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vibrations,that were posting here about a month ago or so have had any luck in solving this problem.I know alot of you were able to have gm buy the trucks back after several weeks and months of turmoil.I personaly have not heard yet of a service bulletin being issued to solve it.
rims,tires,trans,drive shaft,drive angle,steering
shaft,rigid frame,rear end,rear springs,who knows
are all these culprits???
Also standby for other internet sources.... John
I should note though I am not going to keep the truck regardless. I have on order a 2500 class truck to replace this vehicle, due to the problem encountered with this truck initially. Planned to keep this truck ten years. Trust is not there the truck can make it. Too bad too, it is a great truck otherwise.
It is a Silverado 1500/ Reg Cab/ Long Bed/ 5.3/ Auto/ 4X4-Z-71/ 3.73,Locking Differential. Will be replace with 2500 class with basically the same options except the 6.0 will be there as well as HD trans and will come with 3.73 gear instead of 4.10 which I think is standard on the 2500 series.
what should be a softer ride in the 1500 series??
Point two is my coffee does stay in the cup now, which is what prompted me to take it in the first place. I have to believe the tires were bad after finally getting a good set installed to the truck. So far the vibration has not gotten any worse and only time will tell if it comes back or not.Anyway, this is my last post for now, the truck is fine and I think the trucks rolling off the line today do not have the vibration as the number of complaints seem to be dwindling to nothing here on this posting
I have been following the posts regarding the problems experienced by many with the new 99/00 Silverado trucks. Since I had a new one on order, I was to say the least a little nervous as to what to expect.
I recently (Dec.8.1999) took delivery of my truck.
It is a 1500 Series, 4x4 Autotrac, reg cab, L.S. Trim, 5.3, locking diff, Factory aluminum rims, Wrangler tires, with the H.D trailering pkg.
So far the truck has been excellent. No shakes or vibrations at any speed.
The truck was built in Pontiac Michigan during the week of Nov. 15/99. Being from Canada, the thing had a sticker price of over $38000 which is kinda scary when I see see the prices the U.S. boys are quoting for their units. Oh well, if you consider the exchange rate it doesn't seem too bad, although it seems to take just as long to come up with that kind of coin.
Anyway, hopefully G.M. has got their act together and whatever the problems were, most have been sorted out.
I thought it a good idea to post at this sight to give any other potential buyers some peace of mind, and not to assume all Chev/GM pickups have the same problems. (Hopefully I don't eat these words later)
I have seen a faulty Anti-Drain back valve in the oil filter cause an engine Knock for a few seconds after startup.
Did it do it everytime you started the truck? Cold Or Hot?
SteveO
GM knows what is causing our problems. I bet it is something that cannot be fixed cheap, like the frame problems we heard about early on. I know of a body shop that has checked some trucks and claims the rear frame was bent out of shape, and it was not due to hauling too much weight. Manufac problem? Who knows. But I'll guarantee Chevy is not going to fix a problem that would cost them that much.
Glad your truck is smoother, and good luck when you replace the tires. Stop back in to forum if you bad vibs come back.
When they buy them back, they don't destroy them, they put them on the lot as a used vehicles, and probably recoupe most if not all of their money. If the problem was something bad, like a bent frame, it would cost them a few thousand dollars per truck to fix. As soon as word got out that there was a fix, they would have to do it for a bunch of trucks already on the road who's owners reported problems, but just gave up on getting the problem fixed. In my opinion, Chevy has been stalling people with this tire swapping/balancing business until the consumers have tired of taking their trucks back. Owners just resign themselves to the fact that the truck is never going to be right and give up. I'm sure that along with that resignation is a decision that GM will not be in the running for their next truck purchase, which is how it should be.
I used to be a GM fan, but these experiences are indicative of a lack of integrity which we should not tolerate.
Just my two cents worth, I don't have my truck yet so I'm crossing my fingers that I won't experience these types of problems.
Ray T.
Ray T.
Roger
I've always owned GM products, but this is my last GM vehicle. I've never owned a vehicle that I had to take to the service department 22 times for the same problem. Never! I'm going to trade this truck as soon as I can break even.
I can't speak for others who write on this topic, but I think that your opinion has been marginalized due to your lack of putting your name behind your opinions!
It's rather cowardly to hide behind anonymous!
Regarding taking your truck back to dealer 22 times for same problem ! Does the state you live in have what's known as the "Lemon Law" ? If problem is directly related to driveablity of vehicle then this would be covered by that law here in N.Y. (personal experience w/1986 GM pick-up). As long as you have kept all the service tickets (documentation) you should have no trouble persuing it this way if dealership is unwilling to resolve.
I would seek relief that way myself.
Just my opinion.............
Ray T.
Later ~~~~ vetzs
Also - you must understand this point - if they sell the truck it would still be under warranty. If the truck was so bad that you forced a buy back (say from vibrations) GM would still be on the hook for fixing the problem. They could elect to sell the truck without a warranty -but that would have to be at a greatly reduced price. How much of a discount would you need to buy a 3 month old truck with 3,000 miles on it if the warranty was voided.
To think GM makes more $$ buying its trucks back VS fixing the problem just does not add up to me.. I am just glad my truck has been near perfect - 7,500 miles and no real problems..
Anyway, I have nothing to be anonymous about: I have a large file with GM, I started this post as well as others, and I'm also in the middle of Lemon Law situation with my state, GM, BBB, and the media. I've also e-mailed numerous people on this forum with possible explanations of their problems because they have tried every thing know to fix my problem. Everytime I think they got it resolved, it comes back.
It's easy for people to make remarks here that do not have the problem. I opened the topic for people with the problem, not people without the problem. Until you've been 22 times to the dealer (1 hour each way) and wasted countless days off work, you can't imagine the frustration. Especially went I traded a perfectly good truck for this piece of junk that I got for 26K.
Good luck to everyone on this site and their truck problems ....Sorry for the mistake afs11, I will not post again. John
ps;I`d post whatever I wanted to however I chose to if I were you.(croct)
You have to realize that a lot of people don't want to hear bad news and hope the quality problems will disappear if they simply deny they exist. Remember those three famous monkeys, hear no evil,see no evil, say no evil. People are tired of waiting to get orders, nervous about spending big bucks for a crapshoot and hoping that they do not have to walk in your shoes.
Letters to GM will probably go unanswered since I have had NO return mail from GM regarding my written complaints with ordering process.(both their General Manager & North American President were contacted)
Keep up the fight, we all get frustrated and it obviously shows in our posting's sometimes, right?
Ray T.
I chose not to pursue the lemon law on this as I am ordering a 2500 truck to replace this vehicle, but have no idea when this will be built.
I check this posting often and frequently and feel you should too as well. We are all in this together so please do not bail because of a few crude remarks.
pmatt
P.S. thanks for support......and you can count on me to help solve this vibration problem.
al2: I agree 100% and you can count on the pressure..... Even when I get my problem resolved, which will probably be soon, I will still follow the subject. I'm glad some folks are having good luck with their trucks--I did with my other GM truck, but this problem is wide spread, unlike what some people think. I believe GM has the cure (at factory) and is correcting the problem with the newer models.
rayt2: Lemon Law here is 12 month/12,000 miles. If the problem was noted before 12,000 then the mileage doesn't matter as long as the Lemon Law (certified) letter was sent before the 12,000. I'm at 8300 miles now. Sorry for frustration post....need to drink more wine before I write (like now).
samrabbit: I thought my truck was OK too. It is except the towing part. The truck rode perfectly with the new rims and tires. I even took the wife out and celebrated the occasion. However, when I hooked up the ATV, it vibrated terribly. I borrowed trailers from friends to make sure it wasn't my trailer, but the problem persisted. I'm lost now and I don't have a clue what it could be now, neither does the dealer. I think GM is about ready to buy it back....what do I do then? Buy Dodge or Ford? Don't think so.
Sorry about last post..and sorry about this long post. Good luck ..... John
I went thru it with my 86 1/2 ton 2wd, but when all was said & done I turned around & ordered the 88 Ext. Cab 2wd 4.3 . I had that truck up until Sept. 99 when I sold it with 128,000 on ticker.
I didn't hold it against GM just wanted the product that worked properly. They bought back the 86 I ordered the 88. No regrets
my two cents
Ray T.
Also own a 99 Yukon but it does not act that way,Dont know if it has to do with 4 wheel disc brakes.
now it is the atty turn.....
if it was designed to vibrate, then why is it not in the product brochure...(the factory rep. was stupid enough to put it in writing and signed it.)
Sewell Chevrolet, N.O.LA SUCKS!!!!!!
Chevrolet response that vibration is caused by empty box load driving is interesting. I have read several reviews that commented on the "jumpy ride" of the Silverado when driven with an empty box. Aftermarket suppliers advertise that air springs will provide a smooth ride both empty and loaded. I wonder if anyone has installed airsprings front and rear on a new Silverado yet?
texan4: I can't believe you got the e-mail....that sounds like typical GM BS. But at least they admitted the problem.
Got a feeling I'll hear something tomor. on my vibration repurchase. Some GM rep. has been calling my work looking for me. BBB auto line and Attorney General office has notified them regarding my case..... will let everyone know....
John
I'm glad you fixed the problem you had with the cookies. I don't understand why you don't want to post anymore?
I hope that your truck problems can be resolved to your satifaction.
You stated that I should find out more facts....well, I make sure that everything is activiated before I post!!!
Sorry if I hit a raw nerve. Good Luck in the future.
afs
What do you think ????
Ray T.
Another interesting point: The service manager tells me that he has other customers with the same vibration problems (1999 and 2000 models) and he's doing the same thing for them (new tires, rims, tranmissions, driveshafts, shims, leaf springs, etc.) This is a small dealership that probably sells about four (4) trucks a month, if that. My point is..... not everyone having the problems are making it to the internet. I think the problem is wide spread. I also think the problem is not isolated to one factor.
However, I think GM will figure this thing out and correct soon. Don't know how they'll treat customers with older models that still vibrate if the fix is too costly.
John