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At the urging of the dealer (who was just as frustrated as we were) we filed with the Dispute Board, our State Attny General, and had our lawyer write a certified letter to Ford threatening legal action. Our state (WV) has a statute that would have been a perfect fit for a lawsuit --- Before the Attny General could file anything and before the Dispute Board could rule, Ford made the offer and we accepted.
Mike
You might want to involve nearly every make of car with rear roll down windows. Wind buffeting is common among many cars.
MIKE
Drive a new one from the lot and see if it does the same thing. Even with the moonroof and only rear windows open (do that often at night) I don't have any wind problems. It's quite peaceful that way actually.
A moonroof deflector may also help.
'I was driving around 40mph, going around a bend, and then it felt like I lost the power steering went out and all the dash lights lit up'.
'dang, sounds like it stalled'
'No, I don't think so, I had to turn it off after I pulled over, I think the engine was still running when I did that'
..
'Where are you now'
'On the side of the road still'
'Did you try starting it back up?'
'Ok, yep, it runs fine now, make the call to service though'
Anyway, it started back up and she drove the rest of the day with no problems..
Interesting parts:
She really didn't think the vehicle stalled, her main concern was all of the dash lights and loss of power steering. When this occured she immediately started the process of pulling over. (she mentioned that the power braking was also not working). This is why she was in no hurry to try to restart the vehicle, because she didn't realize that the cause for all of her symptoms was a stall in the first place.
She said she had no problems pulling over or controlling the vehicle, she said without the power steering, the wheel fights back a little, but not even close to losing control.
I asked if she was going downhill, she said it was a very very slight downhill.
Appointment is scheduled today to have it looked at.
That's pretty much how my wife felt about it too. I was the passenger at the time of our stall so I knew exactly what it was and was able to tell her what to do right away. We were on a really steep winding side street hill at the time and she had no problem pulling over and stopping.
My wife was confused for a second too because everything was still on (radio, HVAC fan, etc.). If it wasn't for the dash lights, and the fact that she was braking, we never would have known the engine wasn't running. Maybe that explains some of your wife's confusion.
Checked a bunch of sensors, refered to TSB for stalling, replaced IAC, MAF, Throttle bdy assy, EVAP valve and reprogrammed PCM.
My check engine light also stayed on so for that they:
Replaced DPF EGR sensor.
In at 8:00am out at 2:30pm.
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Baggs,
Yeah, thats what I metioned to my wife (about all interior fans/radio/road noise still on) and thats when she said, well maybe it did stall..
In her previous experiences with vehicles stalling many many years ago (Olds cutlass and caprice classic's), you tend to notice when a 350cc V8 stops running.
Yes, I would think so!
Is this stalling a gender thing? Seems like the vast majority who experience are female. Do more females drive tribscapes or do the males not complain or what???
Other problems have included some leakage from the brake cylinder reservoir cap, brake warning light stayed on, and the tailgate creak. All fixed occured within the 1st 12 months & were easily fixed Current mileage is 23,000. The reports of tranny failures does worry me a bit
Has anyone looked into getting them replaced or cost involved?
Might be an easy thing to check (just as easy to remove the cross slats all together).
Odie
(proud owner of a 2001 XLT Escape)
Although it may have nothing to do with it I also notice a whining noise that sounds like the old rear end noise in past vehicles with rear wheel drive, also around 45 mph.
I have a 4x4 and I get the reeling the auto 4x4 somehow engages while on pavement and causes a binding binding.
Anyone have any info on these problems?
By the way, my 2002 Escape XLT stalled in June, had the rear wiper replaced last month, creaks like an old lady's rocker and now has a funky stereo. I'm so sad!
Thank you for all of your comments.
With This type of AWD activated on dry pavement, you get drivetrain "binding". The front and rear axles are locked together and will not allow one to move at a different speed than the other. Either the wheels scrub off the difference, or the drivetrain gets twisted (not likely, but possible).
I know this is true of the CR-V. Many drivers hear a whining noise during tight turns (steering wheel turned all the way) if the differential fluid needs replacing. I don't know if the Ford system requires similar maintenance. I woud be very surprized if this wsere happening at speeds higher than 20 mph. However, if you are experiencing trouble when taking sharp turns, it might be worth looking into.
Does anyone know how to determine the minimum service requirements for the Escape CD4E tranny that is required to keep the extended warranty valid. My local dealer is confused and says he doesn't know. I any not looking for personal recomendations on service trannys. I want the official FORD requirements.
Please contact the Ford Customer Relationship Center at 1-800-392-FORD or emailfordcrc@ford.com. They will help you find your answer. Anyone else who has an unanswered question can also use this contact information.
I sent an email as you suggested. Got a reply that they would respond in 3 days. 4th day is over and no response. Don't know why the question is so difficult for them. Every new vehicle I have owned since 1956 had a maintenance schedule in the owners manual for that particular vehicle. Looks like Ford could do the same or at least provide info when requested.
Both the HL and the Rx300 use a VC for torque distribution in low traction conditions. In both cases an almost totally non-functional VC, regretably.
Sorry for the problems. Please contact me offline if possible at lori_fitzgerald@yahoo.com and I will try to be of more assistance. Thanks.
Needless to say, I am very concerned about letting my 20 year old daughter drive her car until we find out what could have caused this and how to prevent this from happening again.
Does anyone have a similiar experience or answer?
Go to the following and read all about it.
http://www.escape-central.com/1forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2410
Anyone have similar experience, advice and/or guess on probable cause?
Unless you are leaving the lightson all the time or something...
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
about my former Mazda Tribute, Year 2001.
It rattled, it squeeked, it stalled once or twice
and Mazda's district service manager, was anything but nice.
"We're sorry your Tribute isn't just right, but with 3 years of warranty, hopefully you'll see the light"
13 times to the dealer, the light never came, so when the opportunity to trade arose, it took little brain to dump my "dream car" and move on.
So no more will I hear "Rattle, rattle thunder clatter Zoom Zoom Zoom"
Because in my garage for Mazda or Ford, there will never ever be room.
Thanks for allowing me to vent!!
Steve, Host
zmeenow, I too am a satisfied 01 Escape owner with ove 18,000 trouble free miles...
You need someone to find that short, and if it is warranty work, they will not be too happy, because it can take a while to dig around to find a short.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
I have not had the Escape stall once.
I have not had the Gas smell (except type caused by Bush's Baked Beans)
I have not had any rattle or squeak from the rear hatch or any door for that matter.
I have not had any wind noise to complain of (and I've been as high as 95mph)
So in all my wife and I are both happy with the Escape. In fact we have had more problems with her '00 Civic EX.
Odie
My current Escape might be getting a nice christmas present for http://www.autoanything.com in the way of a Full front end Grille Guard (with brush bars) and Rear Tail light Guards and Rear Bumper Guard. Just have to talk the Wife into allowing me to Purchase them. Because now that we have a baby comming, we gots to save our money. I'm probally going to be getting a Rear Seat DVD system (from circuit city)mounted on the ceiling, and even with the Sunroof it still fits.
Odie