the GM family. I was/am hoping that GM's recent improvement in initial quality may be a precursor to long-term reliability. However, if there have been any long-term improvements they, generally, haven't made it into Consumer Reports reliability surveys.
mawg - I think that the G35 does VERY well in long trips. It is one of the most comfortable cars I've driven in (for its size). I'm rather wide in the hips (the legacy of a past life as a weight lifter) and, while I'm generally numb to the location of the seat controls, my hips can get a bit tired after a few hours. If you have narrower hips, then you will find the seats to be VERY comfortable.
As for the highway ride, it isn't quite in the 2001+ Lexus ES300's class, but it is relatively close for a sport sedan with its performance characteristics. I would have expected a harsher ride with more road noise, but is very smooth (non-sport) and quiet. It was so quiet on our last trip that my wife and I were almost whispering (VERY soft voices) to keep from waking our daughter... and this was at 75+mph.
Hope this helps.
Scott
I found the G35 to be quieter once at highway speeds (70ish) than many others. The cruise works really well and since the engine is very powerful, it doesn't have to down shift as often. An A4 (97) which I sold recently had to down shift often when going up an incline the G35 has almost 100hp more.
The G highway ride was better than I thought, but if I just looking for a highway cruiser I probably wouldn't get anything in the sport category. I'd get a mushier Lexus or something like that.
Handling and acceleration does help a lot on the highway, especially when it's a 2 lane and someone is going 15mph Under the limit; or a deer pops out.
Wouldn't want to take the G35 on a road trip in the summer in northern Michigan... would want someplace with lots of curves. Like Vermont, maybe.
Okay, so we've seen the CTS and 3-Series people in here. Any renegade Lincoln LS people hanging about?! Cmon, you hate the G35 too. You know you do. Tell us alllllllll about it.
You obviously must not be paying attention. In just the past 100 posts I found 3 LSers who regularly post here: stanny1, cdnpinhead and myself. There have been others as well, just not as recent. As far as I can tell NONE of us have "dissed" the G35 in any way. Actually we think it is a GREAT car and if Lincoln does not significantly upgrade the LS several of us would purchase the G when our leases/loans mature. So I am bewildered by your post. Can you point us to any post(s) that would have induced such vitriol in you? Or do you simply assume that those of us who truly believe the car he presently owns was the best one for HIM at the time of purchase is automatically against the G35?
I do agree that some posters are WAY too fanatical about one particular manufacturer or model, but to lump us in with those few is insulting. Especially when you offer no proof/examples that we truly belong in that category!
Scott
I think that you will be able to get all options "a la carte" sometime in the future, but probably not until supply loosens up. It appears to still be pretty tight in some areas of the country, although in others there seems to be an abundance of cars.
I would believe what the manufacturer's web site has to say. Edmunds.com doesn't always price things correctly, they appear to require that you know what you can/cannot order. For example, Edmunds.com will let you order the premium package AND the sound system upgrade (the premium package includes the sound system upgrade).
Scott
The G35 is a great car, and will probably be provided with more options in the future that will make it even more attractive to me -- manual & a more luxurious interior (Stan wants to to go the other way -- toward lower weight).
Point being, you've got a great car already. It'll probably get better. Those of us who bought the LS for its performance/handling are dialed in and waiting. I don't think most of us are that faithful to the Lincoln badge, given that the '00 manual was the first one Lincoln produced in 50 years.
G35, better LS, Audi A6 with proven reliability, who knows? Each of us (TBD willing) will buy something next. . .eventually. The G35's right in there, at least for me.
gotcha, keyrow.
No matter what car you speak of: No auto-levelling Xenon headlights and power leather heated sport seats => it's obviously not a luxosport sedan!
Pat
Sedans Host
Also, got the oil changed at Sewell in Dallas last week prior to the trip. They have moved into a really nice new building. Even have a guy who brings you coffee and muffins when you pull into the service bay. They just reinforced my decision to buy from them with their stellar service. Quick, painless and very professional.
"Nissan is recalling 161,000 1997 Infiniti I30, Q45 and Nissan Maxima sedans to check for an electrical problem that could start a fire under the hood, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration."
Ouch! Let's start a pool on when Nissan will start recalling the G35. I say September.
I guess that's the risk you take when you buy from the automaker that's dead last in product quality and reliability.
Thanks for pointing out the recalls, I'm sure the I30, Maxima, and Q45 owners will appreciate it... Oh, this isn't their board. Hmmm, well, maybe you should go over there to post.
Don't you have anything better to do than try to bait people here in the G35 forums? Or are you SO desperate to justify your CTS purchase, when you could have had a G35, that it makes you feel better to try to pick arguments here? Or has another G35 blown your car off the road...
Scott
There really isn't any reason for to keep answering questions here that are not being asked. Let's move on to something that hasn't been beaten into the ground yet.
Pat
Sedans Host
Hey, you never told us what kind of car you drive!
Faenor/Dane4
I think both of these cars caters to different group of buyers. One who has luxury as first priority would buy an I35, on the other hand the G35 will appeal to people see performance/sportiness as priority.
I think the Infiniti exec. summed it up best.
"I35 is a Luxury /sport sedan, where as the G35 is a Sport /Luxury sedan" anyway it's not the exact quote but the message is correct.
I'm hearing rumor that Infiniti will discontinue the I35 after 2003. ?
So that is also something to think about.
Tony
And you are correct, I never have told you what I drive.
Got to sample the active safety aspects a few more times than I would have liked (with success thank goodness). Let's just say that the high speed lane change (aka the Swedish Moose avoidance test) at 80+, while scary was controllable. (It wasn't a Moose but someone who change lanes without looking).
We were in upper lower Michigan (and yes verozahl there are interesting roads without Fudgies in Michigan around Traverse Bay if you know where to go) Also, let's say that the G35 makes getting around those RV's on a 2 lane road possible where you might think twice in another car (at least the cars I have owned).
Gas mileage is always a topic on this board and I got from 22.3 to 25.8 mpg. Yes the high number was all interstate on cruise at 70. When you get you foot into it, the mileage goes down as mostly local driving usually gets me around 20.
Faenor/Dane4
1. A simple item like a power window switch going out could be around $500.
2. A major item like a nav system breaking could be thousands.
3. The warranty extends the roadside assistance, which I believe ends after four years.
4. If you get rid of the car sooner, you get value back (dealers will prorate the difference and if you sell on your own it will be valuable to the new owner).
As long as you can negotiate the price down to about $1200 I think the extended warranties are good, especially on today's technical cars where one little thing can be expensive. Again, this is only if you plan to keep the car a while.
To say only unknowledgable people buy them is simply not true.
Also, it's not like insurance on rental cars. I agree, with rental cars most (not all) people are covered anyway so the rental insurance is unecessary. But if you are out of warranty on a car you have nothing if something breaks. There is a difference.
Scott
Saturn is number 1, Infiniti number 2, Lexus number 3.
Interesting that Mercedes was not among the top 20 this time.
http://www.infinitinews.com/infiniti/news/products/reljanel2002079142353.shtml
Feel free to link to any material on the web, though -- as long as the host site has no contrary TOU.
Thanks!
Edit: Now that I have deleted four more of those identical messages (for a total of 5 in five different discussions), let me point out that spamming in that manner is also a bad idea. Please send me an email if you have any questions.
Pat
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