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  • chzbrgchzbrg Member Posts: 10
    Any idea where to purchase Isuzu Merchandise with their logo on it???
    Thanks for your help
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Not sure, but I'm sure Isuzu has some. I have an Isuzu hat, I'll do some research and see what we can come up with.

    -mike
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Check out my webpage...


    http://isuzu-suvs.com in the FAQ section. More specifically http://isuzu-suvs.com/faq/index.html


    -mike

  • gpm5gpm5 Member Posts: 785
    I see Sears advertising the 5000 shocks often. I assume they also sell the 9000?
  • drew_drew_ Member Posts: 3,382
    17" monitors? Not 19" monitors? :-) How about those LCD screens? That out to make your life easier! I use one on a daily basis.


    Drew
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  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Well haven't been doing a lot of hardware setups lately. :) 17" used to be the "big" monitor of choice. I personally find that a quality Sony CRT is crisper than LCDs. Although here @ work all the traders have 19" LCDs (3 of em) at their workstations.

    -mike
  • fiveharpersfiveharpers Member Posts: 53
    No wonder my 401k and other investments are going downhill. The equity in my Trooper looks better than my retirement future.
  • keepontroopinkeepontroopin Member Posts: 297
    Picked up the link to this site from the ITOG board. Go to the site and open or download the video and watch it. Pretty amazing stuff. I would suggest sbcooke get one of these before he goes out fourwheelin again. Check it out for yourself.

    http://www.safari4x4.com.au/docs/video.htm
  • crunchycrunchy Member Posts: 26
    Wanna know why your software costs so much? Because we developers have (2) 22-inchers! Not to mention we spend 1/2 our day reading these boards :)

    Sue
  • sdc2sdc2 Member Posts: 780
    I'm surprised there wasn't a listing for Bilstein shocks, I recall they were available for my 99 Troop, and the shock app hasn't changed since.

    Also check out OME (Old Man Emu), excellent shocks with valving applications specifically for Troopers (well, Jackaroos, actually).
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Chat tonight @ 10pm here on Edmunds! Link in the Owner's Club Area.


    -mike

    http://isuzu-suvs.com

  • gpm5gpm5 Member Posts: 785
    that's pretty amazing.
  • conman2000conman2000 Member Posts: 158
    Won't be on Chat tonight as I am going on a road trip. :( Paisan, Mark called me and is looking for an LS/Moon for me. We will see.... :)

    Cheers,
    Con

    P.S. On the Toyota, I like it too but I think they are not comparable; for one Price and two it is bigger(V8 and width) and has the third seat. If it was cheaper (even the 4runner is more expensive than the Trooper) it will be a better value. But if you have $35k+ to spend, I would get it as well. Just my two cents.

    Cheers,
    Con
  • lovingpclovingpc Member Posts: 34
    I know it was a week ago, but I wanted to toss my opinion in on the 2wd vs 4wd question. I have a 2000 Trooper Ltd 2WD I purchased one year ago. Living in Nashville, Tennessee, we see between 3-5 days of snow/ice during winter. Since I do not off road, I went 2wd for the lower price, lower insurance, and less maintenance (fewer parts to break).

    During our 3 bad days this last winter, the 2WD was a champ. The winter mode got me up hills easily, and the ABS stopped me in a straight line. While turning, I experience some skidding, but it was always controlled, and kind of fun!

    The 2WD offers the high view, high clearance, knobby tires, huge square cargo area, great powerful engine. I hope to get 7 to 10 years of use out of it, but since it is our "road trip car", it's putting on the miles much faster than our Maxima.

    Nothing against you off-roaders. I know TOD is sweet, and the 4 WD system on the Troop rocks. The only way to tell the difference from the outside is the TOD sticker on the 1/4 door on the back. With the tinted windows, you can hardly see it. I just wouldn't use 4WD enough to justify the $$.

    Andy
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I used to have an '83 Dodge Ramcharger in 2wd. If it didn't fall apart I'd still be driving it. If you don't use the 4wd, especially being down south, there's no need to drop the dough on it! For us in the NE, it's nearly imperitive if you are buying an SUV to get it in 4wd/awd :)

    Happy trooping.

    -mike

    PS: I know a ton of guys with 2wd that off-road em especially Rodeos and troopers.
  • vivayovivayo Member Posts: 32
    Andy says (among other true things):

    "Nothing against you off-roaders....The only way to tell the difference from the outside is the TOD sticker on the 1/4 door on the back....I just wouldn't use 4WD enough to justify the $$."


      My situation is pretty much the same, even if we do (usually) get a few more potentially snowy days here in Maryland. That's why I went for 2WD in my '01 LS. Course, for some strange reason, it has a TOD decal in the rear window.


    If anyone is interested, here's a web site that will calculate the percent of error in your speedometer when you change tire/wheel sizes. It says it's for Miatas, but I can't see why it won't hold true for other vehicles. http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

  • mdbimmermdbimmer Member Posts: 8
    We put a set of Edelbrock's on our 99 Trooper Performance pkg. I can't tell you what a difference this has made in the handling of the Trooper -- It's like night and day. We can take curves at least 10mph faster, with no roll. Edelbrock shocks cost a bit more, but they are fantastic. They are made for all Troopers. We got ours online, by the way. Shop around, and you can get a real good deal. Our local garage did the installation.
  • atltrooper1atltrooper1 Member Posts: 11
    I had the same problem searching for shocks for my '99. I found by claiming it's a '95 model the number of options dramatically increase.I think it just takes a while for the catalog people to realize that '93 thru new take the same shocks.
    Chris L.
  • mpb32mpb32 Member Posts: 5
    Hi All -
    And thanks in advance for your help. I am a bit confused. I am looking at a 1998 Trooper 4x4 with 37k. I see a very good report on Edmunds but Consumer Reports has nothing. Any advice aside from the typical wear and tear.

    Thanks
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    BE CAREFUL! More than 1 person on here @ edmunds put edelbrock IAS shocks on and wound up having them break apart on their '98-'01 Trooper. They may have been made for em, and handled great, til they broke apart. Check the owner's club area for more detail.

    -mike
  • bstreetbstreet Member Posts: 37
    Hi,
    I'm currently in my second Rodeo - a '98 with lots of problems. I"m going to get out of this car and into a new LS Rodeo or Trooper this month. Does anyone have any advice on which to choose? What about pricing? What should I expect on a LS Rodeo vs. Trooper? I'm thinking of buying vs. leasing this time, any advice? Thanks in advance....it's been a while since i've shopped around.
  • gpm5gpm5 Member Posts: 785
    The trooper is a great truck with few problems reported.
  • mpb32mpb32 Member Posts: 5
    I am thinking of purchasing a 1998 Trooper with 37,000 miles. The asking price was $16,995, but will be making an offer of $15,500. Is this too much. Has new tires with only minor scratches which will be fixed.
    Thanks
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    TOD? AT? Moonroof? Trim level?

    Those will weigh in heavily. Although off the top of my head 15.5 doesn't sound bad

    -mike
  • mpb32mpb32 Member Posts: 5
    Thanks for the reply. It has pw, pm, pl, automatic transmission, tilt, abs, privacy glass, dual airbags, alloy rims, ac, am/fm cassette.

    Not sure about TOD. It does not have a moonroof or roof-rack.

    From what I have been reading, the Rancho shocks are the only upgrade I would need.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    http://isuzu-suvs.com I have lots of good info there.


    -mike

  • mpb32mpb32 Member Posts: 5
    thanks...very helpful information. with those options, does that price sound about right?
  • sasquatch_2000sasquatch_2000 Member Posts: 800
    I would think they'd be afraid of unseen boulders under water. Of course, this is probably a "canned" test area.
  • conman2000conman2000 Member Posts: 158
    Hi,
    Seems like a lot of $$ for a 98 S The 98 S did not have TOD(but the higher models did though). I saw a 98 Limited in MD going for $16,800(dealer) so I assume you could find an S for under $15k. I have seen 2000 S for under $19k too BTW. If you have been reading my post here, I am too looking for a Trooper. I started looking at new but tried used to save some money but realized that the 0% fin. makes the new ones about $5,000 cheaper after you fin. a used one for 7.5%(best I can get for used cars). So for example, if you factor a 2000 S for $19k + 5k interest over 60 months = $24k and a new one can be had for $26k so for $2k more, a new one with 15k miles less than the 2000 makes the new trooper a better value(and the new car smell too). Plus where I live(NY), very few used Troopers so I have decided to go new(Paisan's Dealer is looking for an LS w/MoonRoof BTW). Good Luck.

    Cheers,
    Con
  • sasquatch_2000sasquatch_2000 Member Posts: 800
    I know it stands for Torque On Demand.

    What does this really mean, though?
    What year did it come out?
    Is it an option, or standard?
    Is it worth buying, or should I not worry about it (ie: I could get an older one without it)?
    Is it only for automatics, or standards also?
    I remember seeing a Trooper with a "Winter" or "Power" or "Winter Power" button for the tranny. Is this a precursor, or something different?

    Thanks in advance for any help.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    TOD = AWD system

    Available as an option on base model in '98, in '99, '00 and '01 std on all A/T models, A/T std equipment on all but base models in '99-'01

    In normal driving conditions if you have TOD engaged, you will have 15%torque to the front axle, and 85% to the rear, this will vary up to 50/50 split based on weight shift, wheel speeds, etc. You also have the option of 2wd mode which makes it 0/100 split. They also can be put into 4wd lo which gives you low range gears + locked 50/50 split of torque.

    Winter is on all the A/Ts post '96ish, this can be engaged at a stop when the gear selector is in D position. This will start the car in 3rd gear so that you don't break the wheels loose in mud and snow.

    Power mode moves the shift points to near red-line and provides more power for faster acceleration.

    I find TOD to be simply one of the best AWD systems out there, it only costs 1mpg in fuel economy, and gives you a rear wheel bias, while still providing power to the front axle, combined with low-range gears for the real nasty stuff. On road the TOD helps the vehicle grip the road in everyday dry, wet, sandy, dirty roads that I experience in the NE.

    -mike
  • sasquatch_2000sasquatch_2000 Member Posts: 800
    What about a situation where there is NO rear traction? Do you only get 50% to the front still?

    In any event, it does sound like a nice system.

    I would probably leave it in Power mode all the time. Many aftermarket computer chip companies add this feature.

    Thanks again for the info.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    If you are spinning the rears, you'll only get a 50/50 split @ max. The other nice thing about the TOD is that if you have no traction on any wheels (all 4 are spinning) the TOD system will actually pulsate the power from 50/50 split to 0/100 and back to 50/50 while you keep your foot on the floor. I found this to be great in deep Adirondack snow going up a 200' 45degree incline with 1.5-2' of snow on it. I'd get stuck and the power would shift around and basically walked me right up the hill. During the time that you have 0/100 the front wheels can grip so when the power goes to 5/95, 10/90 25/75, 40/60, 50/50 you are moving all along. A remarkable system IMHO. Also a lot if not all TODs also come with a rear LSD as well.

    -mike
  • sasquatch_2000sasquatch_2000 Member Posts: 800
    don't all manufacturers do this?

    is the trooper not the best selling suv?

    am i not driving one right now? (other than the topless allure of jeeps)
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    The unit is actually Borg-Warner.

    It's very frustrating to Trooper owners here in the US to see all the sheep going down the generic SUV path. At least our brethren in Asia and Australia/NZ realize the great potential of the TOD!

    I keep wondering why GM didn't use a beefed up version of the TOD unit in the escalade/denali, afterall GM owns 49% of Isuzu they could easily have borrowed the unit and beefed it up!

    -mike

    PS: Hopefully we'll be welcoming you to the Isuzu family soon.
  • bluedevilsbluedevils Member Posts: 2,554
    Just to clarify a couple points regarding availability of TOD, in case paisan's recent post didn't answer EVERYTHING...

    TOD is not available with the manual transmission. From model year 1998 through current (2001), manual transmission Troopers are available in 2WD or shift-on-the-fly (SOTF) 4WD. The SOTF is handy, but not as handy as TOD because it's not intended for use on dry pavement or other conditions in which traction is good.

    TOD is not available on 2WD Troopers.

    In 1998 model year, all Troopers were "S" models and 2WD was not available. From there, you could add the Performance Package. The Performance Package included TOD. The Luxury Package required the Performance Package; therefore, all Luxury Package Troopers also had TOD.

    In 1999, I'm pretty sure that TOD was standard on all automatic transmission Troopers. 2WD was not available this year; it was available for the first time in MY 2000.
  • conman2000conman2000 Member Posts: 158
    I looked at the 98-2001 cat. and you are correct on TOD.

    BTW, I am picking up my 2001 Silver 4x4 LS w/moonroof on Thursday. :)

    Later,
    Con
  • mpb32mpb32 Member Posts: 5
    Any suggestions as to where to buy a set of Nerf Bars?

    TIA
  • chzbrgchzbrg Member Posts: 10
    Well Paisan, i tried the silicon spray and thought it was working but its back. The noise is definitely coming from the transmission area. The sound is not bad mechanilly sounding, just souns like a duck. squeak squeak squeak, and it only occurs when it is really warm out or the truck is warmed up for a while. it occurs when you hit a bump and when you go to turn vehicle off. think it is coming from 4wd shifter but not sure. ANY SUGGESTIONS. you did say to spray the silicon where the shift lever connects to plastic base ???
    Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Dealer will probably say that cant find it and you know what happens when they start messing around with things!!!!!
    THANKS FOR YOUR HELP!!!!!
    Anyone else with any ideas please post!!!!!
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Matt from independent 4x took measurements for bars off my '00 Trooper. Crunchy from here actually ordered them, but since I'm close to Matt here in NY, he used my truck to measure them. You can check out his webpage at http://indpendent4x.com he is in Moab with the rest of the Isuzu nuts right now, so probably contact him in a week about them. He makes high quality stuff.


    -mike

  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    My noise was in the gear slector, not the hi-low range selector lever. I'd say take the boot off and see if you can spray some silicone down where the lever attaches under the console.

    -mike
  • conman2000conman2000 Member Posts: 158
    Hey,
    Does anyone know what parts are needed to install this in a lower model Trooper? Do you think it is already wired? I know this is a fluff product and there are better aftermarket stuff but it does look cool. Thanks.

    Regards,
    Con
  • conman2000conman2000 Member Posts: 158
    http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/010516/phw062.html

    www.watchyourcar.org


    I saw this on Yahoo. First 300 cars ONLY! Too bad I am not near PA. :(

  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Conman, forget it... I looked into it. I can't figure out if it's wired or not, but the unit itself is $500+ I wanted it too, but until I find a wrecked one, I'm not even gonna think about it. For $200 you can get a garmin GPS unit that fits very nicely on the dash and you'll have everything the overhead unit has and more. I "borrowed temporarily" from comp usa a color garmin unit @ $550, it was cool, but not $550 worth.

    -mike
  • duktrooperduktrooper Member Posts: 78
    I've had a similar interest. has anyone tried St Charles Isuzu or one of the Planet Dealer Members? I like the location of the factory original a lot....but $550, come on.
  • conman2000conman2000 Member Posts: 158
    I noticed in the 98 catalog it was an option for the LS but not in the 2k or 2001 :( I did not think it would be that much so forget it then. I have been on copartfinder.com looking for wrecked troopers as I want to get a matching spare as I want to use my spare mounted bike rake on the trooper. I found some but it seems that the wreck yards sell the car whole.......Make me wonder if they try to fix them with salvage titles.....

    Later,
    Con
  • guillguill Member Posts: 94
    Con, Here's a place online that sells reconditioned Trooper wheels: http://www.800wheels.com/

    I bought one from them awhile back, nice wheel but then a guy on this board had some for sale for $100 including center cap.

    I returned the wheel ($215) and the center cap I bought from St Charles ($75)(the reconditioned wheel doesn't include center cap) and then bought the one for $100, saved $190.


    Last time I looked the guy still had some for sale, look back for the posts in April.

  • gpm5gpm5 Member Posts: 785
    con--see post 737 in aftermarket. 1 wheel left, if that's the type you want.
  • sasquatch_2000sasquatch_2000 Member Posts: 800
    or you could check ebay (unless you are boycotting them)
  • crunchycrunchy Member Posts: 26
    Hi All,

    I'll be sure to thoroughly document the installation of the rocker bars when I get them.

    As it stands now, I've ordered the bolt-on version, and have enlisted Keith 'air amigo' from the Outdoorwire Isuzu board to help with the installation. Mike -- Matt hasn't actually built them yet, right? If he hasn't, then I'm still debating about getting a weld-on version. What do you guys think? My main concern now is, how do I find a local welder who really knows what they're doing? What if I pick the wrong one?

    And one more thing -- a friend and I were having a debate on what 'nerf' means. I think it means any bars/side steps that you can stand on, but would not hold up to off-road use. Is this correct?

    -Sue
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