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Thanks in advance. This is a great group.
Since you have a sedan, you wouldn't have the Maxx-specific complaint others have which is covered by a TSB.
I agree with your service advisor to give it a little more time (although you say when you checked the gas cap, it seemed tight). The manual is a little too optimistic about number of starts because that would only happen if each start was done under conditions where the vehicle would run another diagnostic check.
That check won't occur every ignition cycle unless certain conditions are met:
Ones somewhat under your control: Fuel level between 15-85%, coolant temperature <86 deg F and underhood air temp between 40 and 86 deg F.
Basically test will only run if the vehicle has cooled down overnight and fuel tank isn't too empty or too full. So filling the tank after message first came on prevented the test from running for a while until fuel level dropped below 85% (which is somewhere between 7/8 and 3/4).
If the test fails twice in a row you will see the Check Engine Light turn on - has that happened? It takes 3 passes in a row for the message to turn off (I think).
Hope that helps
If the first thing then I hate to ask this but do you have more then key that you are using?
If it is turning and just not cranking, if you leave the ignition key in RUN do you see the security telltale staying illuminated - which means you are in a THEFT condition?
The key will not physically turn.
The GM Dealer I took my Maxx to had gotten them all wrong (manual says 100 ftlbs - lugs on all 4 wheels ranged from 60 to 120 ftlbs). I'm hoping the warpage was "elastic" (with wheels torqued right, the rotors would then return to proper shape).
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I have an 04 Maxx LS. Had tires rotated by dealer at 6K miles. Developed brake pulsing at 9.5K miles. They refinish all 4 rotors and problem was fixed. Dealer rotated tires at 11.5K miles. The brake pulsing came back again around 15-16K miles. Will be going in for service soon and expect they will refinish the rotors again.
The TSB explains, that rotor thickness variations caused by lateral runout can be induced when uneven torque is applied to the lug nuts when tires are rotated. Pulsation resulting from excessive lateral runout usually develops within 3-10K miles. A torque wrench must be used when tightening the lug nuts when tires are rotated. If only the dealer has rotated the tires, GM must cover the problem. If tires were rotated outside of dealer, GM will not cover the repair. I will be discussing this with my service advisor as my pulsation problem developed after each tire rotation. I am concerned if they resurface the rotors again, I will be stuck paying for new rotors after the 3/36 warranty is up.
I have not had any problems with my brake rotors squeaking or with pulsation. I have 17K+ on the car and the tires do not show any noticeable wear.
I have been a loyal GM customer for 33 years, but due to chronic KNOWN problems like this, I just bought a Hyundai with 60000 mile bumper to bumper warranyt, and 100000 powertrain warranty. I like to keep my cars for a long time!
This is a chronic problem.
I won't be letting dealers rotate tires anymore. Sounds like that causes nothing but trouble with this car.
As for whether or not GM will fix my now warped rotors in time to beat the 36K mile limit, that remains to be seen.
Do you can help me about this problem ?
Since many time, it's possible to downshift or upshift with the switch. When i stop the car and i restart all return ok. But i'm very lucky... like many owner; my dealer told to me: It's the first time i see this problem..... laugh
Thanks :sick:
For those who just got their Maxxes and/or had their tires rotated, run, do not walk to your friendly auto store, get a torque wrench and make __sure__ those wheels are torqued right.
The rotors you save will be your own.
Getting near 25K miles on mine; interior trim is behaving itself, no electrical problems so far (fngrs x'ed), getting about 24 - 26 mpg for mixed freeway/in town driving, paint and trim holding up ok (have not seen rear window trim paint flaking), lots of tiny specs in windshield from our LA dust and dirt, am having real trouble getting replacement wiper blades (guess one has to replace entire blade as hardly anyone sells inserts any more - GM's inserts cost more than an entire hi-qual aftermarket blade!).).
For those that have had their front headrests swapped for new design or wind deflector installed on sunroof per TSB, did your dealers charge you, or were the parts/labor covered under warranty?
I made appt next week for service on my 04 Maxx (maint2, brake pulsing again, left pull, A/C performance check). My SA said I most likely would have to pay for headrests/deflector. He said these TSB's are informational only to offer solution for customers with complaints. He said GM does not automatically pay for all TSB work done during initial warranty period.
I have done this on another GM product. Take a screwdriver with a long shaft. Lay under the car with a flashlight and locate the hood latch. You should see the cable leading into the latch. Gently push up on the cable until the hood pops. You might want to put a little duct tape over the screwdriver blade so as to not damage the cable.
Good luck.
a few kind GM folks have also posted information here for us to refer to.
Ironically, the DEALERS often don't know what these TSB's are and may refuse to look them up or bother with them.
Another good site which I use is www.infotraxx.com. For a small fee (I believe it's 12.95/yr) you can see all current and future TSB that apply to a specific vehicle. If you add more vehicles they are 8.00 each. This site has them in PDF format and you can save them on your computer for future reference. These appear to be exact copy of what manufacturer issues and all pages are stored in a single file.
I am having a new problem with my 2000 Malibu LS that just started today. It happens when I try to start the car initially. I turn the key, and the engine cranks, but it doesn't seem to turn over. When I release the key, the there is a noise that sounds like the engine is running, but it seems like its still trying to "catch" to start up. I try to see if the engine is on by trying to rev up the engine, and it doesn't work. It has happened twice today, both times were when I had driven the car somewhere, ran an errand, and came back to the car in about 10-20 minutes to go somewhere else.
Note, this isn't the same (as far as I know, but they could be related as far as I know) as the (in)famous theft system problem (which I also have from time to time). Plan on taking it to the dealer either tomorrow or Monday. Any hints/help is appreciated so I can point the mechanics in the right direction.
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however I can not seem to find it.
Can someone tell me where to find it.
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Thanks!
6/17/2004
The dealer has now called GM and I was wondering if this has happened to any of you. I have read many of the posts with similar issues, but haven't been able to find anyone that has successfully found a solution. What will GM do?
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