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Thanks for your help
-mike
http://isuzu-suvs.com in the FAQ section. More specifically http://isuzu-suvs.com/faq/index.html
-mike
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-mike
http://www.safari4x4.com.au/docs/video.htm
Sue
Also check out OME (Old Man Emu), excellent shocks with valving applications specifically for Troopers (well, Jackaroos, actually).
-mike
http://isuzu-suvs.com
Cheers,
Con
P.S. On the Toyota, I like it too but I think they are not comparable; for one Price and two it is bigger(V8 and width) and has the third seat. If it was cheaper (even the 4runner is more expensive than the Trooper) it will be a better value. But if you have $35k+ to spend, I would get it as well. Just my two cents.
Cheers,
Con
During our 3 bad days this last winter, the 2WD was a champ. The winter mode got me up hills easily, and the ABS stopped me in a straight line. While turning, I experience some skidding, but it was always controlled, and kind of fun!
The 2WD offers the high view, high clearance, knobby tires, huge square cargo area, great powerful engine. I hope to get 7 to 10 years of use out of it, but since it is our "road trip car", it's putting on the miles much faster than our Maxima.
Nothing against you off-roaders. I know TOD is sweet, and the 4 WD system on the Troop rocks. The only way to tell the difference from the outside is the TOD sticker on the 1/4 door on the back. With the tinted windows, you can hardly see it. I just wouldn't use 4WD enough to justify the $$.
Andy
Happy trooping.
-mike
PS: I know a ton of guys with 2wd that off-road em especially Rodeos and troopers.
"Nothing against you off-roaders....The only way to tell the difference from the outside is the TOD sticker on the 1/4 door on the back....I just wouldn't use 4WD enough to justify the $$."
My situation is pretty much the same, even if we do (usually) get a few more potentially snowy days here in Maryland. That's why I went for 2WD in my '01 LS. Course, for some strange reason, it has a TOD decal in the rear window.
If anyone is interested, here's a web site that will calculate the percent of error in your speedometer when you change tire/wheel sizes. It says it's for Miatas, but I can't see why it won't hold true for other vehicles. http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
Chris L.
And thanks in advance for your help. I am a bit confused. I am looking at a 1998 Trooper 4x4 with 37k. I see a very good report on Edmunds but Consumer Reports has nothing. Any advice aside from the typical wear and tear.
Thanks
-mike
I'm currently in my second Rodeo - a '98 with lots of problems. I"m going to get out of this car and into a new LS Rodeo or Trooper this month. Does anyone have any advice on which to choose? What about pricing? What should I expect on a LS Rodeo vs. Trooper? I'm thinking of buying vs. leasing this time, any advice? Thanks in advance....it's been a while since i've shopped around.
Thanks
Those will weigh in heavily. Although off the top of my head 15.5 doesn't sound bad
-mike
Not sure about TOD. It does not have a moonroof or roof-rack.
From what I have been reading, the Rancho shocks are the only upgrade I would need.
-mike
Seems like a lot of $$ for a 98 S The 98 S did not have TOD(but the higher models did though). I saw a 98 Limited in MD going for $16,800(dealer) so I assume you could find an S for under $15k. I have seen 2000 S for under $19k too BTW. If you have been reading my post here, I am too looking for a Trooper. I started looking at new but tried used to save some money but realized that the 0% fin. makes the new ones about $5,000 cheaper after you fin. a used one for 7.5%(best I can get for used cars). So for example, if you factor a 2000 S for $19k + 5k interest over 60 months = $24k and a new one can be had for $26k so for $2k more, a new one with 15k miles less than the 2000 makes the new trooper a better value(and the new car smell too). Plus where I live(NY), very few used Troopers so I have decided to go new(Paisan's Dealer is looking for an LS w/MoonRoof BTW). Good Luck.
Cheers,
Con
What does this really mean, though?
What year did it come out?
Is it an option, or standard?
Is it worth buying, or should I not worry about it (ie: I could get an older one without it)?
Is it only for automatics, or standards also?
I remember seeing a Trooper with a "Winter" or "Power" or "Winter Power" button for the tranny. Is this a precursor, or something different?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Available as an option on base model in '98, in '99, '00 and '01 std on all A/T models, A/T std equipment on all but base models in '99-'01
In normal driving conditions if you have TOD engaged, you will have 15%torque to the front axle, and 85% to the rear, this will vary up to 50/50 split based on weight shift, wheel speeds, etc. You also have the option of 2wd mode which makes it 0/100 split. They also can be put into 4wd lo which gives you low range gears + locked 50/50 split of torque.
Winter is on all the A/Ts post '96ish, this can be engaged at a stop when the gear selector is in D position. This will start the car in 3rd gear so that you don't break the wheels loose in mud and snow.
Power mode moves the shift points to near red-line and provides more power for faster acceleration.
I find TOD to be simply one of the best AWD systems out there, it only costs 1mpg in fuel economy, and gives you a rear wheel bias, while still providing power to the front axle, combined with low-range gears for the real nasty stuff. On road the TOD helps the vehicle grip the road in everyday dry, wet, sandy, dirty roads that I experience in the NE.
-mike
In any event, it does sound like a nice system.
I would probably leave it in Power mode all the time. Many aftermarket computer chip companies add this feature.
Thanks again for the info.
-mike
is the trooper not the best selling suv?
am i not driving one right now? (other than the topless allure of jeeps)
It's very frustrating to Trooper owners here in the US to see all the sheep going down the generic SUV path. At least our brethren in Asia and Australia/NZ realize the great potential of the TOD!
I keep wondering why GM didn't use a beefed up version of the TOD unit in the escalade/denali, afterall GM owns 49% of Isuzu they could easily have borrowed the unit and beefed it up!
-mike
PS: Hopefully we'll be welcoming you to the Isuzu family soon.
TOD is not available with the manual transmission. From model year 1998 through current (2001), manual transmission Troopers are available in 2WD or shift-on-the-fly (SOTF) 4WD. The SOTF is handy, but not as handy as TOD because it's not intended for use on dry pavement or other conditions in which traction is good.
TOD is not available on 2WD Troopers.
In 1998 model year, all Troopers were "S" models and 2WD was not available. From there, you could add the Performance Package. The Performance Package included TOD. The Luxury Package required the Performance Package; therefore, all Luxury Package Troopers also had TOD.
In 1999, I'm pretty sure that TOD was standard on all automatic transmission Troopers. 2WD was not available this year; it was available for the first time in MY 2000.
BTW, I am picking up my 2001 Silver 4x4 LS w/moonroof on Thursday.
Later,
Con
TIA
Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Dealer will probably say that cant find it and you know what happens when they start messing around with things!!!!!
THANKS FOR YOUR HELP!!!!!
Anyone else with any ideas please post!!!!!
-mike
-mike
Does anyone know what parts are needed to install this in a lower model Trooper? Do you think it is already wired? I know this is a fluff product and there are better aftermarket stuff but it does look cool. Thanks.
Regards,
Con
www.watchyourcar.org
I saw this on Yahoo. First 300 cars ONLY! Too bad I am not near PA.
-mike
Later,
Con
I bought one from them awhile back, nice wheel but then a guy on this board had some for sale for $100 including center cap.
I returned the wheel ($215) and the center cap I bought from St Charles ($75)(the reconditioned wheel doesn't include center cap) and then bought the one for $100, saved $190.
Last time I looked the guy still had some for sale, look back for the posts in April.
I'll be sure to thoroughly document the installation of the rocker bars when I get them.
As it stands now, I've ordered the bolt-on version, and have enlisted Keith 'air amigo' from the Outdoorwire Isuzu board to help with the installation. Mike -- Matt hasn't actually built them yet, right? If he hasn't, then I'm still debating about getting a weld-on version. What do you guys think? My main concern now is, how do I find a local welder who really knows what they're doing? What if I pick the wrong one?
And one more thing -- a friend and I were having a debate on what 'nerf' means. I think it means any bars/side steps that you can stand on, but would not hold up to off-road use. Is this correct?
-Sue