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Idiots.
Adding "tint" on top of, "behind", the factory reflective surface material may not do anything more than darkening the interior.
Looking at the DVD and not nav and trying to see if the other stuff is worth the extra $5k or so.
Does this mean that there is a dvd player?
However, salesperson said you could watch the dvd playing on RES while car was in park....can anyone verify this?
Final price (including all (ship 800, fee 99, tag 290, MD 6% tax)) was $24511.
Is it a good price?
Does anybody know how to install roof rail on it?
While I was getting mine done a Land Cruiser was having tint applied, and he already had tint. The combined effect was limo dark.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100713/ap_on_bi_ge/us_toyota_recall
What is the point of watching 2 videos on one large screen? Isn't that very distracting and difficult to focus? It also blocks the drivers rear view. Wouldn't 2 separate DVD screens be a much better choice and smarter, both for those watching, and for driver view? It could be installed either on the roof or on the back of front seats.
Or do what Chrysler did. One regular screen for the center row seats and another one for the rear seats, for separate viewing choices.
I think that the idea of one wide screen is not smart. Am I missing something?
The dealership is now investigating what is happening to our batch atleast. It was purchased in July.
We opened a case with Toyota Corporate in CA. That was 2 weeks ago. So far, nothing.
IF YOU ARE EXPERIENCING LIFTGATE, SLIDING DOOR, ELECTRONICS OR BRAKING PROBLEMS WITH YOUR 2011 SIENNA, HERE IS WHAT YOU CAN DO:
You can ALL call Lawrenceville Toyota in NJ and report your problems, as the rep from Corporate in Tokyo is there. 1-888-369-9136.
The more Toyota Sienna 2011 complaints one dealership gets, it will force Toyota to look at all Siennas in an in-depth way, and they cannot call it isolated incidents that were caused by the consumers. They will not be able to to send each customer away just like that - if they get a whole host of reports at one location, regardless of what state you live in, they will be forced to address this isse.
Everyone with Toyota Sienna 2011 purchased within the last 2 months (May - July 2010) pls call Lawrenceville Toyota at 888-369-9136, ask to speak with George or Renee, state your minivan's problem, and atleast ONE dealership will be geting 1,000 complaints rather than 1,000 dealerships getting on complaint each. That way, Toyota Corp will be forced to address the issue that SOMETHING IS DEFINITELY DEFECTIVE WITH THE TOYOTA SIENNA 2011.
Thanks. Good luck everyone with your Siennas.
BTW I agree that winter tires are a great way to go with FWD.
I think that, considering the poor fit-and-finish of the interior, the Sienna is a great $25k car (powertrain and standard safety features are quite nice), but a TERRIBLE $40k-$45k car. I am regretting getting the Limited, wish I got the LE instead.
I shaved $6k off the deal back in April, so I was surprised at that great deal, plus a very low interest rate, and made a rash decision.
If you don't need the extra sun roof, lounge chairs, radar controlled cruising (which never worked in the rain and I live in Seattle), you could opt for an XLE with the Entertainment package. We just bought a XLE FWD with the premium nav/dvd and love it. Everything pretty much Limited except for the badging and the price.
What we love in 2011 - panoramic view, improved voice activated navi, longer sliding rear seats, 6 speed auto tranny, acura-like feather steering, dual screen dvd for the boys, ipod integration via USB
What we miss - fold-in rear view mirror, front and rear sonar (XLE premium only has rear sonar).
What we don't miss - poor mileage (AWD averaged 14-15 city), smaller engine (06 was smaller 3.3L), terrible stereo, run flats (3 sets in 55,000 miles)
"...while the redesigned Toyota Sienna is a very good vehicle, it doesn't measure up to the previous model, which has been our top-rated minivan for 3 years. The Sienna is still roomy and fuel efficient and has a smooth ride, but a drop in interior fit and finish and quietness, among other things, contributed to a drop in its overall test score from 93 (out of 100) to only 80 for the redesign..."
"... Toyota's redesigned 2011 Sienna is still a good choice among minivans, but it has slipped in our ratings. Fit and finish isn't as good as in the previous model, the cabin isn't as quiet, and handling is middling. it used to compare head-to-head with the Honda odyssey; now it test score is similar to the Kia Sedona's...."
"... The Sienna corners like a big vehicle, so it's not fun to drive. Steering is vague, lacks precision, and is too light..."
About the leg rest seats on the Limited: "...That's nice, but it's like having a first-class feature in coach because there isn't enough room for an adult's legs when they're propped up.."
"... The leather seats and switchgear are well done, but some dashboard plastics are hard and look cheap. There are many rough edges and minor misalignments..."
Of course they also have some nice things to say, about the roomy, open, airy feeling, big nicely padded seats, smooth ride, good engine/transmission; still, it's unusual that CR should rate a Toyota with so many complaints.
Hopefully Toyota is already working on an improved version........
The dash material is hideous to the touch. It is hard and rough. The surface pattern is similar to the Venza, however where the Venza uses plastic on the lower and soft, rubbery material on the top, the Sienna uses cheap, hard plastic all around. It seems like they were trying to do a textile pattern as opposed to the leather pattern on most vehicles, but in hard plastic it is very course and nasty to touch.
The pseudo-8th seat in the model I looked at wouldn't snap securely in place. I moved the seats around, took it in and out of place and there was no obvious damage, but it never seemed to go in right for safe travel. It was also much less comfortable, with the bolsters of the outboard seats squeezing into my sides, than the true 8th-seat of the previous generation and makes me really glad I got mine when I did.
Storage spaces are bigger, but fewer. Total storage space may be a wash with much bigger upper and lower glove compartments and a big bin in the console between the seats, but I like my '08s clever nooks to stick things into, like under armrests, under the passenger seat and the bin a the bottom of dash console- all gone in the '11. Then they take up a big chunk of the dash center with two awkwardly and uselessly placed cup holders. I also like that the center tray of our '08 will swing out of place an make a little aisle to move to the back.
The reclining seats look great in the brochures, but when I saw them in person they were just big enough for the family's 10 and 12 y/o daughters to put their feet up. This is as poorly considered a gimmick as Chrylers swivel seats.
The dash control layout did seem to work better than I feared from pictures. I have not taken any opportunity to drive the new Sienna so I can't comment on ride quality, driver experience or noise levels. But based on the poorly thought out and cost cutting interior, the '11 seems like it would be a step down from our '08. As one person commented, an OK $25k vehicle, but a lousy $40k one. It is a sign that maybe Toyota is loosing it's car making mojo.
I think Toyota is mirroring GM. GM got big in the '80s and '90s and built poor quality vehicles. They thought they could build anything and buyers would still pay good money to own them.
That's gotta hurt, comparing them to KIA. lol.
I sort of expected it to drop, but 93 to 80 is a fair amount.
I was planning to keep my 07 for a long time, so it doesn't really matter, I suppose.
Funny thing is sales are much higher. I guess people like the backup cam and 3-zone climate control. Those highly visible features outweigh the lack of a soft-touch dash, I guess.
The exterior styling does look good. Sales are much higher, as the first half of 2009 vehicle sales were in the dumpster. Any auto manufacturer that isn't seeing higher sales in 2010 vs 2009 should be thinking about getting out of business.
It's helping, though. That and clever marketing. Sienna outsold Ody in June, for perhaps the first time since....ever?
Now I have an '08 Highlander---same drill. This time I went straight to the shop, bought an Interstate, problem went away. Here's a clue--did you notice the Sienna's battery is not much larger than the one I have on my little ATV?
I just wrote Toyota a letter telling them it doesn't pay to cut corners as evidenced by the $125 battery bill I expect them to pay for.
My advice--get an Interstate and send Toyota the bill.
As more prospective buyers see pictures of the 2011 Odyssey, the rest of the 2010 inventory will be in high demand.
I took a look at an SE and was appalled by the quality of the interior, especially the dash. The dash design was hideous too. While I suppose it makes some sense to put the door control buttons overhead, the buttons were hard to make out by my 55 year old eyes.
Most odd (and I haven't seen anyone comment on this) was that the moonroof does not retract into the roof but goes outside and above it. This reminded me of something one might see on an econobox.
Toyota seems headed down the same suicidal path that GM took.
No, if you think about it that design allows for a "sleeker look" (styling) lower roof (2-3"..?), lower center of gravity, while still preserving head room for 6'2" drivers.
I used Toyota of Nashua, who was pretty average with regard to most of their characteristics except the "manager" was pretty darn quick with making a no-BS offer. I think the price I got was somewhat less than $1k under invoice.
I regret getting the Limited because of the poor interior quality -- it is quite nice for a van in the $25k-30k range, but completely unacceptable in a car that pretends it's a $45k vehicle. The little extras are not worth the $20k extra you spend compared to an LE. I hate the Navigation, its timing of the voice prompts and accuracy are terrible. It routinely tells you, "You have arrived at your destination" when you're actually several buildings away (yes, I can read the building number, but our $200 Garmin is much more accurate and buildings in New England often don't have numbers).
I tried to find a run-flat, but nobody seemed to carry one on hand (the size is apparently very unique). I had to "limp" home with a regular tire.
A lug nut apparently was cross-threaded on so it ripped the whole bolt off with it during the tire change. Once again, they did not carry a replacement so, on top of not having a spare for the regular tire, I only had 4/5 bolts keeping the wheel on.
I think Toyota forgot that quality control needs to happen.
If you get a Garmin, you can use that to get the speed. If you hit the speed while driving you actually get a simulated dash board. It's pretty neat.
I am looking at the 2011 Sienna.
Can someone compare the driving impressions between the 4cyl and 6cyl versions?
or can someone post their impressions of the 4 cyl?
Thanks.
Given the mass it's pulling, especially loaded up, I'd recommend the V6, which is powerful and still very efficient.
4cyl just a marketing tool. Toyota could say 2011 costs less, when bought with 4 cyl.
4cyl just a marketing tool. Toyota could say 2011 costs less, when bought with 4 cyl.
As for the engine, all I can say is that it did and adequate job. We were only two people with the air conditioner running and I drove on flat terrain. It sounded like a 4 cyl. engine but it did moved the van. The dealer quote was a bit over 25k dollars, so I think Toyota wants to use this one as bait.
While its time to 60 mph was a moderate 9.5 seconds, it feels plenty peppy, with its coarser acoustic and vibrational texture only occasionally penetrating your awareness ... the LE returned a pleasing 22 mpg.
The mileage is nothing special. I routingly do better in my 2007 V6, and it has a 5 speed auto vs. the new 6 speed. 0-60 in mine is around 7.0 seconds, a huge leap in performance with the same (better in my case) gas mileage.