My 2006 2.5x auto has been been plagued by an intermittent noise coming from possibly the front passenger wheel area that occurs when backing up (when car has been parked a while) , going over speed bumps & irregular surfaces and often when applying the brakes. The dealer has inspected the suspension and they replaced the control arm bushing and the brake pads with no luck. A Subaru rep said the noises I'm hearing are being caused by the brake pads moving around in the caliper due to normal play in the rotor. He suspected an Axle nut was loose and contributing to the rotor movement so it was changed but the noise persists. To me it seems the noises are coming from a lack of lubrication. The other day we had dry winds so the humidity was low and the problem was magnified 10 fold.
I have provided links below to a WAV and a MP3 file of a couple recordings I made. Once you hear me say "there" you have heard the noise. The first recording was made when the car is cold as I 'm backing it out of the garage. My garage is level but the driveway is slanted so it almost always pop's there. Any help with a diagnosis would be greatly appreciated. Hopefully I'm not the only Subaru owner with this problem but I might be.
my son has an 02 Forester, manual trans, about 55k miles, he gets a thump thump thump noise when he makes a very sharp turn. He says that it sounds like a guy who is wearing a helmet when getting hit by a baseball bat. I thought it might be a cv problem, but he has had it checked out by a couple of different tech who say its not cv problem. None of them have figured out what it is yet. Noise occurs only when moving/turning - but it is also intermittent and hides when you want to show it ! Any suggestions?
Hello all. I have an 01 Outback with the acrylic hood deflector. I think that all of my car washes finally spelled the demise. It cracked so it occasionally just flaps in the wind
Is there a way to replace just the actual acrylic part and not have to re-install the whole mechanism? I am definately not mechanically inclined
just installed a new belt and the ignition timing is now about 90 degrees off - is there a reset switch ? could it be the ignitor ( ignition module ? ) thanks in advance my mechanic is baffled...cams are at 12 o clock, used the 3 marks - changed the tooth by one...but the car wont fire...
If it's off by 90 degrees it's not going to fire, I suggest not paying your mechanic and bring it to a qualified subaru mechanic as your mechanic is probably not qualified to work on the subies
Yes, those loud clunks sound to me like a differential is binding. If it were a CV, I would expect a crunching/grinding noise when turning, but not loud, regularly timed clunks. The clunks are a result of stress in the system (due to different turning rates of inner and outer wheels) being relieved. Check those fluids and change if necessary, but it might be too late.
2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
Do they last without peeling or yellowing? Peeling, there will be some after the third year but no yellowing. Just don't use Simple Green to wipe over.
I had the clear bra done five years ago and over the years the car has taken alot of poundings - 8" dia composite flower pot; side mirror of a SUV; alligators on I-95; stones and pebbles... etc. The car still looks better than the hits it took.
If you're in the Tri-State, I can recommend the guy who did my tint and clear bra.
that sounds like a possible diagnosis.... he tells me the thump occurs after long drives. He has had prescribed maintenance on the Forester - but I don't know if that would include fluid check or changes...
I was told from local Rally shop that $700's about as cheap as it gets for clear bras out here - am waiting for some recommendations for the Portland OR (Tigard, specifically) area. Will try to get it done in a week or so, but the prospective cost hurts.
I'll second the clear bra, around here it goes for about $650ish. I had it done on my armada and even after my dad took out a grand marquee with the truck the 3m clear bra was fully intact!
Do not put it on your headlights or fog lights. It will get all nasty if you idle your car with the lights on at all. I rather spend the $ to replace the whole light housing than have it get burn on
-mike
PS: Don't cover your IC with a filter like that or you will defeat the purpose. If anything get some wire mesh from home depot and make a cover for it.
We've been thinking about the possible differential problem, and don't know much at all about what's required here. the car is an 02 Forester , manual, approx 63k miles, timing belt & water pump changed at 60 k service$$ in Seattle area. cv joint and axles were checked in last 4 months and deemed OK.
1. What is the failure possibility or pattern here ... are we good for 10k miles with increasing thumping, or could a catastrophic failure be imminent??? 2. What are the likely costs? would replacement be mandated for the differential, or is there some intermediate solution? 3. Is the problem unique enough to Subaru that only Subie technicians or dlrs should be considered?
Make sure your mechanic used the correct marks when he initially set the cam / crank timing.
On the 2.5L, the crankshaft sprocket has two stamped-in marks, 90 degrees from each other. No idea why Subaru did that.
I made the (rookie) mistake of using the triangle-shaped mark on the face of the sprocket rather than the bar-shaped one at the back to time the valves with the crank. I could blame it on bad tech data, but more realistically it was my own inexperience.
Anyway, three broken valves and a $3500 rebuild later, I'm just about ready to put it back on the road. Anyone have an engine hoist I can borrow?!
ronaries10 - while I can't directly answer your technical questions, I can say that if you do end up in need of a Seattle-area Subaru specialist & are looking to save a bit over the dealer, check out Smart Service... they have shops in Mountlake Terrace (at the King-Snohomish line) and Mukilteo, & are highly rated by AAA. I primarily use my dealer, but I've also had great experience with these guys. IMHO, they're knowledgeable, honest, & can save you quite a bit. You can check 'em out online here: http://www.smart-service.com/
Are we discussing a rear differential here? They are self-contained units, so unless you are looking at rebuilding it rather than replacing it, I suspect it to be a very simple process: Disconnect half-shafts and drive shaft, unbolt it from the body, install new differential, fill with oil.
2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
I have a 1998 Forester - automatic transmission with almost 165K miles. While driving ona road trip this weekend while going up a mountain in Central PA, the CEL came on and the care starting jerking. I took it to a mechanic a few miles down the street and they checked the fluids and added oil and transmission fluid and said I needed to change the transmission filter which is causing the jerking when the car shift gears. I called a couple of dealers and they say Foresters do not have transmission filters and it's probably the solenoid that needs replacing (over $400). Is it worth it to spend the money? My husband wants to trade the car in and get a new car since we keep replacing things (CV boots, O2 sensor, etc). Thanks very much for any help.
How do I figure out what the code is? Can I do it myself? I took it to the dealer today and they said it was the spark plugs and wires - needed to be replaced and I also needed a fuel induction system change, or something like that for over $600. They also added that I needed the valve covers replaced for $550. I got them to adjust the price for the first part for $100 less, but decided to forgo the valve cover replacements for now. I hope this care will last another 6 to 8 months without anything else mahor happening. Did I get hosed on the price?
The dealer's diagnosis makes more sense than the first shop. In addition to the plugs and wires, it sounds like they did a fuel system "charge" with a can of BG 209 using their fuel injection/induction system cleaning machine: http://www.bgprod.com/products/fuelair2.html That is standard practice for shops and dealers when there may be a fuel system problem. It's a high-profit procedure. Various shops and dealers have done the BG thing to several of our cars over the years.
So your dealer did ignition and fuel system actions, one of which or both cured your problem. The price of $500 is high but not unreasonable.
Yeah $500 for the injector cleaner, wires and plugs is a little high, but average for a dealer so you didn't get totally hosed. Glad it fixed the problem.
Thanks, everyone. I called my husband about the initial price (~$550) and he nearly flipped. I got him to call some other dealers to see what it would cost and other dealers quoted under $200 for the spark plugs and wires with labor and that the fuel induction cleaning was not really necessary, especially if we were going to trade/sell the car in 6 months (we're moving cross country). He did not have a nice talk with the service people - that they took advantage of a very pregnant lady when I asked for the minimum to be done to get the CEL (by the way, the code was P0304) to go off and the jerking to stop when shifting gears.
I was able to convince the service manager to give me the price of $441 out the door in a relatively civil manner. The CEL is off now, but ocassionally I still get a little jerking of the car at low speeds - will have to see if it gets better in the next couple of days. If something else comes up - we'll have to trade it in or sell it since we will have two kids by then and will probably need new wheels.
I'm seeing in the '09 Forester, now that there is some nice weather up here with sun, that while the white exterior does not get very warm from solar heating, the sunroof internal cover does.
Is anyone aware of a Subaru approved or aftermarket device that helps reflect sunlight off the internal sun roof cover, thus helping keep the head down inside the vehicle?
I have 97,000 miles on my 2000 Outback. Today I was driving along and suddenly the engine shut off, power steering goes away. Luckily I had enough momentum to coast into parking lot.
So I try to start the engine and it cranks fine and strong, but won't start... Does this sound like a fuel pump issue or anything else? Hopefully not expensive... :sick:
Seems odd for it to be so sudden (no symptoms) and persistent. As such, I would agree that it could be fuel, or otherwise a lack of spark (coil pack failed). Anyone else?
2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
Turned out to be the fuel pump and relay. The dealership said the relay overheated. Since then, I talked to the subaru specialists in sacramento and they said its very unlikely that both pump and relay would go out. It's usually one or the other. Is this true?
Dealership also said timing belt tensioner is making noise, but I don't hear anything...
We have gotten more info and service and can update our situation previously described:
"We've been thinking about the possible differential problem, and don't know much at all about what's required here. the car is an 02 Forester , manual, approx 63k miles, timing belt & water pump changed at 60 k service$$ in Seattle area. cv joint and axles were checked in last 4 months and deemed OK. "
The problem - heavy knocking/thumping in front was diagnosed as a failing viscous coupler both by dealer and indy garage (subie spec) in Seattle area. Costs were est at $1000 and $1250 b4 tax, respectively, and we chose the indy garage previously recommended (here) "Smart" Subaru specialists. Chose to renew the failing clutch at $900 also, discounted to $800 for amount of work . Car has endured the first 120 miles well, so far!
There was an odor of oil - possibly gear oil? - in car at first but it seems to have dissipated now.
Our experience has been a high amount of service required at 65000 mile range (timing belt, tune, water pump, frt rotor/pad, vis coupler, clutch) when compared to our other cars - perhaps this must balance against the AWD option of the Forester.
I also doubt it was the pump and the relay. My guess it was the relay and they just took you for a ride on the pump part mike
While not terribly likely, more-than-rated current can damage relay contacts. Such might occur with leakage to ground or shorted turns in the pump. Another way to burn the contacts is a loose connection to the relay coil which produces excessive repetitive relay actuation.
(note: posted this awhile ago in maint & repair, got no responses at all, so here it is, for your convenience. Apologies for the cross-posting, but struck out the first time!)
Looking for some opinion & guidance, as usual
I'm aware of the complications regarding a high-mileage changeover from dino to synthetic engine oil - does the same cautionary tale apply to trannies & differentials?
I'm getting some feedback from the car (the 99 GT, 160K) that a fluid change is in order. Given the mileage & uncertainty as to when it was last done, I think it's time.
75W90, correct? And do those numbers change if I pull the synthetic trigger?
Synthetics in the diffys and trans is very very good, even on a high milage car. This is the only form of cooling that they get so any reduction in friction will lead to a longer service life.
I bought a brand new 2008 Legacy Limited sedan 3 weeks ago. I have a mere 650 miles on the car. Since then it has developed some odd electrical problems.
Two days after I bought it, while driving it on the highway for about an hour or so, the display on the dash above the CD/radio (which shows mpg, time, temp, etc.) flashed & came back on. Oddly, the car showed only 16.7 mpg despite the fact that I was driving exclusively on the highway.
A week ago, I noticed the car radio volume had become quite loud. I noted that the radio station display was unlit. I tried to lower the volume, change the radio station, even turn the radio off and I could do none of these things. I pulled off the road, turned the car off, then back on and was able to get the radio to work properly again.
Finally this past Friday the radio just completely cut off and could not be turned back on until going through the same process of shutting off the engine and turning it back on.
The car was taken to the dealer's service department who checked it, but they couldn't find the problem.
I'm concerned that this could eventually prove to be a safety issue. Am I correct?
I mean, this is a BRAND NEW CAR! I don't believe that electrical systems need to be "broken in."
What rights do I have?
The dealership has told me that I have to document every time I have a problem, but frankly I am concerned that I could have complete electrical failure.
What should I do? I have told the dealership that they must make this situation right.
I once worked for GM as electronic engineer, so here are some possibilities:
1. Bad connection somewhere in the system buss linking instruments to body computer (badly seated plug, damaged harness, etc), 2. Body control computer itself is faulty. 3. Someone/something with very strong CB or other transmitter temporarily "jammed" your vehicle electronics as they/it passed you (I have seen this happen in my former Malibu) causing various parts to get screwed up. 4. Was it raining or did the vehicle hit any water? If water hits any badly fitting electrical connectors, that could cause momentary faults in the system.
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coming from possibly the front passenger wheel area that occurs when backing up
(when car has been parked a while) , going over speed bumps &
irregular surfaces and often when applying the brakes. The dealer has
inspected the suspension and they replaced the control arm bushing and
the brake pads with no luck. A Subaru rep said the noises I'm hearing
are being caused by the brake pads moving around in the caliper due to
normal play in the rotor. He suspected an Axle nut was loose and
contributing to the rotor movement so it was changed but the noise
persists. To me it seems the noises are coming from a lack of
lubrication. The other day we had dry winds so the humidity was low
and the problem was magnified 10 fold.
I have provided links below to a WAV and a MP3 file of a couple
recordings I made. Once you hear me say "there" you have heard the
noise. The first recording was made when the car is cold as I 'm
backing it out of the garage. My garage is level but the driveway is
slanted so it almost always pop's there. Any help with a diagnosis
would be greatly appreciated. Hopefully I'm not the only Subaru owner with this problem but I might be.
http://www.bikingdestinations.com/28.wav
http://www.bikingdestinations.com/28.mp3
Here is another recording as I was driving over uneven pavement.
http://www.bikingdestinations.com/27.wav
http://www.bikingdestinations.com/27.mp3
2006 x Auto
no harm checking the endlink.
-Dave
-mike
http://answers.edmunds.com/question-I-1990-Subaru-It-parked-hill-stuck-4th-gear-- wheels-locked-Help-8944.aspx
Noise occurs only when moving/turning - but it is also intermittent and hides when you want to show it ! Any suggestions?
ronaries
WHen it does make a noise is it related to the speed of the wheels?
-mike
Is there a way to replace just the actual acrylic part and not have to re-install the whole mechanism? I am definately not mechanically inclined
-mike
1. do they work?
2. do they last without peeling or yellowing?
3. are they worth the bucks ($900 at my friendly subaru dealer for front and sides)
Any ideas on where to get a good Intercooler screen or filter?
I may just try a very coarse furnace filter (made out of plastic woven fiber - no paper here !! :surprise: ) placed just above the intercooler fins.
Do they work? Best investment you'll ever make.
Do they last without peeling or yellowing? Peeling, there will be some after the third year but no yellowing. Just don't use Simple Green to wipe over.
I had the clear bra done five years ago and over the years the car has taken alot of poundings - 8" dia composite flower pot; side mirror of a SUV; alligators on I-95; stones and pebbles... etc. The car still looks better than the hits it took.
If you're in the Tri-State, I can recommend the guy who did my tint and clear bra.
-Dave
-Dave
Will try to get it done in a week or so, but the prospective cost hurts.
-mike
-mike
PS: Don't cover your IC with a filter like that or you will defeat the purpose. If anything get some wire mesh from home depot and make a cover for it.
1. What is the failure possibility or pattern here ... are we good for 10k miles with increasing thumping, or could a catastrophic failure be imminent???
2. What are the likely costs? would replacement be mandated for the differential, or is there some intermediate solution?
3. Is the problem unique enough to Subaru that only Subie technicians or dlrs should be considered?
thanks for all help!
On the 2.5L, the crankshaft sprocket has two stamped-in marks, 90 degrees from each other. No idea why Subaru did that.
I made the (rookie) mistake of using the triangle-shaped mark on the face of the sprocket rather than the bar-shaped one at the back to time the valves with the crank. I could blame it on bad tech data, but more realistically it was my own inexperience.
Anyway, three broken valves and a $3500 rebuild later, I'm just about ready to put it back on the road. Anyone have an engine hoist I can borrow?!
TB
Good luck!
-mike
I called a couple of dealers and they say Foresters do not have transmission filters and it's probably the solenoid that needs replacing (over $400). Is it worth it to spend the money? My husband wants to trade the car in and get a new car since we keep replacing things (CV boots, O2 sensor, etc). Thanks very much for any help.
-mike
Actually, the '98 Forester 4EAT do have a transmission filter; however, it'll cost to get to.
It's in the AT fluid pan. :sick:
-Dave
http://www.bgprod.com/products/fuelair2.html
That is standard practice for shops and dealers when there may be a fuel system problem. It's a high-profit procedure. Various shops and dealers have done the BG thing to several of our cars over the years.
So your dealer did ignition and fuel system actions, one of which or both cured your problem. The price of $500 is high but not unreasonable.
-mike
I was able to convince the service manager to give me the price of $441 out the door in a relatively civil manner. The CEL is off now, but ocassionally I still get a little jerking of the car at low speeds - will have to see if it gets better in the next couple of days. If something else comes up - we'll have to trade it in or sell it since we will have two kids by then and will probably need new wheels.
thanks, everyone!
Is anyone aware of a Subaru approved or aftermarket device that helps reflect sunlight off the internal sun roof cover, thus helping keep the head down inside the vehicle?
So I try to start the engine and it cranks fine and strong, but won't start... Does this sound like a fuel pump issue or anything else? Hopefully not expensive... :sick:
Thanks in advace for any help.
Dealership also said timing belt tensioner is making noise, but I don't hear anything...
Thanks for your replies.
That sounds ominous. I would ask the dealer for more information with regard to possibility of timing belt failure and engine damage.
"We've been thinking about the possible differential problem, and don't know much at all about what's required here. the car is an 02 Forester , manual, approx 63k miles, timing belt & water pump changed at 60 k service$$ in Seattle area. cv joint and axles were checked in last 4 months and deemed OK. "
The problem - heavy knocking/thumping in front was diagnosed as a failing viscous coupler both by dealer and indy garage (subie spec) in Seattle area. Costs were est at $1000 and $1250 b4 tax, respectively, and we chose the indy garage previously recommended (here) "Smart" Subaru specialists. Chose to renew the failing clutch at $900 also, discounted to $800 for amount of work . Car has endured the first 120 miles well, so far!
There was an odor of oil - possibly gear oil? - in car at first but it seems to have dissipated now.
Our experience has been a high amount of service required at 65000 mile range (timing belt, tune, water pump, frt rotor/pad, vis coupler, clutch) when compared to our other cars - perhaps this must balance against the AWD option of the Forester.
Thanks all for your comments.
-mike
-mike
mike
While not terribly likely, more-than-rated current can damage relay contacts. Such might occur with leakage to ground or shorted turns in the pump. Another way to burn the contacts is a loose connection to the relay coil which produces excessive repetitive relay actuation.
dave
Looking for some opinion & guidance, as usual
I'm aware of the complications regarding a high-mileage changeover from dino to synthetic engine oil - does the same cautionary tale apply to trannies & differentials?
I'm getting some feedback from the car (the 99 GT, 160K) that a fluid change is in order. Given the mileage & uncertainty as to when it was last done, I think it's time.
75W90, correct? And do those numbers change if I pull the synthetic trigger?
Thanks, gang, and
Cheers!
Paul
-mike
Two days after I bought it, while driving it on the highway for about an hour or so, the display on the dash above the CD/radio (which shows mpg, time, temp, etc.) flashed & came back on. Oddly, the car showed only 16.7 mpg despite the fact that I was driving exclusively on the highway.
A week ago, I noticed the car radio volume had become quite loud. I noted that the radio station display was unlit. I tried to lower the volume, change the radio station, even turn the radio off and I could do none of these things. I pulled off the road, turned the car off, then back on and was able to get the radio to work properly again.
Finally this past Friday the radio just completely cut off and could not be turned back on until going through the same process of shutting off the engine and turning it back on.
The car was taken to the dealer's service department who checked it, but they couldn't find the problem.
I'm concerned that this could eventually prove to be a safety issue. Am I correct?
I mean, this is a BRAND NEW CAR! I don't believe that electrical systems need to be "broken in."
What rights do I have?
The dealership has told me that I have to document every time I have a problem, but frankly I am concerned that I could have complete electrical failure.
What should I do? I have told the dealership that they must make this situation right.
I'd appreciate any and all advice. Thanks!
1. Bad connection somewhere in the system buss linking instruments to body computer (badly seated plug, damaged harness, etc),
2. Body control computer itself is faulty.
3. Someone/something with very strong CB or other transmitter temporarily "jammed" your vehicle electronics as they/it passed you (I have seen this happen in my former Malibu) causing various parts to get screwed up.
4. Was it raining or did the vehicle hit any water? If water hits any badly fitting electrical connectors, that could cause momentary faults in the system.