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Drew
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The 2002 colors that you mentioned (Tanzanite blue, jasper blue, titanite red, andradite green...) are merely european names for the very same colors we have here in the US. If you look at the color codes, they correspond to our own capri blue, orion blue, bordeaux red, and everest green (at least I think so). Hope that helps.
My Brother n law who sells Lincoln's advised me this was "bunk" and the salesman are having to practically "give" the 01 model away in anticipation of 02 delivery, and are only worried about their own pockets. The salesman did admit they are making great deals on the 01, and offered $40,000 out the door for a unit with M1(lux package),M7(3rd seat),6 CD changer, and moonroof. In his next breath he stated "but you don't want this thing...trust me".
Have you heard anyone say their kids are suffering in the 3rd seat during summmer months? (ps: I live in Florida)
Does anyone think MB or some after market guru will be able to sell the side view mirrors for those who own the earlier models but prefer the appearance of the new side view mirrors which are similiar to those of the C class.
Also, Drew - what do you think the price increase for the 02 will be? I didn't see the MSRP for the 02 posted anywhere. Thanks!
No doubt the 2002 rear vents will help a lot. There is a lack of 2001 models w/ the 3rd row option though. Did you see one on the lot? If so, just ask for a test drive on a really hot day.
ML has good underseat airflow which gets it in back.
I have small kids and generally use the jumps seats as needed. If you plan on consistantly carrying 6-7 people, the ml is not sequioa or suburban in length.
Please understand, I love the ML, I am just talking about usable space for some families.
Tires: Got the Dunlaps put on yesterday. New tires are always great! Generals lasted 25k. No complaints. Got a great deal on the dunlaps, $322 for all four!
I detailed interior using the duragloss line, great results on leather with a nice smell. I also used a high grade wood polish on the wood and it really comes back to life!
For the members who have just purchased the 01ML congrats. and if you can please share how much you paid for and with what options.
Currently I have '95C280 no problems at all. great car!
I ordered my 2002 ML-320 from a dealer in Bakersville, CA and have a 2nd week in Sept delivery. I'm doing the factory delivery thing so it really didn't matter which dealer I used. Ron gave me a great deal so you might want to call him and see what he can do for you. His name is Ron Hoff and he can be reached at 800-848-3494 or ronhoff@sangera.com
Gereld
You may want to refer to my previous message (with pictures) via the following link:
drew_ Jun 19, 2001 5:55pm
Check out these links too:
http://www.escribe.com/automotive/european/mbmc/m14951.html
http://www.dragnet.com.au/~groberts/mlpagerec.html
http://4x4abc.com/ML320/ml320_trips.html
Drew
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By the way, I have a charcoal interior with third seats as well and have never had passengers (small children) complain that it was too warm despite high ambient temperatures. By all means get the third row of seats if you occasionally need to transport that many people.
Folks on the M-class list have routinely reported 45-50K mileage before replacement, even with the Generals.
Hey guys, My fuel pump and fuel sender replaced last weekend, Because I had an incident while I'm driving from NOrthern Cali. to San Diego my fuel hose came off from the pump and my ML just died on highway.. due to no fuel going in to the engine (it was scary when your warning lights came on and your engine was no response) I thanks GOD that I managed to pull my ML to the safe side. To make my story short. The road side Assistace response are pretty quick but the problem was there is no available flat bed at that time so we had to wait for 3 1/2 hour( it happened on Sunday) so no service dept open on any dealership, We spent a night at the hotel. Monday, at the dealership they found out that my fuel hose were worn out. This incident happened to me twice, the same problem. I want to ask anyones opinion. Is it considered a safety issue? What happened if the car behind me hit me when my car died while driving 70mph?
I just ordered the 2002 ML320 from the new MB in Rochester Hills. I think they are owned by the same owner. They took my deposit about 3 weeks ago so you should be able to order them in Michigan. Try Rochester to order if Novi won't take your deposit yet. Good luck.
Biker5, where you reimbursed for your hotel stay then since isn't that part of the MB program?
That weekend was really a terrible one for me. Here is another on i always brought a spare key with me everytime I do long driving but when I got home I couldn't find my spare remote key none in my jacket or pants, under the seat, luggage, bag I could not find it for 2 days. So Wednesday I order one thru dealer it cost me $99.00 plus tax with out activation. Last night I clean and vaccuum the car and guess what my spare was in the driver side back pocket. I asked myself how it got there, so this morning I called the dealer if I still can catch it to cancel....the key came in last night. Now I have 4 keys including the mechanical one.(Arghhhhhh @#$$&&&%$#*&@#)SORRY FOLKs for the OT story I just one to release my frustration...Have a nice weekend to all of you guys.
When the fuel hose fell off, your car didn't suddenly slow down a lot right? The person behind you probably thought you were just an old lady. It's pretty unlikely that you would get hit though it does increase your chance so it is a safety issue.
Did you bring it back to the same dealer who "fixed" it the first time? I'd think twice before doing that. Yours is the first case I've heard of it happening multiple times (it sometimes happens after they replace the fuel sensor and forget to hook up the line).
Thanks citc
But you can look at it this way, you can put a spare at work, at the gym, etc.
So I went into the dealership, expressed "my dismay" at their performance, or lack thereof, and I told them I wanted an SLK loaner instead of an ML (I now always get a MB loaner after their last major screwup). The Service Advisor said they didn't have SLK's in the loaner fleet but would discuss it with the Sales Manager. A short time later, the Dealer Manager approved a brand new SLK320; silver, charcoal leather, I love it. What a toy! I don't care when they finish my ML now.
I found my response rate with the dealership staff vastly improved after I wrote a two page letter to MBUSA's Customer Service Dept in Montvale, NJ blasting MB and this dealer and faxed it to the Dealer Manager. They may not service it any quicker but my loaners have improved and they are very careful with what they do.
JimB
And, how do you like the MB GPS?
Thanks in advance.
Mike
Finally got to drive a pair of M classes. It's a short course, but still pretty fun. Thought I'd share my impressions (from a poor man who couldn't afford to own one).
First the bad. It felt heavy. Big and heavy. Tall, too. Granted, I'm used to cars, and drove a Miata to the event, but it almost felt silly wrestling this truck through the slalom with all the lean and the relatively slow steering. I guess you have to compare it to other SUVs, but it was the C class' competitors that were also available, no SUVs. The transmission also seemed a bit slow to downshift when I floored it.
That engine is a gem, though. And I mean the 3.2l V6. Sweet "zzzzing" in the mid range, plenty of umpf even if the 0-60 numbers aren't that great. I liked the ML320's ride, and the sitting-on-a-throne view afforded to the driver. Materials seemed really nice, and room was abundant.
I then tried the ML430, but honestly, it still felt tall and heavy, so the stiff ride didn't seem worth it for the improvement in handling. I surprised myself as I always crave power and sporty handling, it's just that it didn't encourage you to drive fast enough to take advantage of it. So even though the 430 had the Sport package, I actually preferred the ML320.
Overall a nice vehicle that seems to have a better interior and quality feel than I had remembered (incremental improvements?), but trucks just aren't for me. Of course if the wife wanted one I guess I wouldn't overrule her choice.
-juice
PS My favorite was the SLK320 6 speed, the only manual tranny at the event. I was very impressed.
Gas milage also, but since 6cyl has to work harder its not big difference. We opted for 6cyl as its primarily wifes car and she liked it enough. we opted not for gps for its cost, but I think its a nice toy. Can only recall 3 times in 18 months where it was needed. But thats just my opinion. Larger tires give it a different ride, more sporty. In the Suv world, its a great riding vehicle which ever you choose. The 320 lacks for nothing, the 8cyl just gives it more of whats good about the vehicle. I think brakes are heavier duty in 8cyl. Actually what happended in our household, I recently got the E-430. If I spent more on the ML, I would not have been able to do so. So I got the big motor in my car, and eveyone happy!
Thanks
I suppose it has good entertainment value for the passenger, however, in my case that would be my wife who has trouble with paper maps, never mind a machine that is complicated to use. Bottom line is MB has integrated a GPS into a car they figure will be operated by less than suffisticated operators. If you can afford the time to figure out how to get your destination into the unit - it will take you there, and do it well - if the destination is in there. Otherwise, it does work well for finding alternate routes when in a jam, construction, accident backup, etc. It's not a total waste of money, but a good aftermarket one will perform as well for less.
Corine in California