Toyota Highlander

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  • silverhlltdsilverhlltd Member Posts: 21
    Previous comments not withstanding, we have 255/60s on aftermarket rims that are 17 x 7.5.

    Because of the rather narrow 16 inch stock rims, and the limited tire sizes available, switching to "plus one" was deemed to be absolutely necessary.
  • brad_22brad_22 Member Posts: 154
    wwest:
    17x8's huh? I'll bet that looked sharp. I originally purchased 255/65-16....if I had known that "spacers" existed, I might have kept them. : ) What kind of spacer did you use? It would be good for future reference.

    nimrod99:
    All valid points. The new tire diameter and width both increase by 1/2 an inch. The reason for the change was purely for appearance and some off-road traction improvements. I'll get those pictures posted soon...I think then you'll agree the finished product looks great!
  • brad_22brad_22 Member Posts: 154
    I'm glad you found a tire/wheel combo that worked. Any issues fitting them to the HL?
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    From a simple engineering standpoint a wider stance and more traction is ALWAYS desireable. Within the bounds of reason that is.
  • nofeernofeer Member Posts: 381
    Will the O3 HL get nav, and does it have an indash cd changer
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Well, we finally drove one last night. We're car shopping for the wife. We sampled a V6.

    Right away, we didn't like the back seat. It's too low and puts you in a "knees in the chest" position. The front seats are much better, though, and there is room to spare. Interior materials are good, though we're used to less expensive cars so they should be.

    The ride felt tolerant, quiet, refined. V6 is torquey, relaxed, very nice. I liked it a lot, actually, but the wife didn't find it "fun", were her words. I was surprised. I think she's used to smaller cars and wants to stay small, though with a 2nd kid on the way we need a reasonable amount of space.

    So it was too big, even "too nice" for our needs. Isn't that hilarious?

    We also tried a Camry SE, 4 cylinder 5 speed, and she liked that better. Not very exciting, but we couldn't really find anything wrong with it, so that's still on our short list.

    Interesting, though, how tastes vary. I liked it, but it's her vehicle.

    -juice
  • toledo19toledo19 Member Posts: 119
    Actually, I know exactly what your wife means. I drove the HL several weeks ago. It's a nice vehicle but I thought the engine noise was pronounced and the handling adequate but subdued. Try the Mazda Tribute and CRV. These may be more to her liking.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    She did like the CR-V. I thought it was noisy and used cheap materials, but she didn't care. It's still on our list.

    Tribute doesn't meet our reliability standards. We had a 626, great for 5 years, then fell apart. The Tribute has had a long string of recalls that I find embarassing (wheels falling off?).

    -juice
  • ssufldhckyssufldhcky Member Posts: 16
    My daughter has a 2002 Trib, we have a 2002 HL. I've driven both cars/trucks quite a bit. The engine noise in the Tribute is much louder. For the extra $3k the HL is twice
    the vehicle.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    That is precisely why I took her to try the HL. We're limiting our search to cars that are at least above average in reliability.

    If she were fine with an unreliable car, we would have kept her 7 year old one.

    -juice
  • dniehusdniehus Member Posts: 83
    I bought my 2001 HL last April and have been very pleased. I went through a tedious process as well before making my choice. Have you considered a Subaru Forester or Outback? Very safe and reliable vehicles. No doubt you're aware the Honda Pilot is coming out soon -- if you can wait. Obviously that will be more $$$ than the CRV (which I can no consideration to at all after looking at it; too small and appears to be an "econobox" -- very stripped down in appearance). Good luck with your shopping.
  • dawgcardawgcar Member Posts: 12
    I bought a HL 4by2 FWD V6 basic Pkgs etc. for my wife/ traded my Corolla in,and I was driving her Camry LE V6 for about 2 weeks. When we were driving in her HL I enjoy the high riding HL as oppose to my Corolla. It was everything all the Magazines said it was (and I read every single one). I check all the internet sites that had any info on it too. I went too KBB and Edmunds and got all their info. I talk to several dealers over the internet and found out about how they pkg everything in this area. I got my wifes Camry detail for about 35 dollar, went into a dealer and got another 4 by 2 HL but this time a 4 cyl, basic Pkg's after I test drove it for about 30 minutes putting it thru the paces. I will pick it up Friday and paid 500 over invoice thru their internet manager. I paid about 900 over invoice on my wifes HL V6. We do most city driving and I figured the better gas mileage with the 4. If we go out on the road highway we will take her V6. I cant believe but we got the same color Bluestone,(I thought the best of the of all of them) the only other color that was of any interest is the Indigo Blue and the Black and the Green and the latter two were last choices. The other colors did nothing for us. We also have two growing kids 9 and 11 and the room in back is great. We check other SUV's Escape , Crv, Santa Fe, Rav 4 and for what our needs are the Highlander fits to a T.
  • iforgotitiforgotit Member Posts: 11
    As stated by gpolt in an earlier post, "... I also find the front passenger cushion a poor design as it does not adjust for tilt. Many have commented on how it is pitched too far forward resulting in the feeling that one will slide forward off the seat..."

    I couldn't agree more with this. This is my wife's car and I really do not like the angle of the front passenger seat. I was thinking of raising the angle at the front of the seat by adding some washers to the front seat anchors.

    The front seat bottom cushions for driver and passenger seem to be quite a bit on the short side, as in they are not long enough It's as if they were made for people with very short thighs, elves come to mind. Our previous Sienna had what I consider to be regular length seat cushions. Other than that no other complaints so far in our first month of ownership.
  • kdubs1kdubs1 Member Posts: 21
    Don't know if cheap flimsy, small-mirrored visors were mentioned yet.
    Or the cheap standard radio on the base.

    Again, these gripes point to the lack of anything substantial to mention.
  • svtcobraconvsvtcobraconv Member Posts: 85
    Hey kdobs1,

    As we were "nit-picking" our new HL, we also noted the visors and mirrors seemed rather chincy.
    However, we were pleasantly surprised by the radio/CD/cassette quality. After reading so many posts on the apparently substandard sound system, we really expected something poor. It is quite sufficient for our needs. (Maybe being 50-ish has something to do with it???)

    Glad these minor things are all we can find to complain about. We are absolutely happy with our purchase.
  • dawgcardawgcar Member Posts: 12
    People buy cars/SUV's for different reasons. Need 7 seating, need a nice sound system, comfort of seats, bells and whistles, driver and passenger room, and I could go on. You look at a car in the long run and if you are looking at 5 things you want in a car and find 4 of them it seems to be pretty good deal. If you want a car with everything you need, you would have to order it. You have to do your research on everything about the car you want to buy and get the figures before going in to buy( including the value of your trade) Go in with some knowledge and you will come out with a good deal. Car Dealers have to make money to stay in business too. You just dont want to give them too much of your money. (I am not a salesman for cars, just a consumer who likes to research things I am going to buy.)
  • jmarousejmarouse Member Posts: 18
    First - My HL is everything I expected it to be.

    However one complaint - The driver seat is very uncomfortable, it does not lean back and very short on the thighs. I agree with everyone else in the group - Think Toyota listens to us ?
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Juice (Ateixeira) owns a Forester, and is one of the two "Subaru Crew" leaders over on the Subaru Owners Club forums here at Edmunds. He knows more about Subarus than most people alive, and they're also on his short list... He's just checking out all the possibilities before biting the bullet.

    Bob
  • billmelater2billmelater2 Member Posts: 8
    Hi Everyone,

    I am looking to buy a new car to replace my 2001 BMW 330ci, which was stolen about two weeks ago. Two weeks after I bought the BMW I feel in love with the Land Rover Discovery SE Series II. Now that I have a second chance I have been researching it and found it to be in the same price class as the Highlander. Has anyone considered the Disco and the Highlander while shopping? What are your thoughts of the Land Rovers now that they just finished 5 years with BMW and now are a Ford family product?

    Please advise.
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    The Ford Escape is probably an overall better deal than the Land Rover.

    A CHEAP Land Rover? Get Real, Ford has enough sense to know when a model needs to be DUMPED!

    The X5 3.0 is at the top of the list, then the ML320, next comes the RX, and then maybe the HL.
  • onboost91onboost91 Member Posts: 86
    I'm interested to see if any of you have any comments on the upcoming 2003 Nissan Murano (www.NissanDriven.com). It is specifically being marketed against the Highlander and RX300. It is a Nissan SUV Hybrid based on the new Altima platform. It will be slightly bigger than the current Pathfinder. It will have 240HP, optional AWD, a CVT transmission (with an option for a 7 Speed sport shift), Limited slip , skid control, 18 inch rims, adjustable pedals (not sure how useful this is), and an available Navigation system. It looks kinda funky but the more I look at it the more I kind of like it.

    I love the Highlander and have been researching purchasing one but I may wait to see what Nissan has to offer. If the price is on par with the Highlander it looks like you get alot more for the money.

    -Mark
  • dcms1dcms1 Member Posts: 9
    I failed to pay adequate attention previously. Now that I need the posts I can't locate them. So please help.... I have an HL Limited with tow prep. I think I recall hearing that Hidden Hitch and a wiring harness is what I need to set things up for towing now. Can anyone fill me in on the specifics? And direct me again to the websites for purchasing them?

    Thanks a bunch!
  • llofgrenllofgren Member Posts: 129
    I agonized over which tow hitch to get for a long time. I ended up with the Hidden Hitch model 70777. You can get it at bageco.com along with the wiring harness or etrailer.com. Its the best looking trailer hitch for the Highlander. I am not as enthusiastic about it after trying to get it on, however. It is a very difficult install. One of the holes in the hitch would not line up with the hole in the frame and part of the hitch impinged on the bracket that holds the conversion box in place. Lastly, the bolts that were supplied with the hitch would not screw in. Today I have the hitch into a local trailer shop to see if they can do some slight modifications to get it on.
    The wiring was extremely easy to put in.
    Draw-Tite and Dalan also make decent hitches for the HL as does Reese. You can see them at Hitch-web.com.
  • dcms1dcms1 Member Posts: 9
    IIofgren - Your reports of installation troubles certainly give me some pause! I recalled other comments on the Hidden Hitch model as being quite favorable and don't remember folks complaining about installation problems (of course I wasn't paying as much attention then, since I didn't expect it all would apply to me so soon). I did note on the etrailer site that its installation was deemed more complicated than some of the others, though it seems your situation is still atypical. I really don't want to get involved in the sort of hassle you're undergoing though.
  • billmelater2billmelater2 Member Posts: 8
    Wwest,

    Your comments are Appreciated. However I would have to disagree with you. The BMW X5 and the ML320 are plagued with problems (Consumer Reports). I also know that this is fact because when I was having me 330ci's oil changed the mechanic said that the X5 is constantly breaking down on a number of owners. In addition the 3 separate owners that I personally know who own both of them compounded this. As for the ML I am shocked that anyone mentioned that, with the fact that Mercedes Benz had to re-launch the 2002s MLs with a redesigned marketing ploy due to the total bad press the first model was experiencing only 3 years prior. Not to mention it looks like a Caravan. A Ford Escape? That is a completely different class, plus have you seen the recall list on that one and its sister SUV from Mazda? Yikes! You do know what a Discovery looks like right? Its not the one that looks like all the rest of the minivan posers with all wheel drive. You also seem to feel that Highlanders are cheep, being that you were shocked that I found them to be in the same price class as the Discovery. A Highlander with the same options as the Discovery SE is priced slightly under (highest level DII). Even with that price it does not have the capacity to seat 9, tow up to 5,500 lbs, have an expectable back seat and have even fair off road abilities. I feel that $35K for a fully loaded mid sized SUV to be cheaper then the class pricing for what you get. What with a base BMW starting at $39K and the ML driving off at $43K. The RX was stated by Consumer Reports to be allergic to highway repairs and anything off road, and looks just like the Acura SUV, the Saturn SUV, the Highlander, the Rav4, should I go on? Yes, I should. What about the warrantees? Land Rover has 5/50 on parts, service, maintenance, roadside assistance and then a 6/unlimited on rust. What is Toyota at 3/36 and do they have maintenance included? I have a 1997 SR5 extended cab with more rust on it then a 1972 Plymouth Newport and has been in more service shops. Right now it has a great FOR SALE sign in it.

    Anyway, I thank you again for your comments. I have one for you, which is to stop by a Land Rover dealer and test-drive some. They usually have a simulated course that will allow you to see what its true capabilities are. Its free and there is no commitment, you can consider it a cheep day out.
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    I didn't say the HL was cheap, I said a LR priced at the HL level was cheep, too CHEEP. If you don't really need AWD the HL is a real bargain in my opinion, even above the RX, in a price/performance comparison.

    The only thing a dressed out HL will be missing is the HID headlamps.

    I have never owned an MB nor a BMW, but I know enough that they can both be trusted to continually improve their products, And yes, past history on the ML series is horrible, that's why I ignored it when we bought our first RX. Today IS a new day.

    I owned two Cherokee Limited's, an 85 and a 92. Would anyone buy a Jeep except for base functionality? At least that's why I bought mine.
  • soylentsoylent Member Posts: 25
    billmelater2,

    I currently own a '97 Defender(0 problems by the way) and love it. I am somewhat familiar with the workings of the D2. and I am also looking to replace my wife's car with a 2003HL Limited. It seems to me that an HL vs. D2 purchase decision, is purely apples/oranges. 1. price: LOADED HL out the door $32,444.00 vs. base SD(not the nicely equipped SE) $32,345. These prices are based on my dealings here in So Cal. If you want to lease, prepare to spend a good deal out of pocket on the D2 to get equal terms. 2. offroad capability: HL - none vs LR - unmatched 3. dependability: HL - VG to Excellent vs. LR - horrible(go to a few Disco forums,here and on the web and find out for yourself, all they talk about is leaking this, leaking that. It comes with the territory of owning a LR, hence the "great warranty") and the list goes on.

    and finaly to quote Edmunds on the Disco2:

    Pros
    Off-road ability, unique design, advanced handling features.

    Cons
    Difficult entry and egress, quirky ergonomics, not much cargo space, poor gas mileage from underpowered V8.

    What Edmunds.com Says
    There are two reasons to buy this truck: either you need incredible off-road capability or you need to show off to the neighbors. If you have different needs, buy a different SUV.

    I await comments.
  • troyy2ktroyy2k Member Posts: 91
    Does anyone know of the changes that will be made, if any, to the 2003 Highlander?
  • troyy2ktroyy2k Member Posts: 91
    Comparing the overall dimensions of the two vehicles, it seems that the Murano is wider, longer, and just as tall as the Toyota Highlander (per the Murano specs listed at the "FreshAlloy.com" web site). The dimensions are as follows:

    MURANO
    LxWxH: 187.5 x 74 x 66.5 inches
    Cargo Vol: 32.6/70.8
    Passenger vol: 110.0
    wheelbase: 111.2

    HIGHLANDER:
    LxWxH: 184.5 x 72 x 66.5 inches
    Cargo Vol: 38.5/81.4
    Passenger vol: 105.7
    wheelbase: 107

    Is the Murano really that large? If so, it seems to make far less use out of interior space when compared to the smaller Highlander.
  • daveghhdaveghh Member Posts: 495
    The Murano is not much smaller on the inside. Add up the cargo volume and passenger volume and that gives you the entire volume inside the vehicle.

    Murano = 144.2
    Highlander = 142.6
  • silverhlltdsilverhlltd Member Posts: 21
    What do you mean by "it does not lean back?"

    Do you mean that the back rests do not go lean back flat? Mine does.
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    the passenger side seat bottom does not tilt front to back, cannot lower the back of the seat bottom vs the front, same as the RX. Makes a tall person feel somewhat uncomfortable.
  • bbartman02bbartman02 Member Posts: 6
    Well, I have a 2002 HL and got annoyed with the visor stickers on the drivers side -- airbag warning and such. I am rather tall, so my eye level is towards the top of the window already. I drive with the sun usually on the drivers side and the light reflects off the yellow in those stickers really bad and distracted me enough that I couldn't focus on the road.

    So I took the visor off the car and tried to get the stickers off, with no luck, and wound up accidently cutting the visor material (thin vinyl?).

    I tried a few cd holders (that I wasn't going to put any CD's in), but they are rather thick and make the visor stay down from the roof a little and also cover up the "homelink" garage door opener buttons.

    Does anyone know of a material or thick vinyl stickers that would closely match the tan color of the visor that could either cover it or at least make it so those stickers can't be seen? Does this bother anyone else or am I just being annoyed that a company wants to avoid a lawsuit so much that they are willing to distract us when driving?
  • brupopbrupop Member Posts: 63
    I too went with the Hidden Hitch model 70777. I found the installation very easy. Instructions and hardware all clear and complete. Install tip: use a carton, box, or jack (I used a recycling bin) to support the hitch while lining up the holes. Put this under the hitch AFTER you tilt it into place around the muffler as per the instructions.
    I am getting the Toyota harness from http://www.toyotaguys.com and don't foresee any install problems with it.
    I got the hitch from a local United Rentals shop here in Portland OR for $129 complete, no shipping. While web shopping I recall http://www.hitches4less.com having the best price although I don't remember if it was a Hidden Hitch.
    Good luck and Happy HLing to all!!!
    Greg
  • scwt47scwt47 Member Posts: 13
    Just got my Murano brochure from nissandriven.com and I see they are going to have a much more aggressive body style than the HL. The rear fenders are especially distinctive, as is the nose, both more streamlined than the rather boxy HL body style. But they give up some interior room (10 cu. ft. less total cargo capacity, seats down) with the slanted hatch. Sure, total space is on a par with HL, but some of us need to haul stuff. Lots of stuff.

    As far as power they are right on the money, with a bit more oomph than HL (240 vs 220) and no 4-banger engine options. The interior looks nice and they managed to get a big center console put into the design in year 1 instead of in year 2, as with the HL.

    The high-tech feature, a real break-through, is the optional Continuously Variable Transmission. Not because a CVT is new, but because it is being designed into a fairly powerful normal-size vehicle, not an econo-box. This ought to help boost the gas mileage, along with the more slippery shape. Rightly or wrongly people paste all SUVs with a gas-guzzler badge. Here we might see one mid-size SUV with decent power yet pulling down EPA mileage on a par with mini-sport-utes. Let's see if they can break 20MPG city with a 240HP mid-size rig.

    The most impractical feature might be the strange sail panels in the rear quarter area. They look swoopy and stylish, but I like to be able to look around at the city traffic as I merge and this design has nothing but blind spots in back. The panels and the smallish rear glass area (reminds me of the little hatch glass used on the Taurus/Sable wagons) are really going to make the driver count on the mirrors a lot.

    Give Nissan a little praise for breaking out of the SUV mold. This is more of a crossover vehicle than the HL, at least based on the styling. From some angles it reminds one of the old Volvo P1800 Sportwagon.

    Nice to see some serious HL competition, which will be good for buyers and even for Toyota. HL, Honda Pilot, Nissan Murano. 12 months ago HL had this market to itself. In August there will be 3 choices and the North American HL factory should be pumping out HLs to augment the Japanese factory (assuming the Japanese factory does not slow down production).

    By the way, have they all run out of good names for these things? Murano? Highlander? Pilot?
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    About the only thing I've heard that people have done with visors is completely recovering them with some type of fabric. I don't know of anyone who's been able to get the warning labels off.

    Steve
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  • lbags48lbags48 Member Posts: 17
    Took delivery of our HL last week.

    While washing and polishing it this afternoon, I noticed that both side view mirrors and the front bumper were protected with a Stongard like cover. This was something I was going to have installed in the next month or so. Now it looks like I will only have to do the hood. Thanks Toyota!
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    After years upon years of automotive design engineers working their butts off to even out the torque curve of gasoline engines NOW comes along a viable CVT.

    Too late, it won't help gas mileage.
  • skyrebskyreb Member Posts: 129
    I visited the Internet site and reviewed the material there. I thought the Murano is visually appealing, and being a Nisson, I am certain it will be a high quality vehicle.

    The image reminded me more of what Chrysler might do with a PT Cruiser SUV.

    The only negative I had, and it is a big negative in my mind .... look at what appears to be a terrible blind spot off the rear quarter. I concede that some use the right morror before changing lanes, and I always do too, but I never move over without first taking a quick glance. The area that I am calling a blind spot ... appears ... that it would completely block that view. If that is correct, for what?? Styling??

    Maybe a drive would correct that perception, but my early impression is none too favorable.

    That's my early opinion.

    Happy HL'ing to all.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    New videos are online, so can compare the new Murano clip to the existing Highlander video.

    Steve
    Host
    SUVs, Vans and Aftermarket & Accessories Message Boards
  • rfhourfhou Member Posts: 47
    wwest - any ideas on how to do a HID conversion for the HL? My guess is, that a HID head lamp(etc...) off of a ReX wouldn't fit(that would be too easy).
  • mcurtin7mcurtin7 Member Posts: 5
    I have not gotten around to installing a sub as of yet, but I have installed new speakers (Focal Polyglass 165V), headunit (Nakamichi CD40z) and an amp (Planet Audio- 75 watts/channel). To install the headunit, I ordered an installation kit from American International (www.aius.net)- (TOY-975; the 2001 version was recently released and is made specifically for the Highlander, Echo, Celica and some other models). Head unit installation was very simple. Also, you need to order the a wiring harness- TWH-950. Amp installation was fairly straight forward as well. I placed it underneath the front passenger seat. Sounds great!!!
  • maxintoshmaxintosh Member Posts: 39
    Nissan does not have a breakthrough with their CVT. Audi was by far the first, and still the best, company to produce a CVT to power larger vehicles.

    They use a sophisticated metal chains instead of belts, which have limitations.

    When the Volkswagen Touareg hits the market, we're definately going to be saying good-bye to our Highlander... as nice a car as it is...

    First of all, it has the most sophisticated AWD (read: all electronic differentials) system on the market, able to divert electronically up to 100% of the power to any wheel. (even wwest would be able to tolerate it)

    Secondly, it has the most sophisticated suspension on the market, able to adjust dampening and even lower the car at highway speeds for cornering stability.

    Thirdly, its interior is exquisite reeks of quality, and the overall design is very classy and Audi-esque.

    Add to that all of VW's standard features, like head protection and rollover airbags, ambient nighttime lighting, auto-dimming mirrors; and electronic braking force distribution, electronic stability control, etc. and this thing is looking like the ultamite package.

    We love our Highlander dearly, is nice to drive, comfortable, and pleasant, but are drooling over this '03 dub... VW took long enough but they really made sure they got it right (unlike its ugly step-sister, the Porsche Cayenne). The only thing I wish they did differently was offer 3rd-row seats.

    Check out www.vwvortex.com.
  • chadhburkechadhburke Member Posts: 27
    I haven't posted since I had the infamous "reed" noise problem fixed with the new door seals. My 2001 HL has 24,000 miles and it's as good as the day I bought it. I received my letter from Toyota regarding the sludge problem, and the 8 year warranty made me feel good. My oil gets changed every 3K so I don't see it being a problem anyway, but if it does, I believe Toyota will take care of it.

    It's nice to see a manufacturer stand behind their product for once. I look forward to many more years of driving one of the best mid-size SUVs on the market.
  • onboost91onboost91 Member Posts: 86
    Any idea why Audi doesn't offer the CVT on their Quattro versions? Anyone hear anything about Toyota offering a CVT in any upcoming vehicles?

    -Mark
  • cmcardlecmcardle Member Posts: 71
    And it was my fault. I tried all 6 bolts before putting the hitch in place, so I knew they all went in. Removed the bolts, put the hitch into place, and the middle bolt on the passenger side wouldn't go in easily. Hmmmm...

    We thought perhaps the holes were a millionth of an inch off so we (here's the brilliant part) tried to "pull" the plate into alignment by pushing up on the bolt and really trying to crank it in there. It would bite, but never take, and never straightened up.

    So, took the car and parts over to a friend who rebuilds his own cars and knows more than anyone I know. He got under there with a flashlight and started laughing.

    Apparently there is some sort of nut in the frame, held in place by a spring-like mechanism. When I did my test fitting, I must have knocked that out of alignment, so when we went back to it, I was just grinding the bolt against the threads. We tried everything to make it work, but in his opinion, short of taking off the bumper and chiseling out that nut and replacing it with another, there was nothing to do.

    So, my hitch is in with 5 bolts, and should be more than enough for my little trailer, but thought I'd share my somewhat embarrassing story. And everyone is right - looks pretty sharp.
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    The Murano will be the most powerful CVT/AWD vehicle, when it debuts. It will have a 3.5L 240 HP engine. To date, no one can top that, not even Audi.

    BTW, I saw the Murano in person at the NY auto show, and it is gorgous!

    Bob
  • dawgcardawgcar Member Posts: 12
    macintosh

    After checking out the Vortex online with its pics and info on the car, it seems to be a very nice SUV. The price according to the article says it is going to start at 35,000 for the V6 and they have a larger engine to boot too. It would seem that the V6 is going to be the low end model. For starting at 35,000 and what kind of options you are talking big bucks and no 3rd row seat? You may be able to afford the new Vortex starting at 35.000 but for my money the Highlander still fits into my price range.
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    If I knew for sure a way to do it my RX would go away in favor of an HL.

    I found out this past weekend that the Ford Escape actually locks the center diff'l ANYTIME it is in 4WD, otherwise it's a FWD vehicle.

    It's a shame T/L didn't do that.
  • brad_22brad_22 Member Posts: 154
    I've wanted to add an aftermarket system to my HL. Is the AI installation kit specific to a certain headunit or will it work with any brand?

    Does it come in a single DIN size with a spare slot underneath? It'd be nice to get some extra space to store things.

    Thanks,
    Brad
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