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Acura MDX (pre-2007)
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wilkinte, "Mitsubishi Montero Sport" #727, 21 Feb 2005 9:41 pm
All good things come to those who wait, I guess.
Steve, Host
xenon240, "Acura MDX - 2005/2006" #136, 27 Sep 2004 8:33 pm
tidester, host
Thanks
If you have found a way please let me know at john.richard@ps.ge.com
Please keep the discussion here so everyone can benefit. To do otherwise defeats the purpose of a message board which is to share information, experiences and views.
tidester, host
Maybe you guys losing time are driving too fast.
But if you're driving too fast you'll run out of time quicker with or without relativity!
tidester, host
It does not even come as an option.
Do dealers install it? Has anyone got it done?
And you have the advantage that those red lights will be blue shifted but I don't think the judge will find that a compelling defense for running them! ;-)
tidester, host
use of regular unleaded gas in my 2003 acura mdx.
I tried it once and did not detect any knocks or
reduction in performance.
However, I am concerned about long term use.
My tests were: Used premium for many thousands of miles. Switched to regular for about 1500 miles. I do not use the on board trip computer, but used actual odometer miles and actual gallons added at the pump (since day one). Used the same pump at the start and end. Weather was virtually the same throughout the tests. Driving conditions were similar too - same roads, similar traffic, similar loads, similar speeds (cruise control used on freeways), A/C on all the time. About the same miles local and freeway. At the end of the test I did three acceleration runs from 0-60 on regular. The tank was virtually empty. The tank was filled and the acceleration runs repeated on the same stretch of road within 30 minutes, but now the tank was full with premium.
The results: Acceleration was faster by 3 to 4 tenths of a second from 0-60 using premium. This is significant. Mpg was 8% less using regular. This was confirmed over the next 1500 miles using premium as the mpg immediately improved to where it had been before using regular.
My MDX is an 02, but I have seen similar results on my other cars, so the chances are they will apply to many cars designed to perform best on premium, but that can run on regular.
I found that I quickly got used to the lower performance and did not notice.
As long as the engine electronics keep the engine from knocking there is little chance of doing damage to the engine by using regular.
I do believe Acura engine technology is advanced enough to tell the difference between regular and premium gas. Over this past weekend, our 2005 MDX got 21.8 mpg on a 850 mile highway roundtrip through the hills of western Maryland/Pennsylvania. Our 1996 Isuzu Trooper 5-speed averaged about 17-18 mpg for the same trip. And the MDX has 265 hp compared to the Trooper's 190. The Acura also weighs more. Granted, the Trooper used regular, but given its inability to climb some of the hills without downshifts and loss of cruising speed, I'm happy to fill up the MDX with premium.
Is one a better purchase than the other? They're both Acura Certified.
She can't quite swing getting a 2003, which from what I've read may have solved some of the problems that existed with the 2001-2 (noise, transmission).
Thanks for your help.
My mistake - the '01 was $26.5. As a matter of interest, Edmund prices in the NY/Westchester county area are $26.2/29.4 for private purchase/dealer purchase. I guess they hold value well.
She's still nervous, about such a big purchase for her, and will have another dealer mechanic check it out. But the Acura Certification is reassuring.
I admit being a bit biased against used cars. However, I do think $26.5k is overpriced for a nearly 5 year old vehicle (i.e. 65%+ of the new vehicle price).
However, I think a 4+ year old 2001 MDX for $24k-26.5k will prove to be the MORE expensive choice than a new 2005 Pilot EX-L for $30k - $31.5k (w/nav) in the long run. The additional maintenance costs and potential out of warranty repairs will be higher on the MDX over the next 4-5 years. Not to mention the possibility of a $2,000 out of warranty transmission replacement on a 2001 MDX. Based upon my past research, I believe the future (3-5 years from now) resale value of a 2005 Pilot will be at least $6,000 more than than a 2001 MDX, making up more than 100% of the initial price difference.
Again, my point is not that the MDX isn't worth a premium over the Pilot for the "appeal" factor of the additional amenities. That's a subjective opinion that I happen to agree with, given my financial situation. But for a dad who is trying to help out his daughter who is on a limited budget, the 4-5 year old MDX for $26.5k is NOT a the most economic choice in my opinion. If the appeal value outweighs the economics, so be it. But I'd be careful not to confuse the two.
I feel I got both by buying a base MDX back in Sept. for $33K - some $330. under invoice... :-)
Let me ask, why does everyone complain about the gas mileage? What other SUV has 265 hp, weighs 4000 lbs. and gets more than 23 mpg on the highway (don't tell me Lexus, because that car is smaller and also more $$)? Also, when you buy a car, you research the gas mileage, so there should be no surprises there. People sound surprised to me, like, "oh my gosh..... the gas mileage stinks; they need to make it better"....Did you all research this first before buying an MDX? One way to make the mileage better is to remove two cylinders! There are plenty of good 4 cyl. SUVs that get great mileage. Honda CRV, for instance. Not much luxury or power, but reliable and trustworthy just the same.
If you have the $$ to buy an MDX, you can afford the gas. Enjoy the darn car, it's awesome!
Can not decide between Pilot and MDX. I like the looks and space of Pilot, but headrest and lumbar support are horrible. Any thoughts on that. Also, are any of the cars have lumbar support for front passangers. If not, what car does, except VW passat. Thanks
FWIW, I do think the MDX seats are a bit more comfortable than the Pilots.
I read many boards religiously...have to say that compared with the Lexus GX470, the Jeep Grand Cherokee and even the Honda Odyssey, seems that MDX owners are most pleased with their vehicles/have the least problems. I attribute the low message volume on this board to that...people generally write out here more with problems/questions vs. just praise....
On a side note, my 2004 TL 6-speed can barely take me 200 miles of mixed driving (16-17 mpg) before needing a fill-up and even though the highway mileage is 28-29 mpg, the low fuel light comes on at about 350 miles. Compared to my 1995 Maxima 5-speed, where I could get 325+/- miles in mixed driving (22 mpg) and 450+ of highway (30 mpg). Even my former Honda S2000 managed 220+ miles in mixed driving (21 mpg) and 325+ highway (30 mpg). And that was with a 9,000 rpm redline. So I'm pleased with the range of our 2005 MDX, not with our 2004 TL.
P.S. The runner up to my decision to get a 2004 TL was the E320CDI. My marketing director has one and she gets 500 miles out of a tank in mixed driving, 750 miles on the highway. Standard tank.
i think igot a good deal..
so i would go for least amount of miles....
does anyone know how to get the acura extenede warranty???
whattype of service is needed at 20, 000? when maintenace light goes on??
thanks
Thanks.
A couple of extras I did get - the Autobahn (sp.?) front end protection (my CRV took a beating on the highway), Simoniz and lojack! I am getting used to the XM radio and feel like they have totally reeled me in by giving 90 days free! Enjoy your MDX.... :shades:
P.S. Why are the Sox off to such a rough start?