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TV in the trunk!
And on 22inch wheels:
Painted Tail lights in Maine:
Who said the rear looked bad?
You are starting to get to know me bigt, and what I like. :P
Rocky
From the past to the future:
Rocky
I know mistakes have been made but things have changed. I will tell you this, today my brother had a loaner from Lexus (yes he is a commie also) and it was a new ES350 it was MRSP'ed at 38k without a nav system. It was ok but the wood sure looked and sounded like plastic to me!
God bless America and it auto manufactures!
The bottom picture begs the question "How many UAW workers does it take to drive a Lincoln off the assembly line?"
Seriously, I for one like it.
First Drive 2007 MKZ
http://www.technoride.com/article/JD%20Power%20Navigation%20Survey%20Mercury%20B- est%20and%20Worst/194054_1.aspx?CFID=1770949&CFTOKEN=18141443
The Aviator concept really looked like a Lincoln. The MKX is just a dolled up Ford with one of many alleged Lincoln-esque grills. The grill on the Aviator concept was actually more Lincoln and less AMC, but the grill of the MKX is definitely its selling point. Plus the interior is not as cheap looking as that in the Edge.
But now Lincoln has to decide on a grill direction. The waterfall is old, tired and now re-done better by Mercury. The MKS/MKZ grill thing is ok, but rather boring in this day of more in-yer-face grills. The Navi and MKX grills are yet two more different themes. If Lincoln is going to gain any traction as a luxury ride, it should be recognizable regardless of the model. You don't see BMW, Audi, Mercedes, Cadillac, Volvo, Mazda, etc., etc. using a myriad of grill themes, but rather variations on one theme.
Funny, I like the rear treatment on the X a lot. The side view, in pix, is OK but that grille just grates on me.
ANT said (and where the heck IS ANT anyway) that the thinkin at Lincoln now is waterfall grilles for cars and egg crate grilles for SUVs. How's that for thinkin?
Cant get an X or Edge til almost Xmas time now I hear. By then, all the advertising money for it will be used up and no one's even seen one yet!
From the side, the thing is "straight Edge." No way to tell the difference at a glance, unless you memorize the different wheels they use.
The reviews of both these late-to-the-party entries have been mediocre. They were supposed to be at the head of their class for acceleration, but no one counted on them being so porky for small CUVs. Handling is so-so...apparently the Lincoln has an overall better feel. The Lincoln has the better interior and is a bit quieter, as it should be. However, the Ford should have been issued with the MKX refinements and the MKX upgraded from there. The 2007 Hyundai Santa Fe is a better vehicle than the Edge as far as refinement and finish, and it costs considerably less.
The styling is tasteful, but clearly derivative and bordering on plain. They certainly are better looking as compared to CUVs in general than the dull, dull 500 is compared to its classmates--so that's a good thing. The Aviator would have been a real standout. The MKX will be lost in the crowd.
Oh, well. Lincoln looks more now like it is coming back than leaving. They still build nothing I want to buy (and certainly not the MKZ...the Milan already has AWD and will soon get the 3.5 and it is at least as attractive as the MKZ).
But what is Ford ever going to do if they ever issue a hot seller again? The F150 can be built in vast quantities, but what other model do they have the build capacity to issue in Camry or Accord numbers? Yes, it is unlikely to happen to Ford again (unless they start building Fords of Europe here). But it is something for them to at least dream about.
I just don't understand why it's an inferior platform just because it started out life as a Mazda? It was modified for the Fusion/MkZ and modified again for the Edge/MKX.
And, where do you draw the line?
If a Lincoln based on a Mazda is OK, how about a Lincoln based on a Kia? Or how about a Chinese Lincoln? That probably isn't out of the question either.
If they're going to cop out and not build an American Lincoln, then my second choice would be a Jaguar based Lincoln. I guess Volvo would come next. Even a Lincoln based on a Ford is more palatable, at least to me, to a Lincoln based on a Ford based on a Mazda.
Look at what Cadillac and Chrysler are doing. That's what Lincoln should be doing. I know I know, give em time. Wait til 2012 0r 2015. By then, I'll be ready for a Town Car:>)
If they produced the exact same platform but said it was developed in America - what would you say?
I am about to get me a fully loaded MKZ so I guess that makes me a fan. Hey it is December and at least we all have a car and choices. We could be riding Bicycles in the Ardeness Forest through the snow in 1944 as a Volksgrendiar!
And no, the Chinese Lincoln is not out of the question. We may see one long before any of us would predict.
The sad thing is at this point, there is no real Lincoln platform at all. Cadillac has come close, but never sunk this low. Up until 1998, the Town Car was enough different underneath from the Vic/Marquis identical twins as to be its own platform or sub-platform. Not any more.
If Ford had the know-how to do some platform sharing between Jaguar and Lincoln and make it work moneywise, that would be my preference too. But apparently Lincoln is perceived as not worthy of PAG status, or even an identifiable brand identity. If the powers that be had respected its history and former status, the Continental Concept would have replaced the Town Car two years ago already.
And too bad more people don't see the 500 as you do. If they did, sales would not be down as far as they've gone.
Glad to hear you're okay. It's great how safe new cars are.
http://www.thegmsource.com/index.php?categoryid=3&p17_sectionid=21&p17_imageid=2- - 48
Oh, and thankfully they redisgned the sorry exterior as well and it looks nice. I think I might be becoming a GM fan. They look like they FINALLY have a clue.
Come on, Alan, quit drinking the Kool-Aid and give credit where it's due. And while you're at it, count the number of positions on the shifter :>)
If this works,
Compare this:
to this:
I agree it's a big step up and I do like the center stack.
I think the biggest problem with the Fusion/Milan/Edge dash is the cheap radio and climate controls. And remember I have the Fusion with the piano black trim which is almost an entirely different look from the woodgrain interior.
And yes, I see it has a "real" shifter. Never mind the fact that 99.99% of the time it will be in D just like my Fusion.
OK, I agree - it is a BIG step up for GM. The Tahoe interior last year must've been the first step It was so much better than what I had in my 97 Tahoe (the only GM car I've ever owned) I thought it was an Audi or something at first.
The only thing I might change with this interior would be the little brown bead trim along the seat edges. I think that should be black. Mercury has tried two-tone with the Milan, but this is far better looking, IMHO. I am not real familiar with the Fusion interiors and their variants. I have seen pictures of the Edge's black interior and it is far too black - too much black - for my taste.
Oh, and see the button, TDC on the Malibu dash? I wonder what that releases? If it's a typical CD holder cubby I will be unimpressed. But if there's a Nav screen under there - then GM IS the one to watch.
I also just today opened last months MT and saw a drawing of what may be the 2009 Impala and I'm sorry but if it looks anything like that, Ford is in REAL trouble. I've always been a Ford guy, but the times they are a'changin.
This Malibu interior says to me that this is a car that wants to be driven. The Fusion says sit here, turn the key and dont make any trouble.
Well I hope they do not use hard plastic there. If it is hard plastic - then - I am sorry.
Fusion interior is not bad, but look cheap by today’s standards, especially center stack and center armrest. And steering wheel is has somehow awkward design.
GM is gonna kill Ford. Pontiac is going to be all RWD, even G6. And Chevy Impala will be RWD too - real Impala this time, and design will be similar to new Camaro.
Cadillac is going to bury Lincoln – no question about it. Ford will probably drop Mercury while GM is reviving Buick and Saturn with new unique models. In China GM is also doing well coming with hot Caddies and Buicks. Cadillac SLS vs Town Car.
I gotta agree. From what I'm seeing lately, by 2010 Ford, Mercury and Lincoln are going to be so far behind their traditinal rivals at GM, there'll probably be no catching up. I hope fervently I'm wrong and SOMEONE at Ford is working on SOMETHING we don't know about. Cause if it's Fusion vs this Malibu I'm seeing and 500 vs this Impala I'm seeing and Mercury cough laugh against Pontiac and/or Buick and Lincoln vs oh no wait Lincoln vs Buick, nothing vs Cadillac ... Ah to heck with it.
Rocky
It served no purpose other than to cut his wrists with flying shrapnel. He is lucky nothing got in his eye.
Re the exterior: We'll see. GM hasn't had a good looking car in years....