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I'm glad you got one of the trucks with the AFM working correctly and gets good gas mileage. Consider yourself lucky!
Take Care
Apparently, some owners don't realize that their poor gas mileage, at normal highway speed (around 70 MPH) is because the AFM system is not working as advertised by GM and their sales people. If you are not getting the gas mileage you expected, that's probably the reason. The hidden surprise is, THERE IS NO FIX, according to the GM engineer who looked at my problem. When you test drive one of these, be sure and check to see if it's working properly. Apparently some do, and some do not. And most of the sales people don't really understand how and when it works. They will tell you anything to get you to buy it. BE CAREFUL and verify what you are told. Talk to the mechanics, if you can.
You don't buy these for mpg. You buy them for utility. If you don't need the utility, stick with a crossover or sedan, there are many excellent choices in both types.
I tow a travel trailer with mine-that's why I bought the truck.
Once you drive over 70mph-you are NOT GOING to see the 4cylinder mode come on.
I think some on this board were "SOLD" the truck rather than buying it by choice and regret the less than stellar gas mpg once the "ownership experience" set in. Now, they are putting the blame on GM instead of squarely on themselves.
Obviously, you had some major twisting or misrepresentation of what the truck is designed to do. You were sold something you shouldn't have purchased. It's not GM's fault.
If you bought a computer from an HP dealer and it was represented to have 7 GHz. When you fired it up and saw it only had 5 GHz. Don't you think HP or their representatives should make it right. Or, should you just say, it's all my fault, I shouldn't have bought it anyway, that's way too much capacity for me. OH, and by the way, I want you to keep the extra money you charged me for it! I should have known better. Thanks for the time you took to sell it to me.
As it stands you have one of the worst case of buyer's remorse/regret I have seen.
GM is not going to write a separate software program (even if it's possible) just for you because you bought too much vehicle for your needs.
Move on...I know I am.
I see you have posted here over 1500 times.
I am moving on....I'm glad to see you will be too.
Been a member many, many years.
I am asking our Technical Assistance Center about your question pertaining to the 6% throttle/pedal setting and how it relates to the activation of the AFM system. Thank you for your patience – I will post the information as soon as I have heard back from them.
Best,
Sarah
GM Customer Service
Can you find out if there is a tech. bulletin about the 6% throttle corrections or adjustments? I don't think most of the dealers will know. This may or may not be my problem. If they have read my truck symptoms, as them if they have any other ideas that may work.
Thanks again.
Here is the information that our center responded with:
“There are multiple Parameters that must be met for the cylinder deactivation to become active. One of the parameters is the throttle angle of 6% or less. Even if the throttle angle is less then 6% the cylinder deactivation will not become active if the other parameters are not met.”
In regards to any further diagnostics, the center did rely upon the engineer who has looked into your vehicle per one of the Service Requests open with us and did not make any further recommendations.
Where tech bulletins are concerned, there are none posted in our database at this time.
I hope this is helpful for you,
Sarah
GM Customer Service
Somehow I think others will not be happy with this information.
Thanks for your response, Can you ask your GM Tech. if the AFM is designed to work at 70+ MPH on level highway, not hauling anything or pulling a trailer. Some owners say their AFM works above 70 MPH. Others argue confidently that the AFM is only designed to work below 60 MPH, on level highway.
According to GM's "Cylinder Deactivation System Description" Document ID: 1995547, two of the parameters are, the vehicle speed must be more than 15.5 mph and the engine speed is between 700 and 2800 rpm. On my truck, 70 MPH is about 1900 RPM. My AFM stops working on level highway between 55 -60 MPH. I sure would like to get a definitive answer before I take my truck back in for service next week.
I have never driven in those "ideal" conditions".
Even on my 20 mpg trip, the AFM wasn't on all the time.
Congrats for such great mpg.
Was the fuel pump replacement done at a GM dealership? If so, we can follow up on that. Please email us more information, including your name/username, involved dealership, and contact information.
Regards,
Sarah
GM Customer Service
I get about 15 city 16 on level highway above 65 MPH. Not loaded and I don't have a heavy foot. gas - Shell, Exxon, Chevron
321 miles divided by 21.2 gallons gas = 15.14 MPG city miles 50% highway 50%
Since the Active fuel Management is not designed to work above 65 MPH on level highway, I can't get the fuel savings at the highway speed of 70 -72 MPH. I don't know why they designed it that way, but GM says that's normal. Are they lying to me ?
It would appear that there is more at play than the AFM not working. It would not contribute to only 16mpg highway if it WASN'T WORKING.
Your mpg will suffer greatly at speeds above 70mph.
Your mpg will suffer greatly at speeds above 70mph.
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No kidding!! I think you're right! It would appear that there is more at play here than the AFM not working. But there's no trouble code.
The fact is, it suffers greatly above 63 MPH, or less. A GM engineer checked it out and said it was working normally, even though he couldn't get the AFM to work hardly at all above that speed. At 67 MPH it doesn't work at all unless going downhill. It has stayed the same since I bought it and has no trouble code!
I can tell you what's wrong, though. It's hitting on all 8 cylinders, all the time, when the AFM isn't working. And that's pretty much all the time over 60 MPH. If you know the answer to this, will you please call GM and let them know.
I will not buy another GM machine - ever - and will tell everyone I know and enter on every forum I can find.
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The Camero is outselling the Ford mustang, it's not even close.
instantly responds to any negative post reference our gm vehicles. and he is on every forum.
chucks has posted and quoted numerous documents that are not available to the average customer.
when reading a reply from chuck1919 or chuck1 just remember that he is here only to refute any negative post.
that's what he gets paid for. (by gm)
However, I am nothing more than an owner of a 2011 Silverado 5.3 Crew Cab and not an employee.
I only respond to blanket generalizations or half truths by the 14 unhappy owners on this forum.
As it is - the trucks will get 20mpg (staying at 70 mph or below) with AFM on the highway. That's pretty good IMHO.
A better way to look at it is that GM sold almost a half million of these trucks last year, and most happy owners don't take the time to post that they are satisfied with their purchase decision.
those of us that do have afm issue are definitely UNLUCKY.
Yes it does appear to be a matter of luck if you get a vehicle that does not have this issue. No one on this forum has said that EVERY vehicle is defective but, there is enough evidence to validate the existance of a problem with the afm/6 speed combination. My dealer acknowledges this. When will you finally understand and acknowledge that these issues need to be addresses by gm.
Larry
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If you call 14 guys ON THIS BOARD out of a half-million units "evidence" then that's YOUR perspective.
Just saying.
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You're somewhat of a "Spin Doctor"
A more realistic calculation would be:
14 "AFM" complaints out of the number of positive "AFM" posts from new truck owners who actually visited this website. (Apples & Apples)
If you found the complaints, you can find the positive posts and easily do the math!
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He's gonna spin himself right out of a job if he keeps up with his phony facts!
I've been playing around with the truck in different 4X4 modes, and it seems like in 4 wheel drive the AFM actually comes on more often at highway speeds. Has anyone ever tried that and got similar results? I drive the same route daily, so one day in 2WD, one day in 4WD. I did see a difference.
I plan on taking it to the local dealer, just haven't had a chance.
Like others, I expect to get what I purchased. if a vehicle claims to get a certain MPG, I would hope to at least get close to that. I also agree with Chuck, in general, those that are happy or don't notice issues will not spend the time to post.
Looking forward to an update on how your dealership visit goes when you get the chance.
All the best,
Sarah
GM Customer Service
After +1300KM, it appears to be a little better on the highway. Still not near the rates posted when I bought it though. I honestly wish someone who designed this system would take a second look and see if this could be improved. Gas isn't getting any cheaper. I just don't know how to get that level within GM involved.
Hi Sarah. I did take it to a dealer. Even with me explaining fully the issue, they came back with "The AFM is coming on". I knew it was coming on. My issue was it wasn't coming on very often. Also, they said they didn't see any bulletins. (Maybe I'm the first to complain??)
After +1300KM, it appears to be a little better on the highway. Still not near the rates posted when I bought it though. I honestly wish someone who designed this system would take a second look and see if this could be improved. Gas isn't getting any cheaper. I just don't know how to get that level within GM involved.
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You're not the only one with this same problem. Just read back at some of the other posts, including mine.
You can forget about GM fixing the problem. For some reason if the AFM is not working at steady highway speed, it is designed to NOT trip a trouble code. Problem is, if they can't detect that trouble code, they don't see a problem and they don't know where to start looking. However, mine did show a problem ( at about 65 MPH ) with the MAP on their Tech 2 diagnostic tool , but GM told the Dealer service man "that was normal". That seemed strange to me because the dealer service mgr, who checks these trucks every day, didn't know what to make of it and called GM to see how to handle the problem.
It seems no matter what the problem is with the AFM, they say it is normal!
Maybe if enough people complain about GM's AFM problem, they will make some effort to correct it. It's probably in their ECM computer programing.
Mine is a 2011 Chevy Silverado Crew Cab 1/2 ton, 5.3, 6 speed automatic. Has about 8,000 miles on it. Has the same problem since bought new. I get 16 MPG on level highway, 15 MPG in town (they tell me that's normal)
Good Luck with yours!