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1)is it just a sporty muffler and tail pipe?"
yes
"2)the sport springs shown are developed in conjunction with Eibach. are these different from the eibach pro springs available from their website for the pro5?"
My guess is that they are different spring rates, but I suppose Eibach would be the ones to ask. Mazda doesn't specify their springs for the P5
"3)do the rest of the stuff fit the pro5 (stabilizers, struts)"
Stabilizer - yes
Struts - may be a little diff on the P5 (I wouldn't take the chance)
"the muffler from mazdastuff is noted as not being able to fit pro5"
True, the length is diff. That's why I listed the P/N for the P5 muffler a few posts back into yesterday.
BTW, Mazdastuff.com is just a Mazda dealer that sells factory parts and accessories below MSRP. If something is not listed on their site, give them a call. They can get whatever your local dealer can.
I'd have to do the same because my car is registered in the Chicago suburbs, but if I could register it here in southern New Mexico, I'd be golden. The population here is so low that pollution is a non-issue (they still have dumps you can take your trash to, recycling is still in its infancy, ONLY having 15 miles visibility means there's probably a dust storm kicking up, etc.) and they do not require emissions testing. If I wanted to go nuts, I could have the cat removed entirely and just put a straight-thru pipe in it's place. I would not be surprised if that's what a lot of the rice-racers around town here have done to get more power than a little Civic or Cavalier should ever have.
PS: If anyone is interested, there is a little teeny tiny thing about the Pro5 in the January issue of Playboy. They mention a few cars and one is the Ford Focus. They list a couple options for it, then mention the Pro5 and a few of its options. They point out that the Pro5 is a bit more expensive but is the one they'd take anyway. Me too after seeing the (12 I think) recalls on the Focus.
I am a Subaru WRX owner and have a brother in law with a new P5. Just like i'd like to recieve many WRX-related gifts for Christmas, I thought I'd get him something for his new phat ride. He's not really into doing a lot of labor intensive performance mods, and i only have a budget of $50-$75. So the question is, what would you get for your stock P5 with that much money (and where)? btw, no rice.
btw, i looked on www.mazdastuff.com and couln't find much in my price range.
Thanks for your help!
You could get him a nice car care kit, with waxes and a chamois, stuff like that.
A K&N filter is about $40-50, too.
Just some ideas.
-juice
Personally I just wish I could afford getting a low restrictive cat. They are just too expensive. A catback at least will give you better performance that hte stock pipe. It may not be much but I'm not willing to spend $400 bucks ona cat alone.
I did wait till we agreed upon a price, CReports wholesale plus 2%, but, they still undercut me, offer a low price for the trade, then sell it at 4K profit. They want to make their money either coming or going.
In the meantime, I decided to move and will need the extra money for moving expenses. Still stuck with the ZX3. Ugh!
1.) Is $16,999 a fair price? I feel that it should be lower.
2.) How can I get them to budge on the price? I would be satisfied if I can get the car for $16,750.
3.) Are most dealers this way about holdback? I have read several places that the only time you should bring holdback up is in my case, when you have a special order from the factory.
4.) Are these fees bogus? It sounds to me like some are, but again, how can I get around this?
5.) This dealer claims that the salesman get NO COMMISION, and only get paid a salary and customer satifaction bonuses. Has anyone ever heard of a dealer like this before? The dealer is called Royal Mazda, in Metairie, Louisiana. Dealer Link
-juice
Revka
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Our P5 is silver w/auto and moonroof. Out the door price $17900. We were able to combine the following incentives: S-plan, grad-discount and 0% for 36 months.
If anyone in S. Cal is interested in purchasing...I am more than happy to pass on my research results on prices...I found 2 dealerships willing to honor the S-plan, 2 offering $500 over invoice, 1 offering $800 over invoice and 2 standing strong for $2000 markup!
Two things I noticed about the new car:
1. I can hear some squeaking from the back of the car, but can't figure out where it's coming from...
2. I do take the long way home just to spend more time in the car=)
Re: squeaking, look around the privacy cover for the cargo area. Might have to put in some felt tape.
I got mine at about $150 BELOW invoice ... printed right on the card just below the E-plan price (for employees) ... no haggle ... no problem ... and no interest!
Moo01 - Adding the grad discount on top is a real neat trick!
One dealer tried to convince me that the S-Plan didn't apply to the P5 since they were "hot".
In the NJ area I'd recommend Flemington Mazda in a minute.
I've had two teenagers drool over it "Dude! LOVE your car!"
It's up to the dealer if they choose to accept it on any vehicle they have. If they think they can do better, they won't take the S-plan. Can't fault them for being in business to make money right?
If the car had arrived 2 weeks earlier, we could have gotten the "no payment for 180 days (expired 11/30/01)" in addition to all the incentives we got...but either way, I think we did well thru the process!
A dealer quoted me at sticker price last month just called and asked if I am still interested in that same car...he said the car is still "available" and his quote is still "good"!!!
The reason Mazda isnt building Yellow is due to cost and time. The paint process on the yellow is different from the others and Mazda can paint 4 other color cars in the same time it takes to do one yellow. Hence the reason to not build yellow...
In unrelated news, I went to Subway the other day and had one of the employees open the door for me. He was looking out the window and admiring my silver Pro5. He thought it was the Lexus wagon, and was a bit surprised to learn it was a Mazda.
I live in Michigan and to be charitable the roads here are mostly terrible. I drive a Mitsubishi Galant V6 with performance tires and the ride is pretty harsh. I can live with it but frankly don't want much more brain rattling of my elderly carcass (I'm 57).
Does anyone who owns a P5 live in Michigan? I'd appreciate any comments from them on their perception of the ride of the vehicle in this area. Sure wish I lived down south or out west where roads are much smoother as a rule. I don't think this would be much of an issue if that were the case.
but the notice sent down with the allocation (which is for Feb. production) info this week stated clearly that all yellow P5 orders will be switched to red....so unless it's an already scheduled incoming unit..6-8 weeks is a fantasy.
rich
The tires on the P5 are 195/50R16, so the sidewall height is 195*50/100 = 97.5mm = 3.84in.
It's firm, but rarely jarring.
Also, have you had a chance to check out Edmunds' New vehicle PowerShopper. Good luck.
Revka
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Revka
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I only have the single disc player in my Pro5 but it's the same unit as the changer. The only difference is a load button and a disc tray within the player. It plays just about every CD-R I've thrown at it (it has a little trouble with some black CD-Rs I have but they work). CD-RWs work but not all the time. They often don't read on the first (or second through fifth) tries. You may have better luck but I wouldn't depend on this feature. My mother's Tribute has the 6 disc changer and it's a very handy thing. I didn't like that load and disc-switch times were a bit slow but otherwise it's a lot more convenient than having a 10 disc in the trunk that you can't get to.
http://www.magnetbra.com/
Check those links out, it sounds pretty interesting, has anyone used one of these before?
Thanks.
Revka
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Product Info PDF file:
http://multimedia.mmm.com/mws/mediawebserver.dyn?IIIIIIrP0UXIbl3Ivl3IIINn1sLhhhhG-
Precut sheets for Mazda headlights:
http://www.bodygard.cc/headlight/mazda.htm
Precut sheets for Mazda front ends
http://www.chipguard.com/us_ret_mazda.htm
The body-protection film is 0.040in thick. If they're applied well (aligned properly, minimized bubbles, which will eventually outgas through the film, applied in temperate weather etc.), you'll barely notice it from a few feet away.
The only problem I've noticed is that dirt accumulates around the edges, and just under the edges. I haven't noticed any discoloration of the film. I've had them on my headlamps since early spring 1999.
Buy it. Make sure they don't add on any other bogus charges, and drive it home. :-)
I say go for it, it's a gorgeous yellow, which I've seen in person.
-juice
saw 4 yellow P5s on their lot. Guess they're not too much in demand here....
Erik
Bruno, from Houston.