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In addition, the price will be reduced by $4500 when I deliver my 1990 Acura Legend on 7/24.
My hats off and admiration to those who got much better out the door prices. Not including my cash for clunkers, my out-the-door price is $15,400. Works for me. :confuse:
I see other people are paying a lot less than the number I got from dealers around my area but I'm also seeing that around here, southern CT, the prices are much higher as well as the dealer fees.
for example the this is what I have gotten from a dealer
- Invoice Price of 17020 for ELantra 2009 SE PZEV
Bluetooth Hands-Free Phone System $292
Carpeted Floor Mats $76
Mud Guards $68
Carpet Cargo $64
- Ads Fees $250 ( which I'll try to have them removed)
- Destination fee 650 ( which I'll try to have them lowered)
Add all that and it will be 18420
Deduct 2000 Cash Back
Deduct 4500 CARS program
Total $11190
no including Tax and Plates.
What do you guys think? :confuse:
Edit: I wanted to add that there are not many SE around the area, let alone Hyundai dealers.
$18,090
When I purchased my vehicle yesterday, the dealer didn't say anything about this promo and I forgot to ask so I'm still going to haggle to get this.
The promo mentions: "For each model where a Rebate and Gasoline Offer applies, in lieu of the Gasoline Offer, customer can increase the rebate offered by adding $1000 to the rebate amount for the vehicle".
I don't know if the promo means an additional $1000 rebate can be received in addition to the exisiting $2000 rebate.
Click link:
Hyundai Assurance Gas Lock
http://www.hyundaiusa.com/financing/specialoffers/gaslock/offers.aspx
It's clear that if you take the $1.49 gas offer, it is in lieu of $1000 of rebates. You don't get the full rebate AND $1.49 a gallon gas. Also, it notes that the maximum number of gallons for the Elantra under this offer is 430. So gas would have to average close to $5.00 a gallon over the next year (compared to about $2.50 today) for you to make out better financially with the gas offer vs. the full rebate.
You can try to negotiate the advertising fees, but some dealers don't haggle on those. I don't think you'll have much luck negotiating on the destination charge--that is a direct cost to the dealer. You would have better luck negotiating on the full price of the car. Just ask the dealer what their best price is before any rebates or the CARS program, and before tax and plates (watch out though for high "documentation fees" that some dealers use to pad their profits). The dealer may give some on their holdback or there may be some direct manufacturer-to-dealer incentives. Also, dealers will often give a lot on accessories like mats and mud guards. Do you really think those pieces of plastic (mud guards) cost $68?
Since neither dealer I was at yesterday mentioned this additional "gaslock" rebate, I'll be interested to know if anyone has gotten this rebate yet.
This seems like a perfect storm of rebates ($3000 for elantra) along with the Cash for Clunkers.
However, it seems like the dealer I purchased from may be trying to keep this gaslock rebate for themself.
Not sure though as I haven't taken delivery or given a deposit yet. I'll probably get laughed at, but I'm going to ask for the additional $1000 gas rebate tomorrow before paying the deposit.
Maybe the dealer didn't bother to mention the gas deal because he knows it's not as good a deal as just taking the full $2000 rebate. Or because you asked for the $2000 rebate (?), so the gas deal would not be applicable.
I see the prices at Fizmall are really great but I don't think I could drive all the way there but I"ll try other Hyundai dealers around the CT and NY area. Now I changed my mind and I'm looking for a Touring. We go camping and I think Touring will work better. Now my search is even harder because there are not many Tourings around.
thanks
They typically have internet pricing below invoice (before any rebates), there is no advertising charge. The price they quote includes destination charge (which as backy said is a cost to the dealer with no mark up). As of a couple months ago their doc fee is $249.
While rebates were different when we bought in Feb. '07, the Sonata we bought from them listed at $22,080. We were out the door (no trade-in) for $18,189 including 6% CT sales tax, all fees
(state & dealer) and registration. Towne is a very high volume dealer and doesn't "play games."
thanks for the tip.
I wonder what they'd do if someone moves across the country, and goes to the dealership for service? "Sorry, you didn't buy your car here--go someplace else." :confuse:
...now I wonder how the finance guy's face will contort when I pull out my Visa card and tell him to put the car on the card (Free money for a month 'til the bill comes due not to mention the 2 percent cash back from the credit card company on the transaction. Whadduh country!!!).
Joe
Try calling Brad Benson & give an out-the-door pirce/bid with all the specs you want. Might be worth the travel.
Also try checking the Hyundai service - if you cannot get good service there, don't bother buying a Hyundai......
Any lawyers out there who can shed some light on this for us??? Might be some fine print somewhere I'm not aware of.
That said, I'm glad to hear others think like me. Free miles, cash back rebates etc. etc. For those who USE these credit cards the right way, whadduh deal!!! And think of the $20 you pocketed in interest on that $11k for a month while it sat in YOUR account 'til the bill came due.
Like I said, will be interesting to see the finance mgr's face..."Put it on the card...pah-leeez." :surprise:
Any thoughts? Thank you.
Mid-Atlantic area for the quotes btw.
I took this "guest proposal" into another dealer that promised to beat any quote by $500.00. They balked and I filed a complaint with the BBB.
I'll go down this Friday to pick-up my RARE natural khaki 2009 Elantra SE with gray interior, silver pinstripes, floor mats and mud guards .
It took me a lot of work and, in some cases, a little shamelessness, but I got her done.
In your case, you might venture outside NY a bit (maybe just to NJ) to get some quotes, see if you can do better than invoice before rebates. Then use those quotes as leverage in NY, or just go buy the car in NJ.
I hope any info I provide is beneficial (I think I provided a fair amount of detail) as I, like the other gent in DFW that purchased a GLS for 10,900, had little else to go on. Oh and it only had 26 miles on it and had been on the lot less than 60 days.
PS If that number surprises ya, there's actually one or two cheaper but I don't like the color combinations of those cars (Exterior & Interior).
PSS backy, I caved on the auto vs. manual debate with my wife after reading MANY of your comments on the various boards. If sitting in traffic (and it is getting worse by the day!!!), why not the automatic??? Makes sense.
That demo is actually a Touring..looks like that's the only way I'll get into one (I prefer hatches...loved my Mazda3's hatch, but the engine just went on me...have to go whine and rant in the Mazda forums later, rod went 3 months after the warranty expired and put a hole in the block). I should hear back on pricing today: if they can get it below $16,500 I'll get the thing, otherwise I'll have to settle for an SE, since I can't get anyone to go below that.
If only GM made a halfway decent compact I could check them out: I could always make them move on price. Then again, if they made a halfway decent compact they wouldn't have gone BK. :shades:
I did see another SE w/ auto that was about 50 miles away (silver w/ gray interior, pinstripes, floor mats, mud guards AND tinted windows for 11k OTD), but that is too far for me to drive my clunker. Besides, I prefer khaki over silver. If anything should go wrong at the sales floor (high probability of that without a written quote) then I'm stuck
Cash for clunkers, poor car sales near the end of the year, good timing and just general competition all make for a shoppers paradise.
I'm picking my touring tomorrow or Sat. I'm so excited.
OK just to help with numbers to anyone in the south CT/NY Area.
Danbury Offered me
OTD price of 14308.72 ( includes all rebates, cash for clunkers at 3,500 and taxes and fees)
New Rochelle was 13990 OTD price as well. This is for the Base Touring.
Could I have done better? may be. But I'm getting 3,500 for my cluncker and 3000 Dealer/Manuf rebates and I don't like being in a dealership.
New rochelle had only a $45 doc fee and $10 for tires recycling ( I called it BS) and Danbury had Dealer fee of $359 and other fee for $110.
Hope it helps.
My car doesn't clunk enough for Cash for Clunkers. Of course, right now it doesn't clunk at all, but the "new" MPG was 23 combined I think. Curse Mazda and the engine they rode in on: did you know a used 2.3L Mazda3 engine for a 2004 is $4500 plus labor? I just checked the 2.0L Beta that the 09s use...$2200 plus labor. :shades:
Also, there are not many Elantra SE's and Tourings around here but there are many GLs.
Get the demo if the price is right.
PS: I could have gone to NJ, but I was afraid my "clunker" would not make it there.
Sounds like you got a good deal. Just a thought. Instead of using my Visa card, I take the money for the car and invest it in something like Fidelity Ginnie Mae Fund (Bond fund) which gives me about 4.25%. So I make more than I pay in interest. Currently have a loan with Red Rocks Credit Union in Highlands Ranch, CO for 2% for two years. High payments per month, but that doesn't matter to me. Just a thought.
2009 Elantra SE auto, air, spoiler, alloy wheels, cloth interior, mud flaps, car mats.
After all said and done I got it for 12992.43.
That includes tax at 6.3% and my $4500 cash for clunkers. Do I push them for cheaper or is that good...I have to go sign on it tomorrow morning.
I think the Astra is quite decent--a risk though given no one knows where Saturn will end up.
Good luck on the Touring, or SE.
However, I just got a price on my Touring demo, and while it's not as low as I wanted, it's a better deal than the SE. $16k plus tax and fees.
Otherwise I was going to get my SE for about low 12,000 or hight 11000.
good luck
That said, the price in NY/NJ for the gls auto with pkg (msrp 17400) has been in the mid 14000's at clearance time for several years. Other areas may have higher incentives.
Your govt has also flooded the market a bit with about 270,000 $4000 cash for clunker vouchers, which will probably raise sales about 10-20% in some parts of the country for a few months. This has jacked up prices a bit around the country.
I've seen numerous dealer ads around here selling vehicles that were advertised at $15000 for months now at $17000 minus the $4000 voucher. (How generous, they "let" you keep half the govt bucks! -- why shouldn't they? you work hard!)
Car dealers and congressmen, the lowest trusted professions in just about every survey. (Hint: the car dealers actually rate **slightly** higher than congressmen, er... congresspeople)
Good luck
--jjf
How are you guys getting these deals? I'm in NY state and none of the dealers will budge below invoice minus rebates. I'm looking at grabbing a demo with 5k miles on it just to cut the price.
I called another dealership about 3 hours away told them I knew others were getting for 11k and that I currently have one lined up for 12,900. He called me back with an offer of 11,880 no spoiler but with Bluetooth. Scholfield went down to 12,500 from 12,900 but I said no thanks. Driving to olathe in the morning
Of course. Everyone wants the SE. Not the GLS, particularly with no A/C. As I was saying, the dealers around here have got almost 10 GLSes in stock for every SE.
I just signed the papers on my Touring, picking it up Saturday. $16,400 plus tax (and after the $1500 rebate). But to get that price I had to get a demo. Automatic, mud guards and floor mats are the only options.