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and "the Pilot easily pulled a 3500lbs trailer from 0-60 in 19.7 seconds" Why did CR include this in the comparison, it's apples to oranges? Their comparison states "8 passenger SUV". The first paragraph is a rip on Full Size SUV's, I felt I was reading a Greenpeace article. As such, they chose the Pilot as their top pick. Well the Sequoia pulled nearly double the weight in only 4 seconds more. They also rated the Pilot higher in emergency handling, yet the Sequoia had a higher max avoidance maneuver speed. Do I detect a bias with CR?
Catalytic converters have been stinky since their introduction in 1975. They used to be really bad at idle. I have noticed the smell in the car after hard acceleration up a hill, for example. I don't like the smell either but a bigger concern for me is I wonder if exhaust is getting in the passenger compartment? Very strange indeed and a potential safety issue.
I don't like the smell either but a bigger concern for me is I wonder if exhaust is getting in the passenger compartment? Very strange indeed and a potential safety issue.
If it's any comfort to you, the olfactory nerves are extremely sensitive to certain molecules such as sulfur dioxide. You can detect as few as a dozen or so molecules!
Also, any gases in the air outside your vehicle can make it inside. No filtration system can remove individual molecules. Your ventillation intakes are well in front of the exhaust system so that, ordinarily, none of the exhaust can be carried into your vehicle. Occasionally, some will make it in particulalry when you are stopped and a backbreeze transports exhaust gases forward into the vent intake.
The odor that occur is when I ingage the o-drive the odor seem to be coming through the vents I don't see anything it just smells. It's like a burning smell with a slight rubbery smell added. I only go into overdrive on occation going up hills or when passing on the highway to get a little more power. I go in monday for my 7500 mile service and I don't want to say anything because then they will find a problem. Let me know what you think. It doesn't bother me but I want to avoid causing a bigger problem. Thanks.
Overdrive is simply an "extra gear" that engages at certain speeds to help lower RPM's and improve fuel economy. I actually think you have it backwards, as turning overdrive off would be recommended when towing or going up and down hills and the transimission is "hunting" for the right gear. Read the section about this in your owners' manual. It is very helpful. As for the smell- take it to the dealer and have them check it out for you.
"I don't see any health or safety problem"....so they all die in the car from asphyxiation and Edmunds gets sued for $8,000,000. I think I'd have the dealer take a look at it also. There have been others that have complained about the smell. No smell, no problems in mine but it only has 1000 miles so far and we're loving it.
Hello all, I finally put in my order yesterday to buy an '03 Sequoia. We struck a deal at 700 ove rinvoice for an SR-5 with a few extra options (we're getting, keyless entry, steel wheels, JBL premium sound, dual A/C, tinted glass, luggage rack, power seats, fog lights, daytime running lights). Our price is $32,700 + taxes and lic. Any comments of we got a good price? I would really like to hear from current Sequoia owners. Thanks, Arshad
We recently ordered and received a loaded 02 Ltd for $300 over. $700 over for an 03 sounds like a great price. You're reallly going to enjoy this vehicle!
Vehichle: 2002 Sequoia LTD 4X4 Mileage: 27,000 A few months ago, I started noticing that the oil pressure gauge would drop to zero and below during idle. The dealer checked sending unit, gauge and did a manual pressure check - all checked with in normal specifications. Problem, however, continued. Eventually, both sending unit and gauge were replaced and problem went away. About two weeks ago, same problem returned with one change. Now at idle, accerleration, and highway speed, needle will fall below zero and even fall to the rest postion (as if the ignition switch was off) and stay there for long periods of time - occasionally rising to normal values and then droping to the rest position. This message is not meant to reflect negatively on the dealership - they have been very helpful with this problem. My concerns are: 1)If a problem does indeed exist with in the engine and it can not be solved, I may be at risk for long term damage and significant out-of-pocket expense and 2) when it comes to resale or trade-in time, how will I explain an oil pressure gauge reading of zero at highway speed - even though the dealer says that the truck is fine and there is nothing more to do. I know I would not buy it! I would like some sound advice on how I can protect my truck and my investment. Thanks, Willis Scott Mozingo P.S. Yes, the engine has oil!
It is NOT NORMAL for the oil pressure gauge to read that low!! Best scenario is that the engine oil pressure is fine and that you're just receiving a bad reading. Your comment about what to do if the truck can't be fixed should never be spoken. Your Sequoia is under warranty and should be fixed whether it is the sending unit, gauge or any other part of the system! Your attitude towards the dealership should be that this situation is UNACCEPTABLE. I know you feel that the dealership is working in earnest to resolve the problem, but it's time to cover your "[non-permissible content removed]". Keep records of EVERYTHING that has been done to the truck as well as timelines. Keep taking the SUV back to the dealer until the gauge is reading properly 100% of the time and readup on the applicable lemon laws for your state. That being said, it sounds like you have an intermittent problem with a wiring harness.
Just purchased an 03 Limited...any suggestions on preserving the life of the carpet and leather? (Our children will be riding in this car...I think:) TIA
I'd zap the carpet with some sort of "scotchguard" type spray and get some mats (zap them too). Lexol is often recommended for leather cleaning and conditioning. Congrats on the new ride! Steve Host SUVs, Vans and Aftermarket & Accessories Message Boards
we ordered a SR5 with charcoal leather interior....does anyone know how dark the gray is??? I saw a forerunner with leather interior and it wasnt dark at all..........Mike
I recently purchased and installed a Form Fit hood deflector on my Sequoia that is absolutely beautiful! This is a wonderful product! No drilling! Installs in about 30 mins. You remove the six 10mm nuts underneath the hood that hold the front grill in place and this slips in between with some padded tape. Great illustrated instructions and absolutely the most secure deflector I've ever seen. Slick low profile design and I couldn't be happier. You can see photos of it here:
a question, for socal people who bought or look at sequiaa SR5 2WD ( limited is too expensive ) , how are SR5 equipped? mostly with what options? are they bare bone? I heard almost no SR5's are equipped with leather, what about sunroof?, power seats? dvd systeM?
Raddboy is exactly right. It's not only unacceptable for your dealer to quit working on this problem and tell you the truck is ok, it's unconscionable! Based on Toyota's track record, if you did burn up the engine from lack of oil pressure, they wouldn't step up because "you" knew you had a problem with the gauge, and did nothing about it! Get a lawyer if they don't fix this pronto, and make Toyota eat this car under the lemon law.
You folks sure have a lot of problems with your Sequoias....... I like the odor in OD the best though.....
I've read through this board from start to finish and found that the problems Sequoia owners have are minimal. For that reason and the fact that I had only one small problem with a previous Toyota (antenna replacement) I purchased a Sequoia. I don't find myself second guessing my decision and therefore don't wander onto other boards. What would I find if I went to the Navigator or the Expedition board??
Every post, every word. It was the deciding factor to purchase the Sequoia. The Sequoia had some problems in the first couple years, however, even those were few and far between.
lol, you may indeed be certifiable, Norwesterner, but not for buying a Toyota. I have fond memories of my Tercel that wouldn't die for the 17 years I drove it. Congrats on the new ride!
How would you compare these vehicles? I realize that the GX is a new 4runner but.... Are the four wheel drives the same and if not which is better? Thanks!
I just purchased an SR5 a few weeks ago. You probably will not find a bare bones SR5 in So. Cal. I bought ours in Buena Park for $625 over invoice, but I looked at least 10 So. Cal. dealers. I found ours with the alloy package, convienence package, side air bags, fog lights, and power captains chairs. This was exactly the options that I needed. I did see several SR5's with the power moonroofs. Good luck on your search. So far, 1,000 miles and we love this vehicle. So glad I did not buy the GM product!
You would find almost nothing on the Navigator board. My guess is that's because even Navigator owners don't care about their glorified Expedition. Last time I looked, the board hadn't broken 400 posts in three years.
Does ANYBODY know what kind of 4WD system is in the Navigator?
I agree with the other posts here, it's got to be a gage on the dashpanel, or a sender unit. Heck the check engine light ought to be on full blast when that happens. I blew my engine when the oil pump blewup in my old chevy. That sucker ran for about 1 mile before it just seized. If you are the highway pulling 3k RPM, it won't take long before that engine dies without oil...
What was your out the door price with the options (inluding all fees + taxes). I purchased mine in early September with the same options from Buena Park too, 1,750 miles thus far. Just wondering if I did okay with pricing.
Crossed eyes...there were times. I read them over a long period of time. The Sequoia is driven mostly by my wife, I did bring an LX470 home one day and loved the way it drove but it was too big for my wife. I also looked at a Tahoe but the reliability factor made me uncomfortable, 0% interest, less money, it was a temptation. Coming from a JGC the Sequoia was somewhat intimidating to her also but I tossed her the keys to one, had her drive it for a full day and she came back saying "buy one" so I did. We only have about a thousand miles on this one but we couldn't be happier with the ride and quietness of it. I took a used Sequoia and put it through its paces one afternoon with a 4200 pound boat behind it. With the Jeep I would have been exhausted, with the Sequoia it was like I didn't have the boat behind me at all. Black Sequoia, black and tan MB Sports V-drive, I can hardly wait till Spring!
I'm having trouble locating the TSB that addresses premature brake wearing. Neither alldata or nhtsa has it. In fact nhtsa has nothing for '02 models, which is what I own. I think the number was BR004-02 or BR005-02.
Well, I asked my Navigator question on the Navigator board at least two days ago. No answer yet. My conclusion is that either Navigator owners don't know what 4WD system is in their $55,000 dollar truck or they don't care. A sad state of affairs indeed. :^O
so I finally had my second chance at a tire replacement. My new Michelin LTX suddenly developed a case of nail-bitten Friday night. I got my owner's manual out, read about the spare (finally) and together with my neighbor (a couple bottles of Becks did help as well), lowering the spare and replacing the flat tire was real easy. This may be nothing to of you old pros out there, but for someone like me who, in 15 years, have never had to replace a tire, I was quite surprised (pleasantly) how easy it was... So YES, I did learn something from this forum on how to replace your flat tire, and Norwesterner was right... it is an easy chore really... The Seq may be intimidating in bulk, but Toyota's design of the spare is real nice to get to and easy to replace.
On our 2001 SR5 4WD Sequoia, there is a very noticeable, and potentially very dangerous, lag or hesitation when pulling out onto the street and sometimes when driving along. After a frustrating year and a half go-round with the local service department ("The computer doesn't show a problem, so nothing is wrong."), it seems that this problem relates to a flaw in the 2001 VSC chip. From several posts at tundrasolution.com, the chip appears to be overly sensitive, so the VSC kicks in when there is no need for it. Apparently, the 2002 chip doesn't have this problem.
We contacted Toyota's regional office about the problem, and can't get a response.
Has anyone experienced the same problem? It might help if we can show that others (beyond the four posters on tundrasolutions). Thanks
For the most part, the VSC system is a wonderful safety feature but I understand your frustration. Lets say you're trying to leave a gas station entering a busy thoroughfare, you have the wheel cranked to the right and see an opening in traffic. You gun it and while transitioning from the gas station to the street you pass over the little concrete ramp which causes one of your wheels to spin. The VSC senses this(or is it the TRAC system?) and throttles back the engine to regain traction, all the time you've got the "pedal to the metal" saying COME ON!! I've experienced this but only a couple of times and I've learned to simply accelerate smoothly into the lane the HAMMER IT! Works great! However, this is with a properly working VSC. From what I've read it sounds like your's is WAY too sensitive. Hopefully, they will swap the ECU for you and you'll be on your way. Hell, the least they could do is grab one off an '02 on the lot and let you try it!
My origional Dunlap tires have 35K and I am getting ready to replace them. I am leaning to the Michelin Cross Terrain tires. I know someone on this forum changed to them recently, can you give me some feedback on what you think of them!!
I dealt with the internet sales manager, Raj Shah, at Buena Park Toyota. There was no haggling involved. I communicated via e-mail with several dealers, and he was the best by far. His price was invoice +$625 for any Sequoia on the lot. The deal took all of 15 minutes. He showed me the original factory invoice that matched the VIN of the vehicle I selected. The numbers matched the Edmunds figures exactly. In addition to the $625 dealer profit, you need to add the $300 advertising fee to the edmunds number. Overall, this dealer was great, and I would highly recommend them. I had thought about adding aftermarket leather to our SR5, and Raj was willing to give me dealer cost of $1,200 for this option.
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Well the Sequoia pulled nearly double the weight in only 4 seconds more. They also rated the Pilot higher in emergency handling, yet the Sequoia had a higher max avoidance maneuver speed. Do I detect a bias with CR?
If it's any comfort to you, the olfactory nerves are extremely sensitive to certain molecules such as sulfur dioxide. You can detect as few as a dozen or so molecules!
Also, any gases in the air outside your vehicle can make it inside. No filtration system can remove individual molecules. Your ventillation intakes are well in front of the exhaust system so that, ordinarily, none of the exhaust can be carried into your vehicle. Occasionally, some will make it in particulalry when you are stopped and a backbreeze transports exhaust gases forward into the vent intake.
I don't see a health or safety hazard.
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As for the smell- take it to the dealer and have them check it out for you.
Winning is another story :-)
Did we mention that the Sequoia has a high residual value?
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These days the going rate is in the BILLIONS!
BTW - that reminds me, I should have put in the usual disclaimers along with a recommendation to keep an early warning parrot on board! :-)
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I finally put in my order yesterday to buy an '03 Sequoia. We struck a deal at 700 ove rinvoice for an SR-5 with a few extra options (we're getting, keyless entry, steel wheels, JBL premium sound, dual A/C, tinted glass, luggage rack, power seats, fog lights, daytime running lights). Our price is $32,700 + taxes and lic. Any comments of we got a good price? I would really like to hear from current Sequoia owners.
Thanks,
Arshad
Mileage: 27,000
A few months ago, I started noticing that the oil pressure gauge would drop to zero and below during idle. The dealer checked sending unit, gauge and did a manual pressure check - all checked with in normal specifications. Problem, however, continued. Eventually, both sending unit and gauge were replaced and problem went away. About two weeks ago, same problem returned with one change. Now at idle, accerleration, and highway speed, needle will fall below zero and even fall to the rest postion (as if the ignition switch was off) and stay there for long periods of time - occasionally rising to normal values and then droping to the rest position. This message is not meant to reflect negatively on the dealership - they have been very helpful with this problem. My concerns are: 1)If a problem does indeed exist with in the engine and it can not be solved, I may be at risk for long term damage and significant out-of-pocket expense and 2) when it comes to resale or trade-in time, how will I explain an oil pressure gauge reading of zero at highway speed - even though the dealer says that the truck is fine and there is nothing more to do. I know I would not buy it! I would like some sound advice on how I can protect my truck and my investment.
Thanks,
Willis Scott Mozingo
P.S. Yes, the engine has oil!
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http://www.tundrasolutions.com/photopost/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=5564&thumb=1
Price was $71 plus shipping from Carson Toyota in CA.
You folks sure have a lot of problems with your Sequoias....... I like the odor in OD the best though.....
I, for one, am impressed! Remind Steve to send you "the certificate!" :-)
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Does ANYBODY know what kind of 4WD system is in the Navigator?
Does ANYBODY know what kind of 4WD system is in the Navigator?
Could it be because people are asking their Navigator questions HERE instead of there? ;-)
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I blew my engine when the oil pump blewup in my old chevy. That sucker ran for about 1 mile before it just seized. If you are the highway pulling 3k RPM, it won't take long before that engine dies without oil...
Keep on the dealer..
did you happen to compare your Sequoia with anything else prior to purchase, say, Land Cruiser or Lexus LX470??
Any thoughts?
You may very well be correct about the owners!
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We contacted Toyota's regional office about the problem, and can't get a response.
Has anyone experienced the same problem? It might help if we can show that others (beyond the four posters on tundrasolutions). Thanks