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Pontiac Grand Prix Audio, XM and Onstar
I have a 2006 GXP and this will be my last GM car. This was my fifth Pontiac. Yes, the 2006 has the speaker hum or the hum may be from OnStar that it is not compatible with the Monsoon speaker system. I have been going back and forth with CAC and was told recently that the New Jersey representative for my dealership said that the dealership offered to take my car to a Sound Diagnostic Center and I declined! I said that is not true. I haven't been to my dealership since Oct. when I had an oil change. I then called the dealership and spoke to the owner. He talked to the service manager and they both said they never offered me that and I said I know that but that is what CAC said. The owner said there is no remedy for this and anyway, he said, the radio would be fixed here, not sent out. CAC also said I had 90 days; the owner said you have a three year warranty. He said all the CAC wants to do is get rid of problems! Now, this morning, the car had not been used for over two days and keep in mind that OnStar is always monitoring the car but if it is not used for 48 hours they are not monitoring it because they don't want to wear down your battery. Well, this morning when I opened my door there was no humming. Now, I'm convinced that it is from OnStar. I would like to know who the New Jersey representative is who said that I declined to have my car sent to a Sound Diagnostic Center, which was not true. But after thinking about the Sound Diagnostic Center for a few days I was thinking that I didn't want any radio place messing around with my car. If GM can't fix it. How can some radio shop? Another thing last week I noticed that the words "Push Audio" on the radio don't light up as do all the other words above the buttons. Also, I live in North Jersey and used my car in the snow and the stock tires were fine!!!
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20 years ago today.
Well, OK – just over 20 years ago, I was in the market for a sport sedan. Same basic parameters that led to my purchase of a GXP in June of this year.
I bought a 1985 Maxima SE. Interesting to compare specs across 20 years:
. . . Maxima SE . . GXP (2005)
. . . . . . V6 . . . . . V8
CI . . . .. 181(3.0L). 325 (5.3L)
HP . . . 152 . . . . . 303
TQ . . . 167 . . . . . 323
WT . . .. 3100. . . . 3600
60 . . . .. 8.4 . . . . . 5.7
1Q . . . . 16.5@80 .. 14.3@98
EPA. . .. 19/25 . . . 18/27
Braking. . 173 . . . . . 174
Handling . 0.76 . . . . .0.82G
Trans. . . M5 . . . . . .A4
Tires . . .195/60HR15 . .255/45 & 225/50 x 18W
MSRP . . $13.7K . . . .$29.9K (w/dest.)
Actual transaction price (my GXP had an MSRP of $33K) was almost exactly twice what I paid for my 1985 Maxima SE in early 1985.
Those numbers do not likely sound very impressive to most, but for the time . .
Context \ others I looked at back then:
1985 BMW Sport Sedan 325e had a base price of approx. $22.5K!!!
121 HP – at 4250 rpm ( ! ), 2800 pounds, w/5-speed manual = 0-60: 8.6 and 1Q: 16.4@82
1985 Saab 900 Turbo 5-speed manual base price = approx. $20K.
8.5 / 16.5
1985 Mustang GT 5-speed manual base price = approx. $11.5K
6.4 / 14.9
1985 Corvette = $27K
5.7 / 14.1
Point is: My, my, how times have changed . . .
And my how the expectations \ standards in various automotive classes have changed as well over 20 years.
My Maxima was fun to drive and gave me good to excellent service over 2+ years and approx. 30,000 miles. But my GXP is so much better in virtually every respect.
Sources – primarily old C+D issues
- Ray
Older now, but not much wiser . .
I don’t think I have commented here about the speaker hiss \ hum – except perhaps to acknowledge that it does exist on my 2005.
Although your post does not quite say that this is the (only?) reason your GXP will be your last GM car, there seems to be a strong implication here that this is the case.
I am really curious:
Is this the only or primary issue that results in such a declaration?
Although I am old, and have been to a few Rock Concerts and also been exposed to some other rather loud noises over the years, my hearing is still excellent, in every frequency range – and this hiss \ hum does not happen to bother me at all.
And mine does go away once I start the car (typically within a few seconds after I enter the vehicle) – does yours also? Meaning, we are talking about something that never occurs while driving your GXP, correct?
Now, you have every right to fell however you feel about this noise, but my GXP does so many things so very well – and I enjoy the GXP’s dynamics so much every chance I have to drive it – that I am surprised by how big a deal this speaker noise appears to be to you. I am pretty amazed that even if you do find it annoying, that frustration about this sort of thing would rise to the level of souring you on GM & Pontiac - forever.
My personal perspective is almost diametrically opposite. This GXP gives me hope that GM (my last 3 cars were not GM) does have the both the vision and the ability to make (at least a few) interesting cars. For me, there are certainly a few items that I would change, or ‘fix’, if I were designing & building a car just for me – but the positive and enjoyable aspects (particularly at the price) so far outweigh any annoyances that I find this one of the most pleasant overall cars to drive that I have had in some time. And my last 3 sedans had MSRPs much higher (and actual transaction prices MUCH higher) than my GXP.
Again, I don’t think you should not feel however you feel – but I’d really like to understand.
- Ray
Very Happy GXP Driver – now that my new transaxle has been installed . .
Other than the above, I do like the car very much. I think it is very pretty. It has been my first four-door; I always get a coupe. I prefer the coupe, but Grand Prix, I believe, stopped making the coupes after my 2002 GTP. Now, the wheels on my 40th Anniversary Edition were beautiful; these wheels couldn't even compare to those special wheels.
My humming noise goes off after I start the car. I don't hear it at all when I drive my car. So because they put a problematic speaker system which they knew was in the 2005 into the 2006 (you think they would have corrected the problem or if not, don't put the problem in the 2006 -- use a different system). They just wanted to get rid of the junk -- they had an over-abundance of those speakers.
On another note, at my Christmas Party many of the other judges loved my car. They thought it was beautiful.
--Robert
doesn't work for GM
That's probably my biggest complaint with the car. Other than that, I'm still loving it with 15k miles. I'm hoping somebody can make some progress on the speaker thing. I've basically hit a dead end with any option I know of.
--Robert
I did swap out the rear speakers for some high end ones. Made a big difference, for an extra $200.
I'm interested in buying a 2006 GXP, and I'm trying to figure out which sound system to put in it. The Pontiac materials don't make this clear, so I wanted to ask the experts: does the UC6 6-CD player also play MP3s, as the standard one says it does? What about the U87? Thanks to anyone who can straighten me out on this!
-Ryan
Now, I would like to tell everyone about my experience with OnStar. I have had OnStar since owning my 2002 GTP and my "free" subscription on my 2006 GXP expires at midnight on August 3rd. They sent me a little telling me about the expiration and said I would not be billed until August 4th. I called and renewed and was told I wouldn't be billed until August 4th. This is a good listen to be learned -- never renew OnStar until the day before. When I got my GM credit card on Sat. they had already billed me 6 weeks in advance, $210. I called them; they were snotty. I said I wanted to talk with a supervisor. He came on. I explained the situation and told them since they took my money 6 weeks ahead of time I want a month's free of the safe and sound package. He said "no." They gave me 30 free minutes. I still wanted a month's free. I also told him that I have had OnStar since 2002 and they never pulled anything like this before. He didn't care. Still, no free one month's safe and sound package and he also told me that I shouldn't have renewed until the day before. I also told him that I would post this episode on Edmunds. He said "don't you say anything slanderous." I said I will only tell about your unethical practices. He hung up on me. I then called GM and they agreed with me completely. They put me on hold and then told me they filed a complaint with management and it will go before their management team.
That night I called OnStar again and got apologies. I said I'm sick of listening to your apologies. I said I want to talk to a supervisor again. I got another supervisor. Went through my whole story and ended up with two extra months' free of the safe and sound package, plus my 30 minutes. I just wanted to let everyone know how unethical they can be. It ended up okay hopefully. We'll see. I am supposed to get a letter confirming all of this. Chats1
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Mike
I recently purchased 2004 Grand Prix, everything was fine until one day cd player stopped working. I can not even put a cd in. Nothing stucked in it, i have no idea what is goin on, anybody can help me?
oh bu the way i am a new user, i hope i am posting this question at right place.Thanks all.
If you have only two then it you either have a bad radio or wires.
If you have four speakers like I have then you have a low Hz amp. under your glove box you also need to check.
I have a 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix. I am thinking about changing my factory installed Cd player with after market cd player. I have heard that that would damage car's alarm system.Has anyone changed their Cd player, ran into any problem? Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you
When an afternarket radio is installed, there is a bypass unit/adapter that you can buy to keep the factory beeps, as the beeps originally go through the radio. You can also get an adapter to bypass and relocate the stock radio to somewhere else (like the trunk) to retain these features. I have the first of the two.
The problem is that I think the radio keeps the date information in it. When you set the date on the DIC (Driver Information Center) with an aftermarket stereo, it displays only for a few seconds, then goes away and displays dashed lines where the date would normally be displayed. You can do this as many times as you want, but still, the date does not display permanently like before, when the stock stereo is installed.
Is there a way to get around this without having to get an adapter that bypasses and relocates the stock radio? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
LIARS I would have spent major money,for them to disconnect the battery cables and reconnect them.Oh and in a 2004,pontiac gran prix,the fuse boxes are as follows; one under the hood ,on the passengers side panel,and two is on the passengers side,inside the car as you open the door look on the side of the dash.
It appears that the bulb is burnt out in the display. How do I get to it to replace it?
The CD Player is only reading 4 of 12 CD's and has troubles starting even on those 4. Has anyone had the same problems? Any advice? It is an expensive item to replace and I would like to repair it to save money if I can.
Anyone know what this error is?
Thanks!