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Appears they need different BRAKE Pads?
If anyone has been able to get a true fix, could you let me know what was done.
THANKS.
My car was just recently inspected by factory reps (a Technical Specialist and a Field Quality Support Senior Engineer). They looked over the problem and instructed the dealership to install the modified clip and chamfer the pads on all four brakes. The dealership informed me that this is a temporary repair and there is a very good chance that the moan will return. What is troubling is the note that the factory reps put on the repair order:
"Goodwill. This repair does not fall under the guidelines of the new car warranty on your vehicle. This repair was done for customer satisfaction only."
Thanks,
Martin
I had to leave my car at the dealership overnight for the service department to acknowledge the problem. It was evidently insufficient that they had received several similar complaints. They must think that the owners want there to be problems! The solution was that they "tightened" the connection. Now all seems well.
My "free" loaner was a bottom-of-the-line Ford Focus with AT. Makes me concerned about my future service visits.
Also, anyone out there having a moonroof seal problem? I've gone through three of them in the last 13 months - they tend to pop off the rear edge/corners and eventually tear.
Yep. Call Milwaukee home. You are going to have a blast at UW Madison! Madison is ranked top 5 nationally as a great place to live. UW is also ranked top 5 party school. Good? Bad? Depends on your party attitude. Academically ranked as a top notch school also.
I take it you're not from the snowbelt by your weather question. Just have to get used to it. Not that much snow on the ground , but we keep getting the little 1" dustings, so the salt trucks are ruthless.
Too bad you weren't here last year. The Harley Davidson 100 Anniversary party was a once in a life time bash. Milwaukee was a city under siege!
Beware of your first Halloween in Madison! 50,000 crazies on State Street! Bring lots of beads!
Come to Milwaukee last week of June/ First week of July. SUMMERFEST BABY ! 100,000 on the lake with some great music (15 stages).
Remember! Your parents worked hard for that educational money. Don't let them down !
Back to Mazda!
Hope your 6 ends up being clean. Your right in saying the rebates are getting better. Starting to warm up here (The avg. daily temp is up to 32). YEE HAA!!! Time to start looking for a new ride. Mazda6? Well just have to see about that.
P.S. If you get arrested for the result of using those beads. I will deny everything!
Sounds like it's coming from the front, but not sure. Seems to have nothing to do with the brake; the brake is usually never engaged. It's not rust, either. Don't think it has anything to do with the clutch, because sometimes the clutch is partially engaged and sometimes it's all the way in.... help!!
Yes, the installation of the Rotex pads as well as my own application of CRC brake squeal eliminator has pretty much stopped the problem. I have a bit of a squeal first thing in the morning-it usually goes away after the first stop, several stops required in very cold weather. Also if the car has been sitting and the brakes are wet it takes a couple of stops, then silence. Just as good as the squeal being gone is the fact that the dust has been eliminated.
When I applied the CRC reducer to the backs of the pads I saw and removed the "clips". How anyone thought that those would stop the squeal I can't imagine. I could have made sturdier clips from a coat hanger. I trashed them.
This week I'm taking my car in for the fuel tank ring recall. I am still having the clutch judder problem. I know that earlier protege's have had the same problem to the point of a TSB being issued to fix the clutch. I want to be armed with information when I go to the dealer. Does anyone know if the pro and the 6 share any of the same clutch components. Specifically I need to know if the clutch cover/pressure plate share to same part numbers. (I have the 6i) If they do I can't imagine any argument about having the same TSB cover the 6.
I (surprise) can not duplicate the problem when I have the car at the dealer. I'm to the point where I just feel like shelling out the $$ myself to fix it. The factory rep extended the warranty on the clutch to 75,000 mi since I was having the problem. That's great, but alas it doesn't solve the problem. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
jstandefer-I believe that some time ago you had given me some information on this, can you help with what I'm asking for here??
If I'm not satisified after this week I'll call Mazda and open up a case. I feel that it's horrible that I had to pay for aftermarket brake pads to fix a problem that should have been handled by Mazda. After numerous trips to the dealer for the brakes (4-5) and the service manager finally saying "Well, that must be how they're desinged" (in other words, I can't fix it and I give up) I take the problem into my own hands and $75.00 and an hour of turning wrenches later all is well. I'm not that much of a motor head that I'm going to purchase and replace my own clutch, but I feel that Mazda should do that for me. The saga goes on...
Otherwise the car is pretty perfect.
There is still no permanent resolution for the moaning brakes. I am not sure what Mazda is going to do about it, but they are working on it. However, they are starting to point out that once you have passed the adjustment period (12 mos/12,000 miles), the brakes are no longer covered for problems such as this, which is "cosmetic" and does not affect the operation and safety of the braking system. And, this is not something that is covered by any lemon law, since the problem is not substantial and does affect the overall operation or safety of the vehicle.
Cory Fairbanks Mazda in Longwood, FL did a very poor job on the rust/stain repair. I can't detect any seam sealer. It looks like they took some touch up paint and slopped it on. I can still easily see several areas of "stain" that they missed. Also, the brakes still moan when pulling into a parking space. Can't wait for the survey and the follow up call to let them know just how unhappy I am.
Otherwise, it is still a blast to drive this car!!!
1.) From day 1 I had the slight pull to the right alignment problem.
2.) At 4K miles, first oil change.
3.) At 10K miles, second oil change and Tire rotation. The tire rotation seemed to fix the pull to the right. Also they re-flashed the ECM. The car seems to be peppier!
4.) Also around this time, the Check Engine light came on. Turns out the Camshaft Position Sensor and Knock sensor was bad. Both replaced.
5.) To make matters worse, there was a big scratch on the back bumper that I found out about when I picked up the car. It's back in the body shop.
Today, I got the recall for fuel odor problems. I have not yet experienced problems there, but will have it fixed. I have not seen any staining problems.
So far, I have had the dealer provided rental car for two weeks. They provided a 2004 Hyundai Sonata. Not exactly my favorite, but it's ok.
Anyone else here had to replace a crankshaft position sensor or knock sensor on their cars?
all records of service go to Mazda for documentation, or does it stay at those respective dealers?
I am asking because I needed some emergency work done to my car and it came from a dealer that I don't really want to go back to in the future. I'd rather go to the dealer where I bought the car. Even though I will keep all the paperwork
in a file, will Mazda know about any warranty work that is done to the vehicle?
However, any Mazda dealership can pull up a record of all warranty work performed, no matter what dealership performed the work.
Went to the dealer and hashed out a deal my wife would be happy with today (critical). Take delivery Friday.
2004S Glacier Silver,1SE Sports Package,Sports Grille,Automatic(Wife has to drive it also),Auto Dim Mirror W/compass,Thats it-no more.
Payed $21963.00($100.00 over invoice). Did I do O.K.? Oh well to late now.
My hope is I will never post a negative word about my new baby. My fingers are crossed !!!
Come on Friday ! I feel like a 4 year old three days before Christmas !
Welcome to the club-see my posts #785, 826, and 925. As I said in one of those posts-After 4-5 trips to the dealer (new clips, repositioned guard, anti squeal applied, ground pad edges) I felt enough was enough. To this day I have just a little bit of squeal when the pads are cold, other than that-silence. I ordered my Rotex pads from brake world.com. You may be better off to do the same thing. Good luck.
I took the vehicle to my local dealer this morning for an oil change and to inspect the fuel tank lock ring. When I showed them the fraying and pilling, they offered to correct the problem by "shaving" away the frays and pills. I was told that the fraying and pilling is normal for this type of fabric and that Nissan vehicles show the same condition. What a joke. Needless to say, I told them to leave the cloth as is. I now have an appointment with the Mazda regional technical rep. We'll see what happens.
When the service writer told me that this was "typical", I elevated the problem to the service manager and insisted that he make an appointment for me with the Mazda rep. Unfortunately this may take awhile because the rep. only visits the dealership about once every six weeks and his last visit was in mid February.
I also sent a customer feedback email from the Mazda- North America website. Today I got the typical "you're the only one with the problem" reponse stating:
"I am not familiar with any problems with our cloth seats on our MAZDA6. Please understand if there was a major problem with our vehicle, either the government would put out a recall or Mazda would issue a Special Service Program (SSP). Please understand recalls and SSPs are VIN specific. At this time, I am not familiar with any recalls or SSPs for cloth seats. I will forward your comments to our Product Planning Department to ensure they know exactly what our customers are saying about our vehicles."
Other than this very noticeable and irritating problem, I'm very happen with the car.
Congratulations! Looks like you got a very good deal! The 6s is a blast to drive!
Hope you got leather instead of cloth. That cloth frays and pills like a cheap sweater.
I have been reading about the Mazda 6 for about 9 months now. Hundreds of posts. Trying to make an informed purchase. The problems that are showing up in the Mazda 6 are not any different than any other car. They all have there own problems. The biggest worry I have is that the rust-stain problem has not been resolved at the factory. I have not read one post yet from an owner with a build date later than 7/22/03 with this problem. Not enough time on these cars yet ? We will see.
What made up my mind to take a chance, was the butt kick'n look and drivability of this car.
There is not a car out there that (In my mind) has combined the sporty look and backs it up with pretty good performance.
The Accord and Camry to me look like my dad should be driving them(He is 80). The other players in this class can not match the price.
Time will tell how well the Mazda 6 is built. But in the mean time I will enjoy getting looks from all the millions of Accord,Camry,and Grand Am owners as I drive buy.
Johnny's Mazda 6 ROCKS !!!
I gave it the bigtime once over. To this point I have inspected seven 6's and I have to say the paint job on this car is tight. I looked in every nook and cranny on this car. Build date 2/04. The 6 they had in the show room was a 10/03 build and you could see the lack of paint in the sash area. The factory must have made the corrections in the paint dept. As I said in my other post, I guess time will tell if this problem has been resolved.
Took it for a joy ride on some winding roads. Had to take it easy because of the break in, but I got a pretty good feel for the car. WOW ! Took a pretty sharp turn and I thought I was doing around 40. Speedometer said 55. WOW !
Mazda has taken a step in the right direction.
I just hope they stand by their product for the few that have had problems,so you can get back to enjoying the 6 as it should be.
Come on 500 miles !!! ZOOM ZOOM
1. About a week after i got my car my wife went to pull down her sun visor, and the part the visor clamps into came out with thi visor. I thought no big deal. Nobody will ever know.
2. Ckeck engine light comes on for the first time. I brought it to the dealership and they fixed it. They said I didnt tighten the gas cap enough. So I made sure not to do it again. But!!! Again and again the C.E.L kept coming on, and i know i was tightening the cap enough.
So by now i was ready for my first oil change.
3. One morning i start my car to go to town and the engine was making noise when i turned steering wheel. I take it to dealership and they said power steering hose busted. fixed that.
4. Receive four recalls in a period of about five months as my C.E.L. problem continues. No rust spots or stains in doors but took it it anyway. No gas smell either. They said they didnt know about the shifting situation when in manual(going from 4-50). but I had to be getting on the gas and going at least 90mph. lol racing a prelude:)
5. CHRISTMAS DAY. I was driving to baton rouge (90 miles away) when i stopped at a red light. when it turned green i went to go but car did not want to go into 2nd. Check engine light started flashing and i pulled over. Popped hood and engine was knocking harded the a jahovas witness on speed. Called wrecker service and they brought it to mazda.
Manufacturer said right side of engine got so hot that it melted the converters and warped one of the heads. That was said after a month of me in mitshubishi lancer. Then they tried to replace just the head and that didnt work. So they had to order me a new motor. They got the motor in except for the head gasket. All in all they had my car for 56 days.(HELL ON EARTH)
I just got my car back on the 20th of feb. I love my car. I never want to get rid of it, BUT!!! its going to the curb. Mazda has lost a customer and has received my papers. And i think that mazda needs to open up a fruit stand because they have the best looking lemons on the market.
That said, I prefer the programming on XM radio and will install the new Delphi (Roady I think) that has the ability to change display colors - one of them is quite close to the stock colors.
I'd attribute it in equal parts to
- break-in, as the parts seat, they seem to mesh together better and offer less resistance
- synthetic oil - has made the car more rev happy, more easily, providing a bit of an illusion in increase low-end torque, although the (resulting) improved driveability implies an improvement in the overall condition, nonetheless
Could you let me know where you got this info. and who you spoke to or any applicable #'s.
Thank in advance