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Does any one know where 2007 Civics are made? Are there any made in Japan? Also, I'd like to know if any part/component of Honda cars is made in China?
And some would say bigotry, but I won't.
A quality product is more the result of the design of the product than the person putting parts together.
North American Civics are made in Ohio and Canada.
I certainly don't see any 'bigotry' in the OP. It's simply a matter of experience based on statistical data. And stuff made in Japan has earned a good reputation due to the attitude and philosophy towards quality, in addition to stricter quality checks before hitting the dealers' parking lot. I own a made-in-USA Civic myself and must agree that there are few minor quality problems. But they don't bother me a whole lot. What concerns me the most is the stuff that are made in China. I do hope Honda won't compromise its hard-earned reputation by using parts made in China.
Before I bring it into the dealership, I'm wondering if anyone else had this problem and what it might be?
Thank you in advance.
I use trip meter A to track mileage between fill ups. I use trip meter B to track total mileage on long trips.
thank you for your reply shado4. now it's make sense.
It's the 1st time i have a car with dual trip meter. :P
Thank You,
David Kessler
Take it in when it reaches 10%. I change my own oil, my 1st was at about 6,500 miles and the OLM was at 15%.
Somehow, I think that if my mind was set on purchasing a new vehicle for how it handles, how comfortable it is, how it makes me happy to be in it (since I can't see the outside color from the inside), how it satisfies my needs, how it satisfies my ego, etc. I would get over any minor question of exterior color. At worst, I'd have it repainted.
For the extra $$ the EX has larger rear disk brakes, alloy wheels, moonroof, remote trunk release, variable speed intermittant wipers, 12-volt console outlet, premium sound system, audio controls on steering wheel, 7 speakers, outside temperature display, 60/40 split fold-down rear seat, chrome exhaust, blue ambient light on console, navigation availability AND Rallye Red paint availability.
You want ralley red. But you don't want an ex.
Deepen your relationship with honda (i.e. purchase a more expensive civic) and they'll give you some extra perks.
If you notice, even if you got an ex SEDAN you STILL COULD NOT get ralley red. Becasue ralley red is usually considered a sporty color, and the coupe emphasizes this. As does the si sedan and coupe in which you can get ralley red as well.
Even if color was NOT an issue, the extras that the ex offeres you are totally worth the price premium, even if honda does make you pay more for them than other competitors.
I don't think they have ever been amazing at color combos (i.e. my black ex had an IVORY interior for 06 and its not until o7 that they finally decided to give it a gray interior), but a lot of auto makers do this. Think you can get aurora blue or cosmic blue on the base mazda 3? nope. youll have to get a 2.3s or a mazdaspeed to enjoy those hues.
So while not every automaker does this, its not exclusive to honda, and they like to reward those who shell out a little more; you may not agree with it, but thats how they have ALWAYS done it. If i was a red ex owner, i'd hate to see a dx guy drive up with ralley red civic thinking he's hot stuff. :P
this carries on to the si as well. YOu want fiji blue pearl ( a color that actually was available on regular civics of the previous gen) on a new civic? sorry, you need to get an si to do that, same with habanero pearl.
As a matter of fact, its interesting to note that in the previous gen of civics (01-05) ralley red was available on the dx/value edition trim; kind of a way for honda to reward those who opted for a car with little extras.
Looking back now, I probably should've waited till the '07's came out and gotten the EX. Am I sorry I didn't wait...maybe a little. I'm still loving my LX and couldn't be happier. I guess it all happens to do with timing. Last year the LX was all I wanted and needed. This year, the EX would've been my choice.
That's what makes life interesting though, the life choices we make at different times.
The Sandman
P. S. If i had a true do over, I wish I would've checked out the Acura TSX...what an awesome car!
and his gripe could be applied to many different automakers, not just honda.
heck mazda wont even give you a hatchback unless you get the 2.3! even with honda you have a choice with regards to performance models.
And for sure, my next Civic is going to be an Acura!
the guy at the dealership said i should be getting 400 miles per tank, which i figured was a little out there but i really thought i would be getting better milage
Any "guy at the dealership" telling anyone about how many miles someone should get from a tank of fuel should not be believed. Miles per tank is virtually meaningless. The only true measure is actual number of miles driven divided by actual number of gallons consumed... that's Miles Per Gallon (MPG). Even that figure is only valid after averaging a few tankfulls of driving.
Miles per tank could mean many things, depending upon how large or small the capacity of a particular tank is.
Of course you do need to calculate what your actual mpg is, as you cannot really guestimate reasonably going by roough mileage and the fuel guage LEDs. But you should be well over 20mpg right from the factory (even with heavy, stop-n-go traffic). I agree that mileage figures should improve over the first few 1000's of miles, but break-in will not drastically alter it, just slightly improve it. Off the lot, in average city traffic, I'd be calling my dealer had my mileage been less than 25mpg - that's not right for a brand new civic.
P.S. my worst mileage thus far has been about 26mpg - a couple of weeks of only short trips with lots of idling at lights and such. My best was a shade over 41mpg, on a long afternoon cruise at 65-70mph along I-64. In theoretical miles-per-tank, that would work out at 340 to 540 (if I ran the tank dry).
if you reset your odometer every time you fill up, that IS the ACTUAL number of miles driven. you divide this by how many gallons you pumped.
a sales guy saying that she should be getting around 400 miles to a tank isn't ridiculous, as thats what i used to get; its to be expected. there is something wrong with her civic, or she is driving in the worst conditions possible.
acceleration, though should be just as good if not better. same goes for handling.
Gas stations in my area can be a long ways apart, so it is necessary to have a good idea how far you can go before you run out of gas. So yes, miles per tank is a very useful idea.
The calculated average MPG over several fillups is the best measure of how efficiently her vehicle is perfoming.
no one is disputing how to calculate mileage...but since she didn't point out how she is filling up (like you said) then we can't rule it out either. so if anything, its even more relevant than we thought.
Everybody has personal preferences. Nobody has to hire a decorator.
Your choice will be the best.
Truthfully, you can't go wrong with any color on a Civic. The light brown is nice also, but it does have the ivory interior...a deal breaker for me, as I prefer a darker interior.
The Sandman
Over Memorial Day I drove to the beach, just a straight shot on the expressway for 55 miles, no traffic, only one passenger, and the ac only used one way. I got 25 mpg.
My regular route to work was just two lights, then on the expressway for 15 miles, and right off into my place of work. Sometimes I didn't stop the entire way.
My driving habits have been quite moderate - no lead foot, speeding etc. Tire pressures are all 32. I am not hauling anything around with me. I do use the Air Conditioning.
Does anyone have any ideas about this, or have others experienced similar mileage? I took the car back to the dealer - service looked at it and said they checked the fuel injectors - they were 90 and 94 out of 100. They said no error codes were showing, and that there was nothing they could do.
I am very disappointed, as fuel economy was the primary reason I purchased this car over another. I do not expect to get what the estimates say, but I thought 30+ on the highway would be reasonable to expect. Any Ideas?
The Sandman
how far can you go on one tank?
my old civic used to take about 11 gallons. Going by that, i would have to assume that your tanks don't break 290 miles?
Yours sure seems to be low gas mileage, I would like to know if you ever find what the reason is. 5000 miles and 30% oil life is about the same as mine.
354 miles/12.33g
316/12.0
346/10.7 (this was mostly highway but at 70-75mph)
I bought a 2007 Honda Civic LX Sedan (Auto Trans) about a month back. I have noticed that while taking a turn, if I put on the turn indicator (left OR right) and then steer the wheel in the direction where I will be turning, I hear a 'click' coming from the area of the steering wheel.
I did some playing around with the steering wheel tilt and telescopic capabilities and still get the clicks. However, when I do NOT give a turn indicator, I do NOT get a click.
I also noticed that whenever I hear the click, AFTER the turn is complete, the steering wheel turns OFF the signal indicator. If I do NOT hear the click, my turn isnt curved enough for the steering wheel to turn the indicator off.
This tells me that the click is a mechanism instead of a bug. I never noticed this before but I have not been paying much attention before.
Is this something to be concerned about? Have you (other users) also heard a similar click?
I appreciate your reading this and apologize for the long post, punctuated with some capitalization (only added for emphasis).
Thanks,
Sharad
It is absolutely normal.
I have the same problem as kasturiranganr in my civic. I am almost certain that the clicking noise is not supposed to be there. The indicator sound that we hear when we put on the turn indicator is an electronic sound but apart from that I hear a mechanical clicking from the steering wheel area when I am making the turn. I get the feeling that its due to something getting worn out in the turn indicator mechanism but I am not really sure.
1st fill: 392miles : 11.25gallons (mostly highway)
2nd fill: 425miles: 11.95gallons (all highway)
3rd fill: 375miles: 11.5gallons (highway + local)
I have gone back to regular gas now. Going by my little experiment, I believe the fuel you put in your car does make a difference. I stick to specific gas stations for refilling my car because cheap gas "MAY NOT" be the best gas.
True, but there is a significant body of evidence that indicates that premium fuel will cause a measurable drop in fuel economy when burned in the R18 engine of the 8th generation Honda Civic DX, LX, and EX.
Best Regards,
Shipo
What year does the 8th generation of civic refer to? Does premium fuel harm the engine in any way other than giving lower fuel economy in these cars?
By my previous comment I was thinking impurities in the gas could be responsible for lower fuel economy in the car.
Regards
civic102
As for what premium fuel will do to the engine, the jury is still out on this particular design, however, as a general rule, extra deposits will occur from consistent usage of fuel that is higher than the recommended AKI rating for any given engine.
Regarding fuel impurities, I'm not sure what you're getting at here.
Best Regards,
Shipo
for my take, i do recognize that there are (sometimes) some notable differences between certain brands of fuel. Such as how each company mixes their fuels, incl. detergents and other addatives they might use. I've found and use a certain local station that consistently has lower (-ish) prices, but also has a reputation for a better fuel mix, which I have also seen in my car's performance.
For your comparison, I have an '07 Si, and driving around normally (about 60/40 hwy/city), I get between 31-32 mpg pretty consistently. On solid highway drives, I'm up to about 35, and strictly city (or more "spirited" driving than normal) I get about 29. I've got ~7800 miles (over ~6 months), and have tracked my mileage pretty carefully over that time period.