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Oh, you need space for the additions to the family. I don't see how a Durango offers more space than a Sequoia. When it comes to space, no one puts the Durango and the Sequoia in the same sentence when comparing these trucks.
But as someone said already: you bought what fits you and your family best. Good luck and best wishes.
Quite frankly, putting all disagreement on cars aside, I think that the comment by slackers that, “Me thinks that was 4 days too much. Give me a break. I wouldn't expect a day in the shop for those initial miles on the Sequoia or any "decent" vehicle fot that matter, let alone 4 days in for 92K on "one" vehicle” is a bit optimistic.
I am 46 years old and have probably owned in excess of 20 vehicles in the past 20 years. I cannot imagine ANY car going 92K miles and NEVER being in the shop one day. Maybe I am just unlucky.
Let’s see what you guys think..... I’ll cast the first vote: (c)
I put 275k miles on a 1968 Ford country squire with an engine swap at 130k and otherwise the only trouble I remember is having to replace the mechanical fuel pump once or twice.
My 01 AWD RX300 has never been in the shop since the day I bought it. While I will likely not keep it that long, were I to do so I would fully expect that to remain the case until at least 120k.
Oil and filter changes, DIY, is all the service it will get becuase in my opinion service shop's gofers (alias McD flippers) doing routine maintainance cause more problems that they prevent.
As for the post by wwest, I think my point is made - the number of repair attempts is downplayed by him with comments like "other than a few times" and "once or twice." Well, that's saying "Besides that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play"? The car was either in the shop or it was not. Either way, I did not suggest, and I do not think, that Chrysler cars are the most reliable on the road. Rather, I am simply saying that my personal experience with repair frequency is hardly one that concerns me, and hardly one that I think the average person would be concerned with.
I've had two alignments, one brake pad replacement that I didn't do, a hatch strut replaced, a wiper stalk replaced and a power window motor replaced on my minivan to date. All that stuff was done under warranty. At least 6 special trips to the dealer since December, '98 over 90,000 miles.
Doesn't seem like a lot to me, but I owned cars in the 70's too.
Steve, Host
And to be altogether fair I purchased a 2000 AWD T&C in the fall of 99 and put 30k miles on it before giving it to my daughter last fall. Until about a month ago it had never seen the inside of a service shop.
And the shop time then was the result of having disparate tire sizes F/R.
Let us move on. This is afterall, a Sequoia board and not Chrysler/Dodge.
The details of all Toyotas are well thought out. Look at every door where the exterior skin wraps around to the inside. Toyota lays a bead of silicon around the entire door perimeter to cover the seal then paints it to prevent rust. Not GM, which is really the only competition.
Sequoias are not Landcruiser quality.....but mechanically close and they ride marginally better with the longer wheel base.
I don't care if others feel differntly about the domestics, I know the facts. Most people that buy and drive most cars really don't know the differnce between a good care and a bad car in terms of quality issues. I do and that is all that matters to me .......and I believe most here that buy Toyota products.
Ask yourself this. " Would you buy a truck from a company that spent profits to produce and Aztek?"
My point regarding the Aztek did not only imply poor aesthetics but rather fit, finish, comfort and quality. (Not to mention a $3000 bill to replace the front windshield if it breaks, which I know for a fact) Silly stuff!
The SC 430 may not be to your liking and maybe not even mine. However aside from LOOKS I have been in one and they ride very nicely. Aztek LIKE JUNK and dangerous. You cannot see clearly out of the back window!!!!!!! I rented in Denver for a few days ended up with a bruise in my right thigh from seat belt buckle driving into my leg.
You will NEVER EVER not even with Johnny Cochran as you spokes person win the debate between Toyota and GM regarding overall quality. It quite simply is not up for debate!!!!
All stats are "problems per 100 vehicles"
New vehicles, Average 19 per 100: Toyota 11 (rated 3rd) Chevy 19 (rated 10th), GMC 24 (13th)
Three-year-old vehicles, Average 54 per 100:
Toyota 24 (3rd place), Chevy 59 (16th), GMC 63 (19th)
Five-year-old vehicles, average 79 per 100:
Toyota 35 (4th), Chevy 92 (19th), GMC 95 (20th).
Chevy and GMC fell below average in all three model years. Cadillac did even worse, with 25 & 91 for one and three-year old models, and still below average for five-year-old models at 82 problems per 100.
So........enuf said ?
Notice the mud on the running boards above, that's because this thing was going through mud that high. Here's a few more:
The Sequoia can go through just about anything with the BFG KO all-terrains I just put on it!
In the three year olds vehicles category it's Infinity 1st,Lexus 2nd,Toyota 3rd
In the Five year old category: Infinity 1st,Lexus 2nd, Acura 3rd, Toyota 4th.
Interesting to note: Chrysler rates a 17 in new vehicle category then drops to 60 in the Three year old vehicle category, then drops to 88 in the five year old category only to win out over Chryslers Jeep at 99. That might explain why Car and Driver and MT rate Chryslers well in the initial overall quality category when most all vehicles score fairly well early on. So,from a reliability standpoint if you trade frequently its fine to buy into the domestics. If you keep your vehicles longer, better to stay with the Japanese imports. These studies just reinforce what most of us already knew.
Any comments from current Sequoia owners about the comfort level in the 3rd row...
This past weekend, I put my elderly parents back there and they were comfortable (3-yr old twins in car seats in the middle row). I doubt they would have liked getting in and out 50 times, but they enjoyed the ride.
qualified to comment on Toyota quality. I now have
a 2002 Sequoia with 16,000 miles (26,000 km) on the
odometer as well as a 1996 4-Runner with 70,000 miles (111,000 km). I have replaced the following
(non-routine maintence items on each vehicle)
4-Runner: Front brake pads at 102,000km
Rear coil springs (by TSB)
Head Gasket (by TSB)
All 4 shocks (with Bilsteins)
Rear door plastic sill plates
Sequoia: Stereo system (rear speaker buzz)
Front brake pads and rotors (warped)
Antenna and motor (grinding)
Plastic door for rear compartment
I also had the vehicle in the service department on 4 separate occasions during the first year because it would not start in weather
colder than about 5 degrees C (40 degrees F). I love my Sequoia but
the quality is certainly poorer than that of my 4-Runner
We have a 2003 SR5 that has both the rear controls and a rear A/C unit by the third row seats. All of the Sequoias we looked at had these features. We like the ability to control all temp settings from the front or let the 2nd row adjust their own. (Especially when traveling with another couple the folks in front don't have to sweat bullets so the wives are warm enough and vice versa)
Power retractable mirrors
Heated seats (got ours after market)
1-tone paint (unless you get silver)
Rear spoiler?
Anything else?
The problem, however is that you won't find any SR5s with every available option. If they built them that way, they wouldn't sell very many Limited models. If you want to order an SR5, there is a hard-limit to the number of options you can choose. I don't know what that number is, but it's like 80% of the total or something like that. On top of that, it can take a very long time to receive your order.
By the way...Carmax has the Sequoia under invoice, are there incentives or rebates or are there other "tack on" items when I get there. Anyone gotten a car from Carmax? Thanks
Next year it gets the 4.7 Liter with 270 HP!!!!!!! It is not a monster but now it can compete with others on specs. Please correct me if wrong but I think he said it was a VVtech?
1. When taking off (from stop), say at a traffic light, or even slowing down to come to a stop, I feel a slight "kick" coming from the trasnmission. It is similar to getting bumped in the back by another car. Sometimes it does it a second after I take my foot off the break and am about to accelerate.
I've taken it to the dealer a few times, but they can't duplicate it or they say its normal for a 4WD.
Has anyone else experinced this?
2. The sunroof squeaks sporatically. It is the passenger side internal articulating assembly which attaches the glass to the body. It seems to lessen in warmer weather, so it apparently has to do with expansion/contrarction.
Of course, the dealer can not fix this either.
Any thoughts on any of these is certainly appreciated.
As for the sunroof squeak they can't fix, that's unacceptable, you've been too nice about it. Your vehicle is at 14k miles, they must fix this. I recommend taking it to another dealer.