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take it in for the brakes, and you should be OK...but the argument is that the repair isnt of such crucial importance that you cant come back at a more convenient time for you.
I always get silver (boring),
'04 King Cab 4x4, LE, Off-Road, Tow, Nav, Utili-Trac, VDC, side curtain air bags, bed extender, sliding tool box.
I would like to have had the CC and sunroof but I need the extra 6 inches for motorcycle(s).
I'll put up a picture...I'm gonna put the Z71 emblem Ryan gave me on it...Z71 Titan LOL...
Tom
Nice to have some back seat room too, since my last two Chevs were regular cabs.
This comment may be hard to take for Titan owners, but my Silverado DuraMax Diesel would run away from the Titan from about 60-105. The Silverado had oversize tires (P255/85/16)so it exceeded the 97 mph speed limiter. The above was checked with a GPS receiver. That said, the Titan keeps on going once it gets to 105, limited to 114 it's said. I ran out of room at 110 and back'd her down. (And now that I have a speeding ticket, I won't be trying again anytime soon.)
The turbo-charged Silverado was very highway friendly, expecially at the high altitude where I live, Colorado. There wasn't a hill it couldn't take in 6th gear. The Titan 5 spd is good too but it needs to shift some. The Titan is more peppy around town, more fun to drive, tighter steering and more road feedback.
The regulator on the drivers side power window went out on the rado and the extended warranty covers only the motor. The following week, the passenger's side went out. I figured someone was trying to tell me something so I decided it was time for a new truck. Visited several Chevy, one GMC, and one Toyota/Chevy dealership looking at crew cabs. GM was offering $2k rebate with another $1.5k current customer rebate totalling $3500. Something must have been wrong that day as none of the Chevy dealers were willing to come down off of MSRP before rebates on the crewcabs. Guess they figured let GM give all the discounts.
I was in no way about to pay MSRP for a GM product, no way no how. As a last ditch attempt to buy a truck, I stopped at a Nissan dealer looking for a black Titan. Guess what? No black Titans lol. Luckily another color caught my eye...red brawn...looks real close to carmine red. Must be an age thing. Only problem was it wasn't optioned the way I wanted it though it had a bedliner and bed extender it was a stripper model but had the power windows and door locks. I'm thinking maybe I should visit another Nissan dealer. My daughter disagreed saying we had been to enough dealers.
I didn't care for the other colors so I bought the red brawn. I was hoping that since it was a '05 model (manufactured 11/04) it wouldn't have inherited the problems that plagued the first year Titans. So far so good with only what seems to be a tire out of balance or with a flat spot which provides me with that "warm fuzzy feeling" that my rado had given me over the years....lol.
This is where it gets good. Going into finance, I figured I'd let them handle everything. I will never do that again. They tried to sell me an Echomaster reverse sensor system which retails for $149 for $675 installed. Gap insurance for $500 which you can easily get on the net for $300. Mudflaps for $190 sheesh....and the worst was the monthly came out to $669 and I said whoa!! What's the selling price again? We confirmed that and I said that being the case the monthly should be around $400 with no down (company vehicle). After looking over the paperwork I found the apr to be 17.25%. I immediately called my banker and had him handle the financing.
All in all a good truck. Installed some weathertechs, westin nerfs, billet grill, and had the front windows tinted. Now all I have to do is find some 25" rims and a 4/6 drop kit for the bling bling lol.
Did your truck come with the Rockford Fosgate system? I'm assuming so at that trim level. If so, I'm more surprised that it would have reception problems as Rockford is pretty good stuff.
I'm also thinking of changing out the front brake pads to ceramic cause I can't stand that black brake dust. What is that brake kit that everyone is waiting for/having installed?
There is a TSB for the brakes that includes new anchor bolts, sliding pins, pads, special grease, and they turn the rotors with a special lathe while on the vehicle. They say this is better. Basically, the Titan has the same brake woes as the Tundra. It seems to happen for most at 7-10k miles. Anyway, I just had it done. The ceramic pads I'd like to get, too much brake dust also.
17.25% ? Lol...funny!
On my '01 'Rado, with the Izuzu designed diesel and German ZF designed 6 spd manual, I wondered what was left for GM to screw up. Well, it turned out to be the flywheel...Doh! GM puts in a "Dual Mass" flywheel that starts to fail about 35-45k miles, it's covered under the 100k Duramax engine warranty, but you need a new pressure plate which they don't cover. I made up my mind I wasn't putting up with any more of that style of non-sense. And then the Bosch injector problem affecting about 15-20% of 2001-2002 LB7 Duramax Diesels before 75,000 miles. This problem I didn't have yet, but I felt it wasn't a matter of "if" but when. The injectors were covered under the Dmax warranty, but when they leak, the crankcase fills up with diesel fuel and it pukes the motor oil out the overflow vent all over the road, driveway etc. The injectors are located under the valve covers. That's why that happens. Smart!
But I wanted the Titan, made an offer and they actually let me walk, first time that's ever happened. Three days later, still hadn't heard from them so I figured my offer must not have been realistic. Looking for a different tac, I browsed the local dealer inventory on the Nissan internet website, found about 4 dealers that had Titans equipped like I wanted, and I went about faxing them offer sheets. Before I got the 4th offer sheet faxed, the phone started ringing off the hook. Every offer was accepted. I called back the first dealer and crowed a bit, and they changed their tune.
Basically though, the 'Rado still was in pretty strong demand resale-wise because of the diesel, a nice hook. But because the trade-in value was still good on it, there wasn't enough purchase difference after trade to motivate the dealer, so I sweetened it instead by going for a more expensive truck. So I made offers on the most loaded king cabs I could find that combined off-road, tow package, and Nav in the right color. I would have loved the CC with sunroof, but I needed the 6 inches in the bed.
So obviously, you have the 2WD version, making perfect sense for you. You were unbelievable forgiving of GM for those early vibes, whereby they made weld-ments to your frame etc. That was about the most horrific story I had ever heard on a '99 Silverado.
Ryan thinks we've both flipped, and YOU getting the Carmine Red (er...Red Brawn!)
Does your truck have the Utili-Trac system? You mentioned bed liner, (they offer a drop-in) but also said you have the bed-extender which I thought was only available on the Utili-Trac option, no?
Anyway, your 2WD ought to be lots quicker, and get better fuel mileage too. The 4x4 off-road has a numerically higher rear axle ratio, and it's heavier with big tow mirrors that act like para-sails. My fuel mileage is not good. I had one tank where I almost got 400 miles, wind aided highway. Best 16.0 (once only) most other tanks between 14-15, and several under 14. My 'Rado long bed with 34 gallon and Dmax would range to 700+ miles...nice.
Gawd...my recollection was that my loan was like 4.9%. I got it at E-Loan, they approved it in about 5 minutes. They FED-X'd me a "Power Check" which I just carried with me, and wrote it out at the dealership for the purchase amount, really easy. I think Nissan financing was 2.5% or $2000 rebate. At the time, I did the math, and it was cheaper for me to take the rebate and the E-Loan financing than to go for the lower Nissan APR.
You use an HTML tag.
Well, that makes my Titan look like a saint! Not sure I'd consider GM if they are still being boneheaded about stuff like that!
Well, that makes my Titan look like a saint! Not sure I'd consider GM if they are still being boneheaded about stuff like that! <<<
Well...they redesigned it. But if they had that problem in '94 and they still had it in '01, what confidence is there in that? I was warned not to get a manual transmission, but Ford uses the same ZF S-650 medium duty 6 spd manual in the Super Duty and their diesel. And as far as I know, they've got a clutch/flywheel combo that works for them. That ended up being the only disappointment for me, if you don't count the letter from GM about the fuel injector problem. I didn't feel like sticking around waiting for that to happen either, although day to day I liked the truck. I like the Titan more though.
About the financing.....On my last two vehicles I worked with GM dealers that I have a buying history with. My '02 Denali was financed at 0% 5 years no down. My '00 Silverado was financed at 7% no down through my bank. The Denali was a personal purchase, the Silverado through my company.
The Titan is for business use therefore purchased through the company and not me. When asked to fill a credit app I explained it wasn't necessary as I have my own financing. Still they insisted on working the deal saying they could get a better rate. How they determined the rate of the loan is beyond me. It appeared that the dealer financed the deal as there seemed to be no bank involved, not on paper anyway. Our insurance company asked who the loss payee would be and at this time I have no clue. I'm assuming our banker is working with the dealership.
If a customer came in and told you that they had their own financing and that the loan would be worked through the company, what info would you require? I assume nothing more than the banker's name and phone number.
I have a drop in liner with the bed extender. I would think the bed extender would work either way as it's aftermarket and available for most trucks.
After reading the other forum, it appears that the brake issue hasn't been resolved and I should expect it to happen around 7-10k miles? Dang.....
If that is the case I shouldn't tinker with ceramic pads as it would definitely void the warranty on the pads for sure...and the dealer would try to use it as an excuse to get out of performing the tsb. OR am I thinking like a GM owner? LMAO!!
The dealership I purchased from (Tynan's Nissan) works hard to please, the service is good and fast...albeit EXPENSIVE.
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I'm sorry to hear about all of the problems with your trucks. I have owned a Titan X-Cab SE Towing and Rockford Fosgate package for a year now and have about 15000 miles. I have not had any problems other than a small bubble in the spray in bedliner. My truck has been driven hard and I haven't seen any problems that any of you speak of. Yesterday I yanked a old mail jeep that was six inches sunken into the ground out and towed it to a new location with no problems. I am a huge fan of this truck and I want people to get a feel of everyone's opinion so I thought I would write in. I do suggest as with any vehicle to thoroughly inspect the vehicle and test drive it before purchasing. Anyone on this forum reading other peoples experiences are already on the right track to making an educated decision. I personally believe that the dealership has alot to do with buying a good vehicle. I wouldn't suggest giving up on getting a Titan because of a poor dealership experience or one poor example of this new truck. If your home town is anything like mine there is another Nissan dealer within a half hour drive so go check them out as well. Good luck and keep writing in.
Lurker Dirk
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The tonneau cover doesn't make any difference in your MPG because the bed is not that long.
On an 8 ft box your would maybe be talking 1 more MPG (at least my past experiences have shown that gain.) Don't plan on seeing anything close to 20 MPG if you are getting a 4x4. The Titan runs
fine on regular unleaded. It does NOT require premium. I have an SE 4x4 with big tow, off road and the extra utility bed package. My initial MPG was 13.5, however, now that I am at 5k it has improved to approx 15MPG. My driving is 50% stop/go, 50% highway. Some have been getting a little better MPG, some worse. The truck has plenty of giddy yup, tons of torque and has hauled full loads of green oak firewood for me and still has plenty left. When you stomp this baby you better have your seatbelt fastened.
The new Titan I have now, an LE CC 4x4 lost the front end at 4800 miles, was gone for a month waiting on parts, got it back March 8th, had it back 3 days put 1000 miles on it and lost the rearend. The rearend went out when we were towing our new TT home. However, I think the rearend was going well before then just comparing how the truck acts now vs before.
That said I haven't had any problems in the past 2000 miles since the rearend was replaced. Nissan has an updated front diff and an updated rear diff out for the trucks. When one goes they replace the whole entire axle, diff, everything.
I wouldn't worry too much about it, just be careful not to overload the truck and use tow/haul mode if towing more than 2000 lbs.
Thanks for your input.
Mfillers
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I haven't noticed any difference in speed or mileage between the 2 sizes.
My first impression of this truck have been awesome. It pulls like a beast and sounds as good. Reading the posted notes and edmunds review it looks as if I could be in for trouble ahead: I would like to know if there is a percentage of people out there who own a titan that is relatively trouble free. I am planning to drive this thing on a 2000 mile trip and don't want to have to rely on some brake shop in Bum Funked Egypt to fix it? Is there anyone who know if you can identify the vehicles by VIN that are likely to have the brake or tranny troubles ?
I purchased my Nissan because of Nissan's reputation and value. I rarely tow anything over 4000 lbs and probably should have purchased a frontier, but the superior styling and performance of this monster won me over.
I would appreciate any suggestions and or experiences anyone would like to share before I leave for my trip. Please spare me the buy or ford or chevy lectures. My last Nissan truck had 270,000 miles on it when I sold it to a kid.
It doesn't mean that because some of us are willing to speak honestly about the problems, that we don't like it. Everyone that I know loves theirs, and that includes me.
I am not brand loyal, so telling you what's wrong with it is no problem for me. There are plenty of others to tell you about what's right.
Simply put, the Titan is very solid overall, great engine and transmission, very solid chassis frame and running gear, very good convenience features and cargo utility. It has excellent feel for the driver who enjoys communicative feedback from the steering wheel, perfectly weighted steering, nice and sporty, eager throttle response, smooth shifting, hard braking, and safety features galore including side curtain air bags, vehicle dynamic control, locking rear axle to name a few.
The bad side, is fuel economy on the low end of the range, weak payload ratings, interior rattles, and warping brake rotors.
That's just what it is. You may be perfectly happy to accept those shortcomings. Nissan has come up with several TSBs to address the brake problem. And the rattles are minor and fixable.
My truck became very satisfying after fixing the rattles and brakes, so far remaining that way. But that won't keep me from voicing the truth when brand loyalists trumpet the Titan as the second coming of the Messiah, which it is not. But I would agree that it's more fun than any of the other trucks out there, and just as reliable, (at least). Doesn't matter what brand you pick, you can find plenty to find wrong about them, often the same complaints, rattles, brakes, O2 sensors etc.
#588 off the line...
I too am having trouble with the brakes - soon to be fixed,
and the rattles and such (driving on a washboard road doesn't help)
but i have had no unexplained trouble - brakes and noises aside,
and I will say, it has held up VERY well.
take care
tony
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I would expect anyone could purchase this cover for the same or even less. The install was easy but it will be a week until I know if it changed the MPG as I have been doing some hauling, I don't think it would be an accurate to make a comparison on mpg yet. I have noticed that I get almost zero lag when I accelerate. I discovered that they are using the same air box for most of there vehicles. My filter will fit almost all nissan cars. I don't really understand the mechanics of an engine but wonder if the air-box on a titan should be the same size as the one on a sentra?
My initial impressions of the K and N filter are good based good. If anything the cover looks great on and can easily been installed in 1 hour by one person.