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The mechanic said that he noticed this issue on the new honda pilots and the more you drive it the worse the problem (leak) will get.
Does anyone else have this issue?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/05/AR2010090502878.- html
Chris
Point is that Toyota has admittedly been slow to fess up to problems and Honda is doing with these transmission FAILURES! Yes, failure of the transmission is a big deal.
http://blogs.consumerreports.org/cars/2010/10/2010-annual-auto-reliability-surve- y-best-and-worst-vehicles-by-brand.html
it supposedly applies to Pilots too, they just don't specify the years. I was hoping that the later models would be ok but apparently not. Looks like we too will never, ever buy another Honda/Acura product and we have been loyal for years.
Thanks & Cheers !
I have the exact same problem and my local mechanic figured out that it could be related to the recall of the vehicles up to 2003. Now of course Honda has come back and said that it does not implact my 2004 Pilot and wanted me to take it to the dealer to have it checked out. I have the same motor mount and Torque Converter issue and they say that my tranny needs to be replaced at $4500, waiting for the Honda CS to call me back right now, but having the knowledge that this has impacted others will hopefully help me out in dealing with them.
Thanks fellas!
Anyone have thoughts on getting Honda to pay more for it? I wouldn't mind paying for labor, but they need to at least throw in the tranny instead of covering all their costs and just removing their 50% markup on parts and labor...
Dealer estimate $4,500 for a rebuilt installed!
Honda regional gave me a real hard time but after several letters and half a dozen calls to national, got a deal for $2,100. My take: They know there is a problem and will give you an at cost replacement if you make enough noise.
Just called my dealer here in NJ- my '08 Pilot EX with 29K miles- wont shift from D to D3- from any position; Park or slow moving from D. Is my trans shot? I have an appt for a test ride with a tech on Monday. My shift lever does not have a button. I am out of bumper to bumper and assume this is still powertrain- hopefully they wont give me some cock and bull story or runaround. Thoughts?
Thanks,
-Larry
Lg2207
I replaced them and still have problem. I also replaced fuel pump but same thing. Somebody suggested catalytic convertor . I have 160,000 miles on it . I bought it with 36000 on it. It does not hesitates when cold . weird ??? any thoughts. Also my vtm-4 light occasionaly comes on after hitting a bump but eventually goes out. I can`t use 4wd when this light is on. If I shut engine off and restart the light goes off and I can use 4wd again.
try this: unplug the EGR connector. The VTM-4 and Check Engine lights will probably come on but the car will run fine. I also had misfire codes for all cylinders.
you can search at piloteers.org
I tried to replicate the vibration issue when I picked my vehicle up from the dealer and even though I tried several times, was unable to do so. On the way home from the dealer however I was able to replicate the issue after I tried really hard to basically get into 4th, then lay off the gas, bring the rpm really low and then slowly give it some gas while going up a slight incline - too much incline or too much gas and the vehicle would downshift and there were no issues, so I had to have the conditions just right. Even though this was way better than before when I could reproduce the vibration at will, I was still unhappy about being able to reproduce the vibrations and complained to the dealer. They wanted me to come back in again, but I decided to wait and see what happens.
Since then it has been about 3 months and I have put on 3+k of mixed driving on the vehicle. Although I think I have felt some minor tremors, I have really been unable to reproduce the major shudder and noise that I used to have before and I really feel that whatever was wrong with the vehicle before is no longer an issue now. I think that I can only attribute the issues I was having to the Pilot tranny being extremely sensitive to the type of fluid in the tranny, level of adherence to the maintenance schedule for the fluid, and possibly the level of tranny fluid in the system, it seems like once these conditions were fixed, the problems that I was having have basically gone away.
I love my Pilot again. It is an awesome vehicle for what I need it for. I could never see myself driving a minivan and this is and was the only vehicle that could offer the convenience of a minivan with the style of an SUV and one of the best fuel efficiencies for its class of vehicles. I don't think I will be going back to that first dealership again...
after just replacing the transmission.
BTW, my quote from Honda was $5400.
Now, to the NHTSA (www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov) site to file my complaint.
Two days later, D4 light blinking again. Send husband with car -- get a "goodwill gesture repair" for a torque converter exchange and some sort of new computer that we're told is worth thousands. No car for a week.
Two days later, blinking D4 light again. Back to Honda -- Honda Service consults with grand poobahs in California -- Honda Service tells us we need a new transmission at ~ $4,000!! After lots of heated discussion, price reduced to $1000. No car for another week.
What's interesting is that I take my car in for an oil change and Honda Service pesters me for days for feedback on their service. Have not heard from Customer Satisfaction people on my last four visits -- guess they know not to call.
Posted this in case there's a trend with the 2005 transmissions.
Janelle
I would also be interested if going to the NHTSA helped. Thanks
If I know there was ticking time bomb in my Pilot, I would have traded it in about 30K ago.
Honda owns at least one transmission factory and even if they relied solely on suppliers with long term contracts, they wouldn't be locked into design specs. They may have to renegotiate price a bit, but suppliers are always tweaking parts for the manufacturers.
Just found another Honda transmission plant - this one is in Ohio.
Is that the fix for this? I've tried to search for a fix, but no clear answers on this site.