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# Chrysler Town & Country/Dodge Caravan Real World MPG

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242,312The Chrysler T&C, Dodge Caravan and Grand Caravan provide the MOST minivan for the actual cost.

242,312I regret buying my new 2006 Sienna LE as it is NOT as good overall as the 2002 T&C LX that I owned before buying the Sienna.

The Sienna has more power and gets better gas mileage than the T&C but it is NOT as quiet on the highway and has very poor radio reception.

I rate the T&C and GC as a "BEST BUY" even though the Odyssey has more comfortable seats but costs too much.

1,222I think T&C owners general are not very concerned about mileage and also don't spend much time reading in the Town Hall or Consumer Reports where T&C are inaccurately portrayed as not having the mythical quality and reliability of the Odyssey and Sienna.Could be. One thought behind this topic is that mileage may be a purchase consideration, especially as gas prices continue to increase. As for the other considerations you mention, the Minivan Shopping, Odyssey vs. Dodge/Chrysler Minivans, and Odyssey vs. Sienna discussions are good places to discuss them.

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519,148Best Regards,

Shipo

2202269The van looks and drives like new. My wife's favorite options are the Stow 'N Go, she really likes the outside temperature gauge, and the leather seats of all things. Oh, and she really likes all the electronics. I didn't think girls were supposed to like things like this. :surprise: Color me wrong.

I would purchase another one of these things, no problem. My wife would insist. Got to keep the girls happy.

30122k miles

One dealer visit for AC line recall

Love it, but looking forward to the 2008 model.

519,148and backon a single tank of gas this weekend. The trip was almost exactly 470 miles and consumed 18.3 gallons of gas (same gas station, same gas pump, same setting). I was actually trying for 500 miles on the tank, however, on the way down I had to deal with exceedingly heavy traffic (due to rain, construction and end of Summer vacationers) between Worcester, MA and the CT state line (took almost two hours to go 25 miles), and then literally 80 miles of uninterrupted bumper to bumper/stop-and-go traffic (due to the same reasons plus a few accidents thrown in for good measure) between New Haven, CT and the NJ state line.Anyway, long story short, on that trip our 1998 DGC with the 3.8 engine managed very near 26 MPG. Not too shabby.

Best Regards,

Shipo

511,1685I'm a conservative driver and try to minimize hard accelleration and foolishly needless use of brakes (if you know you're going to have to stop in 200 yards/meters, get off the gas).

The instantaneous MPG read out is educational. Much of the time it shows fabulous mileage, 50-99 MPG, but when going up hill especially when cold in lower gears, it can quickly drop into single digits.

Here's a puzzler: If I take a trip to the top of a mountain and back, getting 9 MPG on the way up and 90 MPG on the way down, what is my average MPG? This is a simple math problem and not a trick question, though the answer is surprising to some. Answer to be provided in a subsequent message...

Roger

115As far as I know, none of the gas here abouts has ethanol added, and I don't think I encountered any on my somewhat indirect trip from Tampa to Vermont. If (when?) I fill up with an ethanol blend, I'll report the observed mileage...

Roger

9,148Here's a puzzler: If I take a trip to the top of a mountain and back, getting 9 MPG on the way up and 90 MPG on the way down, what is my average MPG? This is a simple math problem and not a trick question, though the answer is surprising to some. Answer to be provided in a subsequent message...According to my calculations the answer is 16.363636...

Best Regards,

Shipo

5According to my calculations the answer is 16.363636...Precisely! Most folks are surprised how much intervals at lower mpg (higher consumption) can dominate the overall mileage...

Roger

112,312A co-worker bought a 1990 Plymouth Grand Voyager used from his preacher in 1991 when it had 10,000 miles on it. It had 110,000 miles when I last saw him in 1996. He preferred it over his wife's Cadillac Sedan De Ville for long trips.

My daughter's 1999 GC SE now has 92,000 miles on it. A friend recently traded his 2000 GC LE in on a 2006 GC SXT when it had just over 90,000 miles ( His 4th DaimlerChrysler minivan).

My son recently traded his 2002 GC Sport in on a 2006 Sienna LE because he had to replace the transmission and the GC was now making "rubbing" noises when turning corners. I don't know how many miles it had when he traded it in. ( He got it used when it had 11,000 miles on it if I recall correctly).

17I have had the same results over since I bought the van with 29,000 miles. I now have 73,000 on it. Over those miles I have probably spent about $1200 in non-maintenance repairs.

Tom

265I say, add a diesel engine, and the mini's will grow in numbers...

9,148"I averaged 17 mpg on all three of my Dodges, but with ethanol being added it is going to kill mpg on mini vans."Timely comment. I drove our 1998 DGC Sport 3.8 from southern New Hampshire (where I filled up with E10) to Charlotte, North Carolina yesterday for a total of 912 miles. Along the way I filled up in the Scranton, Pennsylvania area with E10 and again in central Virginia where I found 100% gasoline (E0?). I had the cruise control set at 71 for the entire trip and the following are the OBC readings for each stop:

Mileage -- Miles --- E/T -- MPG -- Fuel

127,641-- Trip Start

127,961 -- 319.1 -- 4:49 -- 22.4 -- E10

128,259 -- 298.2 -- 4:28 -- 23.3 -- E10

128,554 -- 294.8 -- 4:19 -- 26.0 -- Gasoline

Interesting huh? I'm thinking that E10 should only impact mileage by 5 to 7 percent, however, that ain't what I saw yesterday. My return trip is today (and probably tomorrow) and my plan is to fill up as soon as I get back to Virginia and then again just before I leave that state. It'll be educational. ;-)

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Shipo

55Bosch offers “notice the difference or you get a full refund”. I’m keeping mine.

Next week I'm changing my oil to a Mobil 1 synthetic oil to see if I can increase it more.

16Picked up an 08 T&C Touring 3.8L a few days ago.

I currently have around 200 highway city mixed miles and getting 12.9 MPG

I think my car stated 16/24 or something.

Is this normal? should it get better?

Im on my 2nd tank of gas and it doesnt seem to get any better...

Other 08 owners , show your MPG please~

5My first tank was horrible at 12.75 and I was rather upset and quite worried.

Each refill improved a little and I have now refilled about twenty-five times.

My last two refills have averaged a tad over 20 mpg.

I am not sure how typical this is.

522If I'm really determined, I can make a 15 mile cross town trip and average about 20MPGs. But that type of driving ticks a lot of other drivers off.

On the highway at 55-60 mph driving like a grandma it is easy to get 26-28 mpg.

Driving at 75-80, it is virtually impossible to get more than 22mpg.

Driving through Montana and Wyoming at 85-95 mph, the average was 19mpg for about 800 miles.

Conservative driving really ads MPGs. Having AC off and looking ahead really helps increase fuel economy.

4But if they use ethanol in winter.

It is not unexpected.

9,148realeasy, I managed to milk just over 500 miles from a single tank of gas (which worked out to just over 28 mpg).Best Regards,

Shipo

16,1309,148Best Regards,

Shipo

16,1309,148Best Regards,

Shipo

491The winter factors are:

(1) Increased aerodynamic drag due to air being denser when it is colder.

(2) Decreased traction on wet, snowy, or icy roads lowers efficiency of power transmission.

(3) Traffic snarls in winter increase the time of trips, and cause more braking

(4) Longer warm-up time in cold weather. Engine uses more fuel during warm-up

(5) More idling to keep heater on for occupants remaining in the vehicle when someone goes into a convenience store

491Here's a puzzler: If I take a trip to the top of a mountain and back, getting 9 MPG on the way up and 90 MPG on the way down, what is my average MPG? This is a simple math problem and not a trick question, though the answer is surprising to some. Answer to be provided in a subsequent message...The reason why there is any problem at all with this sort of calculation is that in the US we express fuel use as

distance travelled / volume of fuel consumed (or mpg),

rather than

volume fuel consumed / distance travelled

gpm = gal / mi, or we could use gal / 100 mi to avoid dealing with small decimal fractions. To get gal / 100 mi = 100 / mpg. So 25 mpg would be 100 /25 = 4.0 gal / 100 mi.

The latter system is what is used in Europe except they use metric units: L / 100 km.

To do the "puzzler" we average the equivalent gpm (or gal/100mi) values and then convert that back to mpg by taking reciprocal of the result.

Ave mpg = 1 / ((1 / 9 + 1 / 90) / 2) = 16.36 mpg

If the distances for the two different mpg values are not the same, then the calculation is a weighted average where the weighting factors are the fraction of the total distance.

Ave mpg = 1 / (f1 / mpg1 + f2 / mpg2)

Where f1 = d1 / (d1 + d2) and f2 = d2 / (d1 + d2).

This more general formula works when the distances are equal or unequal.

This is the formula for calculationg the combined mpg from the city and highway mpg values. Consider a vehicle which gets 22 mpg city and 30 mpg highway. The USDOT assumes that 55 % of the driving is city and 45 % highway. So the formula for combined mpg for 22/30 city highway is

Combined mpg = 1 / (0.55/22 + 0.45/30) = 25.0 mpg

The general formula is

Combined pmg = 1 / (0.55 / mpgcity + 0.45 / mpghwy)

4911,3949,148FWIW, that was in our older 1998 3.8 liter DGC Sport van that had 145,000 miles on it at the time.

Basically I told you that as a way of suggesting that during the summer you might could well get better mileage than what you're seeing now.

Best Regards,

Shipo

1,394I'm OK with 24-25 mpg on the highway. I think that's good for a 4200 lb, 3.8L vehicle. I wasn't expecting anything better.

9,148Best Regards,

Shipo

5First tank of gas came out at 12.75 mpg.

Since then I have driven 12,000 miles.

Over all mileage is 21.00 mpg.

Best on the road was 28.44, 27.38, and 26.54.

9,148Best Regards,

Shipo

5Filled up 40 times.

Purchased 575.6 gallons at average $3.03 per gallon to drive 12,087 miles at total cost of 1,743.58 with overall 21.00 mpg.

35Thanks for any insight into this situation because the gas prices are KILLING me!