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Cadillac Fleetwood
Anyone else here have a Fleetwood, specifically the rare 1993-1996 models?
We have a 1992 Buick Roadmaster Ltd. and just bought a matching 1993 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham that we'll be picking up next weekend. As I said, these things are rare (it was hard to find the right one...really hard!), but I wanted to see if anyone on Edmunds had one and maybe we could start sharing information here, including pictures!
We have a 1992 Buick Roadmaster Ltd. and just bought a matching 1993 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham that we'll be picking up next weekend. As I said, these things are rare (it was hard to find the right one...really hard!), but I wanted to see if anyone on Edmunds had one and maybe we could start sharing information here, including pictures!
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Nothing is wrong with it either and it has several new parts. The man we bought it from used to take it to the Caddy dealer twice a year for a check-up and told them to replace or fix anything that needed it. After looking it over, we're having two minor things fixed tomorrow. The front brake pads will be replaced, and a slight oil leak around the seal of the oil cooler will be fixed.
I'll post pictures soon!
Any ideas?
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Our Fleetwood has every option except for the sunroof, and now I guess RKE, but I'm not exactly sure. What's odd about ours is that it was a custom built factory order by an older gentlemen in Zyphr (sp?) Hills, Florida. He ordered it late in the '93 model year, and as such, it is a June 1993 build. When you look up production #'s, it lists around 29,500 or so for the first year, but ours is a # around 30,000. I think it was one of the last, just before the new '94s came out. His name is still on a gold Cadillac plaque on the center of the dash just above the radio, and says "Built Especially For:" and then his name.
His son in Bethesda, MD then got the car in 1997, and had it ever since. We just had it in the shop today, and had the front brake pads replaced and an oil leak around the oil cooler fixed by replacing the seal. Total cost was $170 for both AND labor--not bad at all. Now everything is just about perfect!
I look forward to sahring stories with you over time, and that we get another few people on here!
I'm still going to go out and look for the wire for the RKE, but I think it never had it as an option. Why, I have no idea. The original owner went to the trouble of custom ordering the car late in the '93 model year, getting everything but the sunroof, trailering package, full-size spare, and possibly RKE. Plus, he ordered a custom red interior, which I have yet to see on another Fleetwood, but probably is out there on more of them.
Our car had the mini spare when we bought it, just like our Roadmaster, but we've since changed that. My father hates mini spares and will not use them, so he saved two chrome wheels and whitewalls from the '79 GMC van he traded for the Buick, using one for the spare in each car. Now each has a full-size spare. It takes up more room and is heavier, but I feel better knowing there's a real wheel & tire in there if needed.
Our car's vin # is 1G60W5278PR730299, and, as such, was number 30,299 produced in June of 1993, one of the last for the model year. I guess this is better than it being one of the first built!
We just took it on a relatively long road trip yesterday, 150 miles each way on the highway. It was awesome! I'm used to cruising in our 2002 Avalanche, but the Fleetwood was made for the highway! Even more shocking is how fast and turbine-smooth the car is. I thought for having the "old" 350 before they put in the LT1, but it really zings! It pulls like a freight train and is sikly smooth and silent all the way. The only thing I don't like is how it has more road noise than our Roadmaster. We think it's the tires. They're about 2/3rd's worn, Pinnacle Atlas whitewalls, and seem to be quite noisy on the highway and quite thumpy. I think they're kind of stiff and the tread pattern isn't all that quiet. Not that it is nearly as loud as our 2000 Chrysler 300M that we got rid of, but it should be quieter, at least road noise wise.
We're going to try and get at least another half to full year out of them and then buy a full new set. What do you have on yours?
Oh, and I forgot to mention. Back in April, my father started looking for a car to replace his '79 GMC conversion van that was on it's last legs. He wanted a '93 or newer Fleetwood then, but coulcn't find any. On a whim, when he was out car shopping, he remembered a small used car dealer that usually had Caddy's and Buicks. Pulled in there, and found the Roadmaster. Bought it the next week and loved it since. Then, after a few weeks, we saw a dark cherry Fleetwood while out shopping and I said "I'd drive that". Suprisingly, he said "Maybe we'll trade the Chevelle for one". Within two days, we had the '69 Chevelle listed for sale, and started looking for Fleetwoods. The first three we looked at were all black, and each one was in worse condition than the one before--the last two were really ripped up. Then we found this one and cut a check on the spot for only $4,500.
It's meant to be my first car of sorts to use to get to school, but is still my fathers in the end. Oh well, who could complain about driving a loaded Caddy to high school and not having to spend a cent...?!
About the only way I'll be able to get RKE now is to have an alarm system installed. Someone else on a Cadillac forum will sell me one for $40 new in box, but I'd have to have it installed. That only presents a problem the car is technically my fathers and he DOES NOT want me to touch anything other than cosmetic.
"Paying $4500 for a 93 Fleetwood Brougham borders on being criminal."
I know! This car is THAT good too! When the guy told us someone else wanted to look at it that day, we knew we better give him a check right then and there before going home because the car would be gone. He listed it Friday for $4,750, and we bought it Sunday morning for $4,500. Both the Fleetwood and our Roadmaster were awesome deals. I actually want to buy another one (preferably a '95-'96) in a couple of years.
I don't know what the tires are on the car now. There are two words on them: "Pinnacle" and "Atlas". I don't know which is the brand. Either way, their quite worn, the passenger side ones have black scuffs, and they're kind of noisy. They're 235-70-15, but we're going to put 235-75-15's on, since they fill the wheel well in more and that's whats on our Buick, and we like them. I want to get Yokohama Avid Tourings (great ratings, 80k warranty, and only $54 at Tire Rack), but my father wants to buy something from someone local for added convenience. I don't know what we'll end up with.
Do you have any digital pictures of your car? I'd like to see it! I still have a lot more to share with you, so we'll surely keep this thread alive!
Do the 75's fit properly? The only thing we could think of is that they might be a little tight in the rear. They'll fit, but just be tight. Otherwise, a wider sidewall can only help with the ride.
I'll just have to stick with the darn old keys for now. I can't do anything about it, because it's not exactly my name on the title. More and more, I'm thinking about buying another Fleetwood or Roadmaster (a third!) just for myself. I'd love to find one cheap that needed a few things (we've seen several like this; ours was cheap but needed nothing!). We'll see what happens. I'm liking our 2002 Chevy Avalanche less and less now, which is strange because it used to be my favorite out of everything we've had...these old Roadmasters and Fleetwoods are terrific!
"I always look foreward to driving the big float."
So do I!!! I'm still trying to look for reasons to drive it whenever I can (I'll get to start driving it to high school in a few weeks...), I just don't want to put many miles on it! Right now it's at 89,150 but I just don't want it to hit 90k yet! I know it will sometime, but for some reason, I just want to baby and pamper this car to death--more so than even our flawless black Avalanche. I guess that's what makes it a Cadillac!
Also, thanks for the info. on the tires, as we hope to get a new set of white walls in the bigger size sometime next spring or summer. Not that we like the current Pinnacle's all that much, but they still have quite a bit of tread left.
I just need to find a used factory radio from another Fleetwood, though. The radio function works terrific, but the cassette player just goes forward, back, forward, back, and then ejects a tape. I don't know if it's broken or just dirty. I'd love to find one with the CD and cassette player, or just fix this one. Our Roadmasters cassette player and radio work awesome, but rarely get used--of course!
"I have been tempted to look for a cheap 93-96 Fleetwood to store in my barn just for spare parts."
Good idea! Not that these silky tanks of Cadillac beauty ever break, but having some spare pieces can't hurt.
I'll be back soon...
What's to complain about...getting to take a huge, loaded to the max, gorgeous Cadillac to high school everyday!? My only worry is that I get assigned a parking spot easy to manuever in and out of, and not crowded with everyone else. This is one big Caddy after all!
Oh, and I have been thinking about getting a shop manual, just not sure that I'd ever need it. Sure, it'd be nice to know a few hundred things about the car, but I really don't need any of it. Maybe some day in the future, just not now.
$9600 for a '95? That really doesn't sound bad at all, if it's maintained as well as it sounds, and taking into account that it's a pretty much bullet proof car, from a reliability standpoint. I absolutely love our all white beauty with special red leather interior and get looks when I take it out for a drive. I wish it had the LT1 like yours, as well as the bigger mirrors (you can't see anything out of the tiny little ones on both of our cars!). But, as is, the old 350 does quite well and is virtually silent, not to mention always gets around 25MPG.
What colors is it? What options does it have? Do you have any pics? I love these big GM cars (except for the cheap-o Caprice--yuck!), especially the Fleetwood! We saw some very nasty, beat up ones while searching for one, but are still amazed at the condition of the white '93 we found with 88k miles for only $4500! It was a special order car by an older gentlemen near Tampa Florida where it spent half of its life before coming to the man's son in Bethesda, MD. We bought it from him last month.
All in all, you didn't get screwed at all IMO, because a '95 Fleetwood Brougham with 63k and in immaculate condition is well worth $9600. Again, welcome and I can't wait to hear more about your Caddy!
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Hmm, I'll have to check on this one!
Just the other day someone was talking about the car at school (I drive it there daily) and said it had to have been a '98 or '99! No one believes it's a 1993 model year car! It's just so beautiful and timeless, I want to build it its own room, and preserve it forever (taking it out for cruises on sunny days of course!).
I'd like a few opinions...The vinyl roof is in need of replacement. I'm teetering on the fence whether to replace or peel (& paint if necessary). My past history with these tops (on GM products) say they like to rust from underneath. The trim at the RR pillar is already loose (I suspect rust).
Thanks for the help.
Larger wheels would be good to do and relatively cheap. Mine are black walls, the car looks like a Caddy-Impala.
I was considering painting the lower chromed molding and perhaps the bumpers to match the rest of the car. Mine's black on black.
Keep watch on the hood. The paint on the hood is the first to go. Mine has very fine cracks in the clear coat.
After 10 years the cars arn't antiques so the value hasn't started rising. But you couldn't ask for a more comfortable, imposing, reliable car! The driveline is used in police crusers and taxi cabs. Strong! I say go and get it! The price is right! Condition is everything for this puppy!
Mine is not for sale - what do you think it is worth?
Keep an eye on the rear wheel bearings - if they go bad they take the axle shafts with them. So replace before they break. The spark plug wires should be changed before 100k miles also the water pump. If the pump leaks it gets into the distributer and frys it. Very expensive.
Thanks in advance
What is true is that pumping the gas pedal will not cause flooding.
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