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  • camelardcamelard Posts: 171
    You must be psychic. When I went out to my Cat this morning the poor thing was buried under 30 cm (12") of blowing snow and there wasn't enough clearance to get the doors open, never mind get out of the driveway. The plough finally showed up around 10:00 am by which time I decided this would be a perfect crowd free day for Christmas shopping.

    Once I did get going the snow tires definitely made a difference with stopping and starting even, believe it or not, on ice. These new tire compounds that are used in snow tires really seem to grab on ice. But you are right nothing can replace a bit of well placed caution. Speaking of which, what is it about people with white cars that makes them insist on driving in white out conditions with no lights on.
  • badulahbadulah Posts: 961
    My personal favorite are people who drive mobile igloos. You know the type. They come out of the house and don't bother removing the snow from their car. They put the wipers on and take off. No lights on, all the windows covered up (with the exception of the two windshield wiper outlines on the front), snow flying all over the place, while talking on the cell phone.
  • malibumalibu Posts: 155
    That sounds like the women I see driving 75-80 mph, putting their make-up on and talking on the cell phones...and no they don't have three hands! They think they are steering with their knees. One pot hole and their in your lane or off the shoulder. Ya gotta love em!
  • camelardcamelard Posts: 171
    And isn't it especially nice after damp sticky snow that comes flying off their roof in one solid chunk while they are cruising down the freeway just ahead of you.

    Malibu's note reminds me of the time I was in the lane next to this dizzy women in a mini van who was alternating between yakking into the cell phone and turning to scream at her kids in the back. After the second time she almost side swiped me a honked loud and long. This scared the bejeesus out of her and she dropped the phone. Did this deter her in anyway. Nope. She just kept on driving while feeling around on the floor for the phone with one hand and shaking her fist at me with other.
  • malibumalibu Posts: 155
    It's really amazing to me how many clueless drivers there are out there. I especially notice it now that I don't drive a clunker anymore. If only everyone drove and thought the way we cougar owners do!
  • An idiot bumped me in a Burger King drive-thru lane today! Didn't so much as mouth "sorry" about it. Thank goodness there was no damage. But geez-0-man, what a moron!

    I mean, it's a line. I've been ahead of her all the way around the building, and it's not like the line was moving at the time. Guess she just figured she could really zoom on through if she just got another 12" ahead to pay her 3 bucks and change into that window, ya know. Of course, I was only 8" ahead. Idiot. IDIOT.
  • You stated the below stats in another forum:

    Cougar V6 - Automatic Trans:
    0-60mph = 7.8 Seconds
    60-0mph Braking Distance = 125 Feet
    2.5L V6
    170hp @ 6250rpm
    165 lbs of Torque @ 4250rpm
    Weight = 2892 Pounds

    "The Cougar V6 with a 5 speed manual runs about 7.1 seconds in the 0-60mph sprint, and this option truly makes the car a Sports Coupe."

    Do you remember where you found this data? You had said that it was according to Edmunds; I poured through edmunds and couldn't find these stats anywhere.

    7.8 seconds 0-60 would be an excellant time for an ATX Cougar. Most reviews I read put the manual transmission around 7.8. Supposedly Motortrend squeezed out a 7.5 in a Sep. 98 review. Most reviews of the auto put the 0-60 in the 9 or 10 range.

    So far, the only Cougar I've testdriven was an auto V6. I was a little dissapointed, but I look forward to trying out a manual. (I also look forward to learning how to drive manual first...)

  • 1) I love pickles

    2) I would not service my Cougar at a Mazda dealership

    3) It's cold here in Southern Cal - about 60 degrees. Brrrrrrr I don't regret moving from the midwest especially when you get 12 inches of snow.
  • dgeminidgemini Posts: 161

    Christmas pickles?


    I will not be putting my throttle hang mod back on my Cougar. I don't know if it caused the damage to my throttle body, but I don't want to take any chances.


    The throttle body didn't actually crack, just some of the linkage that connects to hit. I guess they couldn't replace only the linkage and just replaced the whole thing.


    I have only been to to (actually through) the Central Coast once. I rode through while returning from training at Fort Ord. All I could think of while driving through was Bugs Bunny saying in one of his cartoons, "Pismo beach with all the clams we can eat."
  • Hey all!

    Burnsy: I think all those suggestions might leave your Cat cleaner and less stinky than than it is right now, although I have pictures in my head of you driving around with a shop-vac in the trunk, hastily wired into the electrical with the nozzle constantly sucking the remaining liquid and baking soda from the floorboards of your Cougar. It's not such a bad thing, and is recoverable. Let us know what you end up doing, or combination of things so that if we ever have a similar situation, we'll have a heads-up on what works. Thanks!

    Advice for everyone:

    I found out this morning that no matter how hard you try, the Cougar (especially with CRAPROCK tires) cannot beat an S2000. Just can't do it! LOL! This yahoo came up behind me at a light, three lanes wide. I was in the middle lane, someone had just pulled up on the left and the right was *almost* clear. I see three lanes worth of headlights approaching from the rear, but one set hastily jerks through the others and ends up on my right side on the line. Guess who? It was a silver S2000 and the guy must've been in a hurry. I thought I'd give him a story to tell his coworkers when he got in, and when the light turned green -- well, let's just say that he pulled ahead of me and didn't have to stop until a bonehead in (get this) a white car with no lights on pulled out from a side street and wasn't going quite as fast as we were. :^)

    Anyhoo, I'm quite dissappointed with the tires. The only response I got out of them was a squeal, and that's with traction control AND the limited slip differential! I'm sooooooooo done with these damn things. Have I mentioned that I'm putting air in them every single week now, just to keep them stuck to the road?

    I should check the documentation that came with my car to see what, exactly, the warranty is on the stupidROCKS, although I think they'll have a hard time replacing them under any kind of warranty. It's amazing how the next generation of a tire can be so much worse compared to the first ... I used to have the first gen on a previous vehicle and they were AWESOME!

    Note to Firestone:

    It's not FMC products, it's your crappy tires!
  • badulahbadulah Posts: 961
    malibu & camelard:
    Bad drivers, gotta love 'em!!

    I would have been really pissed!!! Something like that happened to me while in line for a drive up ATM back in 1992. Although my car wasn't anything to look at, I still went bezerk on the guy.

    To be very honest with you, I don't remember off hand where I found those stats, but I will go back through all my Cougar info and dig it out. Also, when did I post that? Being able to go from 0-60mph rather quickly does NOT make any car a true sports coupe. I have gained a lot of knowledge over the years here in Edmunds about the different classifications of vehicles. There are a lot more things that attribute to the sport coupe classification of the Cougar.

    So why wouldn't you service your Cat at a Mazda dealership? Is it because they are worse than FMC/LM dealerships, or because they won't service it at all?
  • gustafscgustafsc Posts: 361
    They're everywhere!! I see them driving around like normal drivers until they do dumb things. They don't even know that they're dumb!!!

    Saw two good examples this AM. Under our current conditions, a cleared road is not necessarily a dry road. Therefore, traction is not normal.

    However, two people either tried to make a driveway too late, or, in the other case, had to panic stop before goosing another car, and wound up on the 2-3' berm on the roadside. Front wheels up in the air, balanced on the bumper. And, as they were both FWD, no chance of pulling off without a wrecker.

    MWS: Good to hear from you again. Let us know how well you can handle the spring rains & mudslides.

    Is it true that you use the earthquakes to measure the spring and shock rates for our new cars? ;-)

    Skip G
  • badulahbadulah Posts: 961
    We have an official time and date for our first chat session here in Edmunds. We will be meeting on Tuesday January 9th, 2001 from 7:00pm - 8:00pm eastern standard time. We are currently trying to schedule guest speakers for several of the sessions, but for the fist session we thought it would be best for us to meet without one. The event will be hosted by yours truly and I hope to see all of you there!!

    PS - If you have any suggestions for a guest speaker, please let us know.
  • malibumalibu Posts: 155
    I Love Bugs Bunny! Unfortunatly the clams are becoming scarce around here. If you ever get back this way you should stop and have a bowl of our famous Clam Chowder.

    Got to use all that cargo space last night, I went xmas shopping at Circuit City, bought 2 stereo systems for the kids, the guy shook his head and said there was no way it would fit in that little car, I just smiled and said watch...evertything fit just fine with a little room to spare...which of course I had to fill up with stocking stuffers! The kid just stood there and smiled, he said that he has loaded alot of stuff in cars, but never that much in such a little car. Just another reason to Love our Kittys!
  • Hi, that posting that I quoted you from was from May, in the CSG Dealership experiences forum. It was in reply to an Alero vs Cougar posting.

    I think 0-60 is one stat that is a good overall reflection of a car's straight line performance (speed), which is one of the main factors in judging a sport coupe. The other big one is handling, which is very difficult to "measure" since it's so subjective.

    Most car magazines seem a little confused about what genre the Cougar falls into. It seems to be labeled as too performance-watered-down in the sport coupe class against Integras, Preludes, Celicas etc. And yet it seems to be labeled as too sporty in the family coupe class against Accords, Aleros, Solaras etc.

    Actually that's one thing I do like about it. I think this "hybridization" makes the Cougar pretty unique functionally. It's faster and more stylish than your average family coupe, yet its backseats are bigger than most sport coupes.

    (My formula for calculating which car I should buy is VERY complicated and pretty subjective... though the Cougar does quite well in it.)
  • What happened to the Town Hall format? It suddenly changed and the group numbers are gone and I had to clear all the messages again. Is there some improvement I'm missing?
  • I know things sometimes need updating, but what a shock!

    How about a little warning next time, Edmunds? When cars get an update, there's always a lot of build-up for the new look before it shows up.

    Oh, I found a ding from where the BK-Idiot bumped me. It's below the rear license plate, a little circle about the size of a medium-largish screw head. Damn!
  • fredlyfredly Posts: 201
    ... this is wierd.. not sure if I like it....
  • The new format is difficult to use and has more info about subaru's and dakota's than cougars. Might be time to go back to NECO.
  • fish8fish8 Posts: 2,282
    Why change a good thing? This new format is not as clean cut as the old. Looks very "jumbled". If that makes sense.
  • Why are all the topics jumbled together?

    Can't we get all the Cougar topics organized in a group.....preferably at the top of the list!?!

    And the display in these message boxes while typing is mighty itty-bitty. It's hard to catch typos.
  • You can order the list alphabetically.. Click on the Preferences link near the top of the page. You can change the ordering in there.

    Since C (for Cougar) comes before many letters, all the cougar groups will be right near the top.

  • Thanks, Pritesh!

    I just updated my ISP software at the same time this Edmunds change came about, and I'm overloaded with trying to get used to all the new stuff everywhere I turn.

    It's a plot, I tell ya, a PLOT!!!
  • CoolChick:
    no probs..

    I know what you mean. Change is good, but not when it all happens at once! ;-)

  • I would never have guessed there was a way to group the Cougar groups. At least now they're not strewn all over Creation.
  • camelardcamelard Posts: 171
    Now I have the board organised properly but there are a couple of posts from Friday and Saturday that didn't get carried over from the old board (the down side of bookmarks I guess).


    Is it possible to move those messages over to the new board.
  • badulahbadulah Posts: 961
    Why did Edmunds change their format? This is much harder to follow and harder on your eyes. And where is the "Place marks" link?! Why fix it if it isn't broken?
  • camelardcamelard Posts: 171
    I do like the new spelling feature. Let's me plug in all those pesky Canadian spellings.
  • fish8fish8 Posts: 2,282
    Why aren't the topics highlighted after you have gone in and looked. I like to see what topics I have already been too. Is this an enhancment?
  • Hi all,

    I remember someone saying something about the Cougar being in the "touring class" of cars. (was it stageleft?) I think the posting vanished in the new board transition. Anyway, what is the touring class (whether in racing terms or road terms or whatever) and what are some examples of other cars in the touring class?

    Ugh, I kinda don't like the new look of the board. Also, I can't figure out how to get more than 20 posts to show up at once. Anyone know how to do this? It's really a big pain when trying to read old threads now. I used to select "show all messages," then save the entire page to my harddrive to read it offline. No can do now.

    Why does it seem like car websites are always removing good functionality? Yahoo's auto site used to be the only one where you could do side by side comparisons of as many cars as you want. Not anymore. Now you can only do four, just like every other car site out there.

    Ok, now I'm blindly ranting. I'll stop now. Have a nice day.
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