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They were the lowest - 1500 over inv for EX-L but matched the 1002 over inv that I had received today from another dealer.I had shopped around to get a deal based on their low quote. I asked for the wheel locks (which I have to get installed tomm) got that too in the deal.
They offered extened warranty and lojack but were optional. so declined.
I would say the entire process was painless!
So Bay area ppl I would recommend purchasing from Jim Doten Honda - Berkeley.
My salesman was nice enough to tell me to try Curry Honda or some other places, stating she cannot in good conscience offer $1850 as a "good" price for the 100,000 miles/7 year/0 deductible Honda care deal.
Other than Curry, which dealerships should I contact for the extended warranty?
Thanks.
RE: posts no. 8519 (“I just felt that "check list" was a bit over the top”), 8510 (“All of these things are carefully checked in the Pre-Delivery Inspection Someone sure had a lot of time on their hands!”) and 8516 (“ I just think that pondrous list was a bit...well ...more than a bit of overkill”).
For someone so critical and speculative about certain posts (and the time spent in preparation thereof), you surely devote a considerable part of your life to this board and posting messages herein.
How are sales, sir? Perhaps there’s a car on the lot that you could help detail today instead of poring over Edmunds’ boards. Or perchance you might contribute to the perfect and “careful” pre-delivery inspections which are purportedly a feature of the buying experience at your dealership.
As for me and SEVERAL other posters here, we were apparently deprived of the perfect pre-delivery inspections which you proclaim to be so widespread. Absent such perfection, I see nothing wrong with a (sample) consumer checklist such as that posted at 8497. It’s not exactly a pack of gum we’re buying. I don’t think preparedness of a 2005 vehicle (esp. given all the electronics, etc. involved nowadays) should be so presumed.
Wait. Let’s try this: Don’t sharpshoot. Particularly where a CONSUMER is trying to help another CONSUMER.
I have no problem with anyone who wants to take the time to prepare a tedious checklist. You are correct, it's not a "pack of gum". It's an expensive vehicle and you are entitled to as detailed of an inspection as you feel is necessary. If I happen to think it's "over the top" or being overally obsessive I think I have the right to say that as well.
Having said this...I do think the store I work at is far above average in most respects and Pre Delivery Inspection are one of these things. Other stores may not be as careful and this,no doubt is what instills a lack of confidence with buyers and long check lists.
I'm in houston and looking for an EX-L with RES and NAV. I am building a spreadsheet with the data I've found so far...the results so far have David McDavid as best in price, but way too close the MSRP as yet (30,449 vs. 33,500). I'm looking around for much better. I saw on an earlier post that someone got a good deal in Lake Jackson, but last I checked they had 0 inventory (in November). Let me know how your search is going...
thanks,
mike
thanks,
mike
Funny how that works!
We are looking for EX Or EX-L.
Thanks.
honda just instituted a price increase. http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050214/lam116_1.html. that's why the difference. yes, $23,348 included destination charge.
have you tried auburn? let us know if you find a better deal....
Thanks.
Touring with NAV/RES
destination
cargo tray
cargo net
cross bars
wheel locks &
3rd row sunshade
Try the usual suspects (Jacobs' Twin, Muller, Ed Napleton, O'Hare, etc.).
The prices are definitely coming down -- albeit slowly and with a lot of resistance from the dealerships which cannot accept the reality that the prices are coming down even if Honda has intentionally created a shortage of Touring with NAV/RES.
Last December, I backed out of a deal at a suburban dealership after waiting for nearly 3 months because the salesman refused to acknowledge the changed market condition (which I was actually willing to accept to get it over with) and then tried to pad his already fat profit margin (close to MSRP) by tacking on huge garbage fees (rust proofing/"fabric" care for the leather seats for $900, racing stripes/sports package for $500 and extended warranty for $1900) at the last possible moment when my wife showed up to sign the papers and pick up the van.
Initially, he tried to tell my wife (who had to bring our young kids to the dealership since she had no child care that day while I was out of town on business) that I had asked and agreed to get these options.
He had not counted on my wife being a very tough negotiator, having spent much of her professional career negotiating huge deals. Undetered, he then tried to "honey" her into signing these papers. She gave him one last chance to reconsider and right the sitation. After a quick cell phone conversation with me and when he did not capitulate and kept trying to convince her what a great bargain "your husband" had cut for you and your kids, she just got up and walked away from the deal.
The guy tried to get the deal back, claiming that this had been a huge mistake on his part, this time telling her he thought she was someone else's wife who was supposed to come in to pick up a van! She told him people like him should learn there are consequences to conducting business that way. She walked.
In the process we are saving nearly $2,000 while sending a message that we don't want to do business with people like that. We did have to wait another 2 months or so. But, the wait is well worth it in my opinion.
Good luck.
Suggest you shop some more.
When to Honda of Mesa and the list the EX at 28510 MSRP. I have not started my haggling but looking to create some leverage with other honda dealerships in the area. I am not afraid to travel a little to get a great deal (ie, up to 1.5% above dealer invoice, which if you figure in the dealer holdback of 3.3% translates into a nice 4.8% profit for the dealer).
any experiences in the area would be greatly appreciated.
thanks
Standing ovation for your wife! I'm a guy, but I think it is outstanding when women do this kind of thing with car salespeople. My wife was "honeyed" several times in our search and it made her furious.
Even then $1200 (1500 - 300) over invoice for an EX seems a bit high. Shop around, don't fall for the usual game of "supply isn't meeting up with demand".
Stevens creek was not willing to negotiate anymore after 1250 over invoice.
Larry Hopkins - $800 below MSRP
I think if I had waited a little more I could have gotten about 500 over inv but I am so happy driving our EX-L!!
BTW - I got the wheel locks too, my wife wanted the splash guards but it was not part of the deal so plan to install it after market myself.
hope this helps...
(it's the message board equivalent of shouting)
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I am in Dallas area and considering to buy Odyssey. Can you give me the dealer 's name and contact number? What was your drive out price? How does it work if you buy a car out of state? Can you be more detaile in giving more info on buying and driving it back home? How does it work with taxes? I would greatly appreciate it.
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I am in Dallas area and considering to buy Odyssey. Can you give me the dealer 's name and contact number? What was your drive out price? How does it work if you buy a car out of state? Can you be more detaile in giving more info on buying and driving it back home? How does it work with taxes? I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks"
I'm guessing you are asking me.
Fenton Honda of Ardmore. I can't post the phone number as per forum rules. E-mail me and I will give you info about sales person and number.
Drive out price: 29500 (which includes destination and $89 doc fee).
Since I'm in Texas, I have to pay taxes in Texas when I register (sometime this week).
No big deal buying out of state. Nobody pulled me over :-). It was easy.
She told him people like him should learn there are consequences to conducting business that way. She walked. "
HOORAY! I too am a guy but it insults me as well as my wife to see women treated this way. Wake up salespeople, its the 21st century. We walked away from Subhuman Ford in Northern California - one reason was the way they treated my wife. When she got behind the wheel to test drive the vehicle, he cautioned her about how to make a left turn ahead. (You had to be there to get the tone.) I am glad she refused to allow the deal back on the table. There are consequences. No wonder people have the opinion of salespeople that they have. No offense to isell and others. There are many fine salespeople out there. I have had a sales position for a while (not cars). What is needed is professional people who can treat people with respect and not like village idiots with no brains. (I know there are a lot out there in that category). Guess the smart shoppers will have to patiently seekout the professional salespeople and let the idiot buyers have the jerk salespeople.
Again, kudos to your wife.
so far I have gotten one of the local dealerships down to $26,450 for the EX trim model (MSRP $28,510) which translates into a 4% over invoice price ($25,527). If you factor in the dealer holdback thats 7.3% over wholesale, nice profit. Still at with a MSRP of $28,510 the $26.4K price represents a 9.3% price drop.
Still working, but it looks like slim pickings in the pheonix metroplex area.
Park Honda in Akron offered me a Touring R&N at invoice earlier this month. Their website shows they still have that particular unit in stock as well as a second one in the same color (silver).
Thanks for the help
He had not counted on my wife being a very tough negotiator, having spent much of her professional career negotiating huge deals. Undetered, he then tried to "honey" her into signing these papers. She gave him one last chance to reconsider and right the sitation. After a quick cell phone conversation with me and when he did not capitulate and kept trying to convince her what a great bargain "your husband" had cut for you and your kids, she just got up and walked away from the deal
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What a winner!!! Never forget "it's a war out there". You may have lost the battle, but in the end you'll get the car you want and "win the war".
If more people were like your wife, and purchased using their head rather than their heart, maybe salesman (of all types) would get the message.
Can someone tell me what a good deal for a LX would be. When others quote 500 over invoice for EX models-- does that include destination?
Thanks for the help
Can someone tell me what a good deal for a LX would be. When others quote 500 over invoice for EX models-- does that include destination?
Thanks for the help
I'm in the market for an ODDY.
Who is your dealer and did you have a good experience with them?
Thanks,
D.
$36,908 (incl. destination, wheel locks, mud flaps, and cargo tray - $2,102 off MSRP)
$296 (dealer processing)
TOTAL = $37,204 + TTL
We are also going to purchase the Honda Care extended warranty (7/100/0) for $1069 + tax, which is what this site said that I could do it over the phone with at Sam Swope. Dealer agreed to match this.
All in all, I got a LOT fewer responses from dealers willing to negotiate than I thought. The majority of responses were MSRP or above, even when I emailed them back with other good offers I had. A lot of them were also quite condescending – “Other dealers are lying to you if they are telling you they can go lower than MSRP just to get you into their showroom. Come to me if you want honesty.” Blah, blah Is it because I am a woman? Anyway, a lot of others were only around $500 off MSRP. There were really only 2 good offers, one in MD and the other in VA, willing to match the MD offer and throw in the accessories (plus I don’t have to spend my time to get it safety inspected and titled since it’s in the same state). Both internet sales people were wonderful: both very responsive, thorough, and addressed all my questions.
The two dealers that offered the best deals and were wonderful to work with are:
O’Donnell Honda in Ellicott City, MD
And Pohanka Honda of Fredricksburg, VA
Thanks to all who posted information and helped me through this process! I'm only posting my experience since your posts all helped me.
Andrew
2. Also, does the 25,012 invoice price include the new 200 addition by Honda as of this month? Thanks.