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Dodge Dakota Starting Problems

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  • will37will37 Posts: 2
    I have a 2000 3.9 v6 Dodge Dakota after the radiator hose blew the truck would not start or stay running unless you have the pedal floored. Once you put it in gear the vehicle will die. Does anyone have any ideas about this?
  • damguysdamguys Posts: 1
    I am having the same problem with my vehicle. Did you get it fixed? What did you do? I also have an indication on the instrument panel "BUD" I don't know what that is. No spark and no fuel pump. I can jump the fuel pump relay and force it to run but still no spark. Any help would be appreciated. Damguys
  • i have a 91 dakota with the 5.2 that wont start up. it turns over and its geting fuel.from what i know it doesnt have a crank or cam sensor. ive checked the asd relay and it works fine.i replaced the coil and pick-up coil. still wont start. and there is no power at the positive side of the coil. iv tried to jump a wire from the pos. on the battery to the coil still wont fire. the ignition switch, spark plaugs, distrubitor, and wires are realitively new. ive done everything i cn think of any one else have any idea at all im lost.
  • I had the same problem... I replaced the computer, the coil, module,rotor button & cap. After all that, still the same problem. No spark from the coil!! Turns out that it was a plug from the crankshaft sensor down at the transmission, It was loose and once i took it apart and put it back togeather....Fired up and runs well. I hope that this will help someone =)
  • i've got a 98 dakota with a 2.5l 4 cylinder engine. A few months ago my wife drove to work so i could get her car worked on. The Pick-up died on her. She says there was no warning it just suddenly died. It's a standard tranny so she tried to pop it into gear, it did not start. I replaced to coil, distributor, distributor module, distributor cap, plugs and wires. after all that it finally started and ran great for about a week. I took her car to see if i could get a trade in on a new on(which means she drove my pick-up ...and it died). She says the same thing happened. I can crank it all day long and the most i get is a random jerk as the engine tries to turn over. nothing more. will i have to replace all that stuff again, and hope it runs till after i trade it off, or can anyone tell me a better way to fix the problem?
  • ok replaced neutral safety switch.. truck still no start or no turnover...
    put in new starter.. truck still no cranking just a quiet click.. decided to try and start directly at starter and it started... whats going on here? cant i bypass the relay somehow so i can key start it? this is ridiculous having to start my car from outside... please someone help me...
  • truck cranks, it,s got spark from the plugs and fuel top end but no fire.
    truck was driven fine just change speed sensor on training night before
    it,s just bog out. tested fuel line on top got pressure pull plug got spark from block
  • Fixed. It,s was choke cable
  • Let me start by saying, I know nothing about cars. I am doing this for my husband, He has a 92 dodge dakota, the truck will crank all day, but will not start. He has replaced the computer, distributor, crank shaft sencor, coil, plugs, well just about everything on the engine, he has traced wire, check fuses, and still the truck will not start. Has he missed anything, can anyone help. Thanks, Shannon
  • I have a 2K Dak CC with a 4.7 5 speed and I am having problems with the first start of the day. It cranks for about 10 seconds before starting but then starts immediately for the rest of the day. The battery has just been replaced and the plugs are not very old. I am not throwing any codes. I have tried turning the ignition on for a while before cranking to see if there was any lag with the fuel pump but that has not made any difference. I do not think this is weather related since this began at the end of summer. Aside from this the truck runs great. Anyone have any ideas as to what is causing this?

    Ron
  • dustykdustyk Posts: 2,926
    This could be a fuel problem or a electrical wiring problem. I suggest a good service manual and a verification that you are getting spark (ignition) and fuel.

    Regards,
    Dusty
  • dustykdustyk Posts: 2,926
    Just to verify, if you held the key in the start position for, let's say one minute, it wouldn't start? But it will start okay the second time you turn the key to the start position?

    Regards,
    Dusty
  • Ron,

    I had a 2002 Dodge Dakota 4.7L and I had exactly the same problem. This is not electrical problem!!! Do not touch it. I replaced fuel pump and everything went back to normal. I believe that there is not enough pressure build up for the first start in old pump. New fuel pump will solve that problem. It is located on top of fuel tank. This is a well known defect on these vehicles as I found out later. Good luck.

    Toli
  • Thanks for your replies. To answer Dusty - on the first start of the day I will have to crank it for 6 to 8 seconds before it starts. I have never shut it down right away and tried starting it again but for the rest of that day, even after siting for several hours there will be no problem starting it. It is just the initial start after sitting overnight. I have tried turning the ignition to the on position for about 10 seconds to get the fuel pump started without cranking it but that has not made any difference.

    Ron
  • Exactly! You are not alone. I had the same problem. It makes no difference how long you wait with ignition on. You just need to crank it for few times in the morning and replace fuel pump when you get tired of it. I drove like that for about 2 years before I decided to fix it. Cheapest pumps are on ebay, buy it only new. Since this is a common problem on these pumps. Good luck.
  • dustykdustyk Posts: 2,926
    Well, the suggestion that this could be a fuel pump problem is a possibility, although in my experience this is not a common problem.

    When I've seen Dakota pumps fail they are not often intermittent like this. The one fuel pump related issue that I'm familiar with that matches your symptom, was not the a pump failure, but a clogged inlet filter on the pump. This was not discovered until after disassembly and the new pump was installed. As was told to me, when the pump was shaken all kinds of "crap" fell out. What is a more likely failure scenario, in my opinion, is a faulty Fuel Pressure Regulator, however, it is an integral part of the pump anyway.

    That aside for the moment, what I have seen on older (2000-2003) Dakotas (and a couple of RAMs, too) are intermittent Auto Shut Down (ASD) Relays. The ASD Relay prevents power to the coils and fuel injectors in the event of a rollover.

    The older relays were manufactured by Emrod and are usually dark red in color, the newer ones are black and made by Tyco. The part number is 56049018-AA. Look at the last two alpha characters on the relay part number. Chrysler uses these characters to denote a change to the part. In my 2003 these are marked "AB," meaning the part has been revised from the original.

    Since the cost of this part is relatively inexpensive compared to a fuel pump, I would suggest looking at this as a possible suspect. The ASD Relay can be switched with another in the Power Distribution Center box as a trial. There is also a Fuel Pump Relay in the PDC that could cause the same problem. Also, inspect the relay pins for signs of corrosion.

    Of course, there are other things that could cause this problem, like an intermittent Crankshaft or Camshaft Sensor.

    Best regards,
    Dusty
  • Dusty - Thanks for your response. This does seem to be intermittent since right now I am not having any problems. I have filed your post and if it acts up again I'll check further.

    Ron
  • Hi shannon,I have the same problem that your husband has.I have a1995 dodge dakota and my wife wants to kill me because all I do is try to get this truck running.I had replace the same parts your husband did.I did get it running once by hot wiring the fuel pump relay and auto shut relay under the hood.It ran for about a week then quiet.My check engine light does not come on when I turn key on so I can't read any codes If your husband gets any advise could you please let me know Thanks George [email protected]
  • Not every time, but if my 2001 Dakota sits more than about 7 hours, it is very hard to get it to start. Any thoughts.....
  • Your problem applies to later models of Dakota. Ask 2001 and up. 1995 models have other issues that are not related to 2001 or 2002 model. fuel pump is the answer.
  • So you are saying that although I can hear the pump come on, there is an issue with it ?
    If that is the problem, then thank you, it is getting very annoying....
  • I have a 2000 Dodge Dakota with 55,000 miles. I am the original owner and there have been no prior issues with this vehicle.
    Over the last summer, I experienced an intermittent rough spot during acceleration. I installed new tune-up parts and ran some injector cleaner through the fuel and that seemed to clear things up, however about 6 weeks after the new parts were installed, the truck was slow to start one evening after being parkedand unused for 2 weeks. The truck eventually started and appeared to run fine, but 10 miles down the road it stalled (while being operated at 50 mph) and refused to start.

    The truck was towed to a repair shop, where they said I had a bad battery and installed a new one. I picked the truck up the next day and it again appeared to run fine. The next time I drove it (3 days later), it again stalled about 10 miles out and while being operated at 50 mph.

    The mechanic had the truck for about a week and it started fine for him, then one day after he put about 25 miles on it, the tuck stalled.

    This time the mechanic replaced my fuel pump and cleaned the injectors. When I picked up the truck it ran like new, but refused to start the next day. I waited a day and tried again, still wouldn't start and it was towed into the shop - again.

    The mechanic has had it for a week and when I called him today, he said the truck started just fine for him. Any ideas on what could be causing this? I am the original owner and this truck has been well maintained.
  • dustykdustyk Posts: 2,926
    Well, the mechanic should've been able to retrieve a trouble code(s) from the PCM. Has he mentioned it to you and what they were?

    There are two possibilities that come to mind, especially on your vintage Dakota: A faulty ASD Relay or Fuel Pump Relay. If either relay is intermittent or there are bad connections in either circuit, this symptom will be caused.

    Regards,
    Dusty
  • Thanks much for the info, I'll get with the mechanic tomorrow. They told me there were no error codes, so they were pretty certain it was the fuel pump, which proved only to be a big expense for me. Such is life on a small Alaskan island.
  • Hello again Dusty,

    I spoke with my mechanic and he advised the relays have already been replaced and were among the fist things he did. He asked that I bring the car home and if/when it breaks down again, call him to the scene so he can diagnose the problem as it occurrs.

    Sounded good to me, so I brought the car home and used it for a few days. There were moments when the truck started to lose power, just as before, but this time instead of putting my foot down, I backed off the gas pedal and the engine smoothed right out.

    Well, I went out to use it today, but the truck fails to start again. The engine turns over just fine, it simply never starts. The mechanic is off for the holiday weekend, so I can't reach him until Monday (this is Friday afternoon).

    So, to recap; the battery, fuel pump, ASD and fuel pump relays have all been replaced. Only a few months ago the plugs, wires, air filter, cap & rotor were replaced. When put on a computer, no error codes are found and this vehicle desplays an annoying tendency toward "Tecnician Proximity Syndrome". There is an occassional hesitation under acceleration (maybe once every 12 - 15 miles) and the engine occassionally refuses to start. We are all stumped here. Any ideas are greatly appreciated!

    Tom
  • dustykdustyk Posts: 2,926
    At this point my only suggestion is to start with basic troubleshooting and first determine whether its an electrical problem or a fuel delivery problem. This will require taking measurements.

    My apologies, but I forgot the year of your truck, but if you've got plug wires you either have a 3.9 or 318 motor. That means you have a Crankshaft Position Sensor and a Hall Effect Pickup Sensor in the distributor, both or which are candidates (depending on the year, the Crankshaft Position Sensor is a strong suspect). But I hate to make these suggestions because it may only encourage more shotgunning and that usually proves to make a situation much more frustrating and expensive.

    Of course, a problem like this is difficult to resolve because its intermittent, even for the most capable technician. You are at least fortunate at the moment because its in the failure mode. Now's the time to make some forensic observations and get some readings. In lieu of have a service manual or good diagnostic equipment, I would start looking at electrical wiring, especially connectors. These are often the source of intermittent problems on Dodge trucks.

    A friend of mine was conveying a similar problem to me on a Nissan Frontier just a couple of months ago. That problem turned out to be an intermittent ground connection on the body because a ground strap had just about corroded away (not entirely, though).

    Best regards,
    Dusty
  • The problem has finally been resolved - water in the fuel tank! The temps dropped here (I live on an island in Alaska) and the water froze. The mechanic drew about 2 cups of water and a large chunk of ice out of the system, then ran 2 bottles of heat through the tank and all appears well now. I've had the truck back for over a week and have used it daily with no problems, despite single digit temperatures. I will be adding a can of heat with every new tank of gas for a while. Thanks again for all your help with this.

    Tom
  • I had the same problem w/ my truck. I replaced a lot more before seeking help. Under the fuse box near the firewall on drivers side is a juckion of wires inside the harness there are 3 different color wires. Usually all 3 sets are corroded. Cut open harness, clean all 3 sets & either resolder or use wire nuts to secure. Then retape harness. when your done with this you need to check the pcm because those wires being corroded causes arking in the pcm & somtimes ruins it.
  • see message #81
  • I ended up resolving my issue too.
    It was the coil wire. But in the process I discovered I had the original battery in it still....7yrs old ! A bit overdue I would have to say.
    Thanks for everyones help in pointing me in good directions to trouble shoot.
  • doc44doc44 Posts: 2
    I have a 97 D. Dakota low mileage(less than 60,000) when starting up it is completely dead until I bump the gear shift around a little, then it starts right up. It would only do it once in a while, then when cold weather hit it does it just about daily.AUTOMATIC.
    Strange but it stared happening after I had fluid changed last year. Any ideas???
  • I have a 2000 dodge dakota with the 5.9l in it. She's been really good to me, starts like a gem. It sat for maybe 7-10 days and it got a little cold out. I went to start it and nothing, I thought it was probably the battery. Replaced battery and still nothing. A friend said it might be the starter sometimes the cylinoids stick. O.K. replaced the starter, still nothing. Any ideas, when I say nothing happens I mean gauges work but no turn over, virtually no noise even. IT is an auto,gas fuel and 68000Km on it. Thanks
  • My dakota doesnt always want to shift into gear. It sits like its in nuetral or sputters when beginning to drive. took to auto zone they said code was for small vacumm leak but everything was checked. he suggested it could be trans selonoid.
    :sick: :confuse: :cry:
  • ramrod21ramrod21 Posts: 1
    I have a 97 dakota 3.9 I was on my way to work one morning going about 50 and it just cut off and i couldn't get it to restart until about 10mins later but ever sense that morning now my truck turns over and over for about 5 to 6 secs and then cranks before it always fired right up can any one help me
  • Help!!! my 92 dodge dakota cranks but wont start in the morning. once started it runs like a champ but will cut off sometime while driving. I have replaced the PCM, crank sensor, and have tuned it up with new plugs and wires. I'm thinking it electrical because somethimes i can disconnect the PCM and reconnect and it starts. any suggestion to resolve this problem? the engine is a V8 5.2. Thanks
  • :confuse: I have no idea about vehicles. My Dakota has been sitting for months. Due to the fact that my brake pedal was going allt he way to the floor when I tried to stop. My g/f has been driving me to work, and she is frusterated with me. I would go out every few days and make sure that it still started. It did everytime. It had been about 2 months since i had started it until today. I finally decided to take it to a mechanic, and when I went out and started it, it fired right up. Then about a minute later it just shut off and will not start again. I can smell fuel when I crank it over. So I just assumed it was flooded. But like I said, I have no clue about auto repairs and would appreciate some help. If anyone knows what the problem could be that would be great. Thanx
  • mnmguymnmguy Posts: 1
    My 03 Dakota is starting to the same thing. Was the fix for your dakota the trans selonoid? Informed that mine could be a variety of things, trying to narrow down if possible.
    :( :confuse:
  • seleneselene Posts: 10
    Ron,
    Could it be that when it sits out all night, there is condensation buildup on the spark plug wires and if they are old, they are arcing to the engine and not getting full spark to the plugs? Then, after it has warmed up and dried, the problem goes away. Try starting it in the dark when the engine is cool and see if you can see any evidence of sparking. Just a thought.
    S.
  • dylanzoedylanzoe Posts: 1
    I have a 1997 Dakota with the 5.2l. Replaced the starter, but still wont start. When I turn the key, I hear one click from engine area and then nothing. Lights stay brightly burning and have all dash and instrumentation lights staying on before, during, and after trying to start. What should I check next?
  • bmrjoycebmrjoyce Posts: 8
    Check your battery cable (pos) for corrosion or a break. Also check your GROUND!!!
    I'm not sure on this year but my Dakota has a starter relay in the small electrical box drivers side.
    You might also try the DODGE Forem, this sight specically for dodges only.
    Good Luck! Rick J
  • did you have the injectors removed and cleaned or did they do it with them in the fuel rail? if they did you'r catalytic converter is proboubly plugged up. the chemicals used to clean the injectors is hell on the materials in newer converters. hence the lack of power and black exhaust discharge. hope it helps.

    ps. you should never have to get you'r injectors cleaned the injector cleaner that you poure in with you'r gas once in a while is more than enough to keep them clean. and if you don't like to use cleaners than just fill up with higher grade gas once in a while because the have more detergents and cleaners than regular gas.
  • dleechdleech Posts: 2
    I have the exact same problem with my 2002 quad cab auto, i recently replaced fuel pump, and a year ago got a full tune up. The problem still exists! did you ever find out what the problem was?
  • dleechdleech Posts: 2
    I have a 2002 quad cab dakota, 4x4, auto, 4.7. A few months back my truck began having hard starts in the morning, i would have to crank the engine for about 6-8 seconds before it starts. after running it, it will start no problem. if i leave it for an hour or two, it will have a hard start again, also i have a strong gas smell from the exhaust once started. i recently replaced fuel pump and the problem still exists!
    please help had a complete tune up 1 year ago
  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,516
    Those are symptoms of a weakening electrical system. Have the battery, alternator, and starter tested.

    kcram - Pickups/Wagons Host
  • srs_49srs_49 Posts: 1,394
    If the battery is original, that's the first thing I would look at or replace.
  • shopdog97shopdog97 Posts: 160
    Here's what I've been experiencing on my '98 Dakota 4X4 with the 3.9 V-6. It happened to me before and I didn't pay very much attention to it at the time. But last month I went to start it in the morning, and all I got was a click. I decided to pull the starter and have it tested. Did this and the starter was fine. Then I wondered if the battery cables were bad(the battery itself is fine, about 4 years old.) Now I didn't have a meter to check resistance at the time, but I cleaned up both the positive lugs where they attach to the starter as well as battery posts. Did the same for the neg. wire. I had no issue till the other day when I went to leave for school. A "click"was all I got! Finally it started. Did the same thing when I came out of school to come home, and this time I moved the shift lever from Park to Neutral and it still wouldn't start. I played with the lever moving it up and down and it fired right up! I thought it might be the Neutral/Back up light switch that's screwed into the trans, but I read in my service manual that that's only bad if you can start in anything else but park and neutral. Now that's not happening, so I think it's OK. But the manual also says that the Shift Cable might be out of adjustment, and that would make sense if the truck starts after I get done moving the lever up and down. And I used the truck today, and it was fine, started right up at home and at the store with no issues. I'm gonna take a look at the cable soon, but any help you can provide will be deeply appreciated. BTW, I tried to get a new Positive battery cable at Auto Zone with no luck. It's a Dealer item at a cost of 87 dollars if you ever need one. Probably best to go to an electrical supplier and get what you need to make one for a lot less!
  • doc44doc44 Posts: 2
    My 97 D.D.acted the exact same way, drove me nuts... it was the starter the whole

    time. Replaced and has been fine since.
  • 1996 Dakota SLuT 3.9 V6 Automatic.

    2nd time this has happened:

    Backing up (with a load in the bed) into my driveway (slight grade) and the truck dies. Try to start it and it only turns over. Went through all the fuses and also under the hood wiring. Bought a used computer and it started right up. Drove 70 miles that same day, got home and it did the exact same thing... backing in to my driveway...
    >>>Weird thing is (both times) the Cruise Control button light (green light on the on/off button) on the steering wheel stays ON... even when the key is off and out of the ignition.<<< Now I have 2 bad computers... or can they be cleared/flashed or what?http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/townhall/webxi- cons/emotorcons/emo_confused.gif

    Might consider rolling it over if I can just get it running again...http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/townhall/we- bxicons/emotorcons/emo_wink.gif

    Thanks in advance for any help...
  • My truck has been doing the exact same thing for months and no mechanic can give me a reason for it. Everything checked out fine with diagnostics, yet the problem persists. Have you had any luck with finding a solution?
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