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  • lucien2lucien2 Member Posts: 2,984
    18mm bar is standard on the '99OB

    sounds cool, A.J. Wish I could make gettysburg and have alook-see.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    That's cool, because you can look-see now! My web page is up right here.

    I put up about a dozen new pages, check it out!

    I installed the fender flares, and personally I love them. The driver side rear door had a ding and it covered it, plus it serves to prevent future door dings on the rear doors. My wheels' offset was such that the rims stuck out a bit, so it's purposeful too.

    Check out the air filter swap, and the two cold air intake pages, those are my favorite. Much thanks go to Ramon and Colin for the tips and the encouragement.

    I redid the horn I had gotten, and guess why? Remember I didn't notice much change? There was NO change, there are two horns and I swapped the wrong one! DOH!

    The one behind the grille must be for the alarm, even though I don't have it! The actual horn is behind the passenger side head light.

    Now it does sound noticeably deeper, thankfully. Before I did not recommend it, but now I do, just make sure you don't goof like I did.

    Thanks to Ken, I also swapped to Hella xenons, and you can see the difference in my photo. I took a picture against a wall, and yes, it's both brighter and slightly whiter.

    I also did the full 30k service and took photos, but if you're reading this topic you probably already know how to do all that anyway, so I'll save that discussion for the Maintenance topic.

    Commentary?

    -juice

    PS The whine persists. I'll reset the ECU, then try the battery. Will the keyless still work? I don't have the alarm. I'll also try to hear where it's coming from.
  • ramonramon Member Posts: 825
    Whoa! You did that much over the weekend? Wow!
    Hey, I always wonder the realiabiltiy of those jacks you use. I have one at home and I dare not crawl underneath the car with it. Do you think those stuff works?
    NE ways congrats on taking out that hideous snorkus! It's so...evil looking eh?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Evil indeed. It's a goner.

    I took Monday off, so it was about two days' worth of work (Sat and Mon). Plus half day putting it up on the web on Tuesday!

    The floor jack is great. I've had it for a decade and it's been perfectly reliable. I also got ramps, though, to do the hitch, and now for oil. Ramps are easier and perhaps safer but the jack is more versatile.

    What do you think is causing the high-pitched whining noise?

    -juice
  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    I've been thinking about it juice and I have no idea based on what you said --constant noise, no change in pitch or volume with RPM or vehicle speed.

    Have you tried to localize the problem by leaving the engine running while parked in your driveway and moving around the car? (I'd start under the hood.)

    -Colin
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    That's exactly what I plan to do, it's just this stupid thing called "work" interupted me! ;)

    I'll try the fuse reset, and the battery, and try to trace the noise.

    -juice
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    juice,

    Great work! Wow, a DIY 30K maintenance and a dozen pages to document it. You da man!

    I liked your cold-air intake pages. I'm going to try that very soon myself. That "evil-looking snorkus" comment cracked me up. Sure does look evil -- kind of like a big tumor you pulled out from the Forester.

    Actually, the horn for the alarm (at least in my vehicle) is located just next to the air filter box. If you go to my webpage and check out the Amsoil air filter, it's just above the "B" on the first picture. Wonder what that other horn-thing does...

    Glad you liked the Xenons. I think it's a great mod. Have you tried driving at night yet?

    I'd love to see how your vehicle looks from the side with the fender flares. Any photos like that?

    Finally, can you describe the whining noise a little more? Is it coming from a general area? Any changes with RPM or speed?

    A couple questions on the cold air intake:

    - Did you need to remove the front right tire in order to get the snorkus out?

    - Quite a few people complained about the plastic tabs you need to remove in order to get behind the fender. Were these the two tabs you describe?

    Ken
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    It's funny, but as I was doing it I imagined, "Ken will do this next".

    I'm just brain storming, and I think the humming could be the horn. What else would have such a high pitch? I'll check tonight.

    I'm confused now, do you have 3 horns? Check behind your grille, and behind the passenger head light. I had two round metal-type horns in those places. What is the mystery horn behind the grille for, then?

    Have not driven at night yet. Should be sweet.

    Kill the snorkus tips: I pulled it out from the bottom, and did not have to open up the wheel well or remove the tire. I did have it up on ramps, though.

    I had the main bottom cover off, and removed the two plugs (yes, the ones everyone complains about) for the side cover and just pried it back. Ramon was right, they were damaged, but still usable, but I'll probably order new ones from Darlene.

    I was then able to reach up and mingle it around. I believe there is one bolt in that well that is tricky to reach, so have a flashlight handy.

    I managed, though the side cover tore slightly. It really does not matter - that's where it's sucking air from, so the bigger the hole the better! You don't notice anyway, even if you look.

    Let me know if you want the original, unshrunk and non-cropped photos.

    -juice
  • lucien2lucien2 Member Posts: 2,984
    Ya know, even the word "snorkus" sounds evil. Or stupid. Prolly had a difficult childhood, "snorkus the dorkus" and all. No wonder it is such a pain in the [non-permissible content removed] now.
  • nypdaunypdau Member Posts: 38
    Hello all:
    My "S" has been promised for next week, we shall see! I don't want to spend too much time in my folk's spare car (a 1977 Caprice wagon!)
    Anyway, along the lines of better lighting. I replaced the backup lights in my Volvo 240 with halogens, great in dark driveways. Would anyone know which manufacturer/bulb would be suitable for the Forester as a brighter replacement?
    Juice-Nice job on your site!
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    juice,

    Popped open the hood and looked around for horns. There are three in my Forester:

    - Behind the grille just to the left of the driver's light (this is the one you orginally replaced)
    - Behind the passenger side headlight in the engine compartment (the one you recently switched to)
    - The alarm siren located just behind the airbox



    Anyone want to take a stab as to why there are two horns in two different places?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    nypdau: looks like you're going to be the first to swap those. Careful with higher wattages, though, which could melt wires or harnesses. The trick is to get more light for the same wattage (and heat).

    I knew it! So I have two horns, you actually have 3 in your alarm-equipped S. I still have no idea what the one behind the grille does. It made no difference when I disconnected it.

    -juice

    PS The high pitched humming seems to be coming from the intake. Probably a loose air filter? I'll remove and replace it tomorrow, since I'm off again.
  • miksmimiksmi Member Posts: 1,246
    Between Edmund's and taking off to mod the Forester, just when, my good friend, do you actually perform services for your employer?

    ..Mike

    ..Mike

  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Aahh, building the web site is practice, remember?

    I'm also polishing my writing skills, and my problem-solving abilities.

    Now I hear TWO high-pitched whining sounds...

    :b

    -juice
  • miksmimiksmi Member Posts: 1,246
    Just had to give you some grief. Off to the beach!

    ..Mike

    ..Mike

  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    He who laughs last, ...

    I'll get you back September 10-16 though. OBX bay-bee!

    Though I'll mist the Mid-Atlantic i Club meet at Bull Run Park. Darn, just the place to show off my new mods!

    -juice
  • lark6lark6 Member Posts: 2,565
    Hey gang,

    I'm curious. You've seen those STI foglamp covers that 2.5 RS folks can get? (They're also on the WRC cars.) Any clue as to whether they're available for the Forester? I've been mulling using these as an option to the grilles if I don't expect to use the fogs for a while.

    Thanks,
    Ed
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    nypdau -- I believe you can contact a major auto parts dealer like JC Whitney and find out which sizes fit. The back-up bulbs in the Forester are pretty standard so it shouldn't be a problem. As for overheating, yes, it might draw more current, but you only drive in reverse for short periods of time so I don't think it would be a problem.

    Ed -- I think I've seen a photo of a tricked out Forester in Japan with foglight covers. Let me look through my magazines and try and figure out which one it was. Unfortuantely, the Forester's fogs are square so the STi ones probably won't fit.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Yep, Forester's fog light holes look unique to me too. I'm sure someone sells them, though.

    Good point about being in reverse for short periods, Ken, never thought about that!

    -juice
  • lark6lark6 Member Posts: 2,565
    I thought I saw a photo of a Japan-spec Forester w/the covers online somewhere. I know the STi models for the Impreza won't fit. I saw a pre-'01 L with the lamps removed entirely while I was driving home yesterday - looked really odd.

    Keep me posted...

    Thanks,
    Ed
  • originalbitmanoriginalbitman Member Posts: 920
    Got my California Car Cover for my 00 Legacy GT Wagon. The material is Kimberly Clark Noah and fit is PERFECT. Nice and snug.

    Going for 50 percent Madico Autolux tint on driver's and passenger side windows Monday. Its risky but light enough and offset by the 20 percent tint on the rear that I think I will be okay... this is in prep for my 2 month 7k road trip stating 9/6.


    Bit
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    2 month road trip? Sounds great. Is this a sabbatical, or did you retire?

    -juice
  • originalbitmanoriginalbitman Member Posts: 920
    juice - Neither really. I work for myself (graphic designer) and my wife is taking a leave on top of her month vacation. We usually do a one month road trip every September but wanted more time this year. In the past we rented either Camry sedans or Volvo wagons and that is what prompted us to buy for this trip. Started out looking for a Volvo and sort of discovered the Soob by accident... luckily!

    Anyway we travel mostly 2 lane, camp or stay in the older small hotels like the Wig Wam on rte 66 in Holbrook Arizona. I will try and get on line once and a while and post updates to our trip. The GT has 1100 miles on it now and will be over 8k when we return.

    Bit
  • tincup47tincup47 Member Posts: 1,508
    I wish I could do a trip like that
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    That sounds totally sweet. WDB went cross country and I was also envious.

    Try to take some interesting photos to share.

    -juice
  • lucien2lucien2 Member Posts: 2,984
    How's about a lil' rendezvous with the Bitster when he comes this way?? We could set up a Sunday gathering or something. ... prolly should take this to Events if it gets serious.
  • lark6lark6 Member Posts: 2,565
    Ken,

    That would seem to defeat the purpose of covering the fogs up completely when not in use. The safer thing to do (from a standpoint of preventing damage to the lens) would be to get hold of some of that clear adhesive or cling-on film and cut it to shape over the lenses. Ditto for the headlight lenses. Probably a lot cheaper, definitely a lot easier, and less of a poseur statement.

    Thanks for the info,
    Ed
  • alingaling Member Posts: 598
    I believe you can get the headlamp/foglamp protection film here: www.xpel.com or the plastic (i think it's plastic) protectors here: www.nordleth.com

    Drew
  • kate5000kate5000 Member Posts: 1,271
    One of these days my baby Forester will start hard work of every day commuting... I wonder what can I do to protect the front from rocks flying from under the big rigs. Anyone had any experience (good or bad) with the front-end cover? Should I take it off for every car wash?
  • subaru_teamsubaru_team Member Posts: 1,676
    Hi All! Just as an FYI - do not have leather installed in your Forester S yet. I read in an earlier post how someone was told that the side airbags were tested with leather by the leather supplier and that is news to me. We (SOA) have not completed testing (I know - it's a slow process) and we won't provide it until we are sure. My suggestion: If you really want the leather, wait for a bit for testing to be completed. All dealers were notified not to install leather as an accessory on these vehicles.

    Thanks!

    Patti
  • subaru_teamsubaru_team Member Posts: 1,676
    Your dealer does have access to information that tracks your Subaru order. If you strike out, call us at 1-800-SUBARU3 and we can see if we can get the information for you!

    Thanks!
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Kate - my front-end is left vulnerable, but I keep a good coat of wax on it and wash regularly. It's held up well.

    I personally don't like the "bras", or front-end covers, as Subaru calls them, but they are available relatively cheap.

    Then there are also the front mounted bug deflectors. They're black plastic and much more pleasing to my eyes. They mount with two self-tapping screws and some clips. I saw Garry's this weekend at the SCOA meet in Gettysburg.

    It'd probably be OK to leave both on if you're hand washing.

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Well, I did some fine tuning over the weekend.

    I had to remove the foam insulation, since it was nearly sucked into the air box! To make sure the air comes from the fender well, I then sawed off a small part of the "evil snorkus", just an elbow to ensure the air is not sucked in from the engine bay.

    The kept the part with the bolt, so it bolted on nicely and looks more stock than before. I have photos to share but they'll probably only be up and running tomorrow. It quieted the humming slightly, too.

    I'll share details with the photos.

    -juice
  • bcantbcant Member Posts: 1
    Will be purchasing a Outback Ltd. within the week. I want to install a cargo divider for safety. We have a one year old in a child seat with a tether strap. The Subaru cargo divider shown as an accessory states that it can not be used with a tether strap. Has anyone installed a divider with a tether strap in place? Any ideas or aftermarket suggestions? I would really like a net divider that rolls into the seat back, a la the volvo v70.
    thanks for your help!
    bcant
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    kate500,

    In my opinion, it's best to keep your front unprotected because of the added trouble of maintaining the protection.

    Front end masks may protect your hood from stone chips but they can also hurt your paint finish. Unless you're very careful, the masks can trap moisture which can do more damage to the paint below. You probably would need to remove it every time it gets wet and then clean the front end of your vehicle before you put it back on.

    The deflector is good, but as juice mentioned, it physcially "clips" on to your hood. I bought one long ago but I found it to get in the way of washing and it also caused my side mirrors to vibrate at speeds over 80mph. Also, I noticed that the clips actually left light scuff marks on my hood probably from me taking it on and off every time I washed my Forester.

    Another option is to go for those clear strips that are custom shaped for your vehicle. They're pricey but it probably will have the least damage to your vehicle.

    As for myself, I've just accepted the fact that chips are part of the ownership experience. Like juice, I keep a good coat of wax on my hood and I keep plenty of distance behind trucks.

    Ken
  • alingaling Member Posts: 598
    The design of the deflector can make a huge difference. I know that some people have had airflow problems with certain deflectors (making the windshield difficult to clean in the rain).

    Also, the deflector doesn't have to be smoke tinted. One can easily get it painted to match the body colour for minimal cost (I've seen tons of these in the US, but strangely very few in Canada). When painted, they're not even really noticable from far.

    Drew
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    bcant: I use the tether. It looks like a regular seat belt, so I imagine it can fold to fit through the safety cage.

    Then again, the buckle might not fit through. Take your seat to a model at the dealer that has one and try it out.

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Start here and check out the last 3 pages, which are new.

    The intake fine-tuning was pretty creative. My "foam" seal was a bad idea - it sucked, literally, into the air box.

    Check out the Gettysburg page to see Justin's fuel computer, a cool gadget.

    -juice
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    juice,

    How does the top end of the snorkus fit into the airbox? I was wondering if a little rubber/PVC tubing might be able to do the same trick. I'm just thinking of how I could preserve the snorkus just in case I wanted to reverse the modification.

    Do you remember the diameter of the snorkus outlet?

    Ken
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    It kind of slips in. The air box has a rubber gasket, so the snorkus' mouth fits snug inside the box, well sealed.

    A-ha, that's why my web site warns of the point of no return. My snorkus is trash indeed.

    Though with the plastic plug from the 2000 RS, it'll look completely stock. I doubt even a dealer would notice.

    The diameter is about 2" or so. I didn't measure, but you can actually see the mouth of it if you pop the hood.

    -juice
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    juice,

    BTW, I believe the part to cover up the hole in the engine compartment after removing the air intake is:

    46059FA000

    I found it on the I-club forums.

    Ken
  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    Hmm, I suppose we should get a quote from QSubaru on that. I'm not overly proud of my cardboard plug. ;)

    -Colin
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Colin - will do. I'll get a price from Darlene today. Can't cost much, and I need some touch-up paint for myself and my dad anyway (just in case).

    Use this site:

    http://powerdog.com/tiresize.cgi/

    235/55R16 is actually a better match. The diameter is virtually identical to stock.

    225/55R16 is a little shorter, so you'd lose ground clearance, but that may be a desired effect. You also get higher gearing.

    I doubt either one would rub. The new wheels' offset would likely be 40mm or less, since stock is 55mm I believe.

    Mine are 225/60R16s, and they're taller than either of the ones mentioned above.

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Price for the plastic plug thingy is just $4.20 shipped. Ordered one already.

    Darlene is going to be busy today.

    -juice
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    Yes! Darlene just shipped my new sway bar, bushings and that plug thingy to me today! I'm going to be busy doing some mods very soon!

    Again, if anyone doesn't yet know about QSubaru from juice's posts, they're great to deal with. Darlene is very helpful and responsive. Very low prices and they include shipping. I'm saving about $40 on the sway bar from the lowest price I could find at other places!

    PS:
    Colin -- Do you normally need to apply lithium grease or some kind of lube to sway bar bushings?


    Ken
  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    Yep. A small tube of it will probably be included with the bushings, but if not use your basic lithium grease found at any autoparts store.

    If you don't grease the bushing it will bind, resulting in some undesirable handling traits... not to mention noise.

    -Colin
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Ken: please do the rear sway bar first! :)

    Obviously I'm asking because I may hop on the band wagon!

    Colin: for the 30k service, what should I be lubing? Door hinges? Suspension bushings? Anything else?

    What about manual tranny fluid? Brakes were bled with the recall.

    Any other suggestions?

    -juice
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    juice,

    You got it. Actually, it's probably the easier and more noticeable mod of the two.

    BTW, did you resolve the humming noise issue? How's your version 2 intake modification holding up?

    Ken
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Intake 2.0 is holding up well. Removing the loose foam helped, and then routing it deeper into the fender well helped some more.

    Once I get the plastic cover from Darlene, I'll share more photos.

    I still hear a very faint humming, but noone else does. Am I being anal?

    I think I'll try to open the bottom of the fender well a little bit, perhaps drill holes into the plastic, so the noise can "escape" some where. So that's two upgrades for 3.0.

    Some guys on i Club are trying to talk me into a Kartboy shifter (cheap, at $150 or so), but I want to check if it'll fit and compare prices to Darlene's, since the SPT carries one too.

    It's nice to have even minor options that yeild a noticeable difference for under $200. A Rallispec muffler is a hard sell to my CFO (read: wife) since this is the family hauler.

    -juice
  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    Since you have a '98 Forester, I'd highly recommend the SPT / STi shifter. Subaruparts.com lists it for $202.80 plus shipping, I imagine QSubaru would be about the same.

    The '98 linkage is pretty sloppy compared to the '99-up. The STi shifter fixes that, you get a whole new linkage and shorter shift lever. The part number is C1010FA000

    -Colin
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