Dodge Dakota - Quad Cab

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  • fat_fendersfat_fenders Member Posts: 96
    Welcome to the ranks of happy Quad owners. I've had mine just over three weeks and about 1700+ miles so far. I really love driving this truck and you will too! I've never put this kind of mileage on a vehicle before but it's also been a while since I had anything decent, 1) for a daily driver and 2) with a V8.

    I keep finding reasons the I need to go for a drive. Gas mileage right around 16mpg and who cares? It's a truck and it's cool!

    Keep on Quadin'

    fat_fenders
  • towcrazy2towcrazy2 Member Posts: 337
    As it's turned out, the Borla cat-back I special-ordered for my Quad does not include a free-flow air filter setup. Does anyone have part numbers for the K&N filter and/or the K&N filter charger? Any input is appreciated!
  • towcrazy2towcrazy2 Member Posts: 337
    Forgot to mention in the above post that my Quad's a 4X4 with 5.9 engine.
  • spike50spike50 Member Posts: 481
    I too recommend the 4.7L V-8 over the V-6. After 4,000+ miles with a '00 Quad 4x4, 5sp, 3.55 rear, T&H package I'm glad to have the 4.7L.

    I could have easily gone with a slightly smaller engine if the Dakota had an overhead cam V-6, etc. - a smaller version of the 4.7L design with some power. You could get maybe another 2 mpg, which everyone wishes they had at these fuel prices, and the truck would be a little less nose-heavy, as it is with any of the V-8's.

    A day doesn't go by that I don't grin while driving it.
  • ole3ole3 Member Posts: 14
    Hey, "akula2"

    Where can I find (on the web) any info
    about front bumpers from Hanson Enterprises ?
    Are they designed to receive a winch ?

    I'm thinking about getting one (with a winch)
    from Reunel (but they do look pretty "blocky").
  • victxvictx Member Posts: 108
    My '01 with the Tire & Handling package came with P265/70/R16 tires. A friend of mine has the BFGoodrich tires on his explorer and I was very impressed with them. I too would be suprised by them not being rated higher. Maybe they are just trying to push the rest of their stock and the BFGoodrich sell themselves.
  • parfourparfour Member Posts: 7
    Love my new Dakota '00 4x4 ClubCab, SLT Plus, 4.7L, auto, 3.55, T&H with 31" Goodyear Wranglers, dealer installed trailer towing package.

    I tow a 16' aluminum boat and motor, (overall trailer/boat/motor wt. is about 1200 to 1500 lbs., tongue wt. is about 100 lbs.) most of the time just a few short trips a week around town, but several times a year to Northern Maine, an 800 mile roundtrip.

    I have several questions:

    1. What tire pressure should I put in my Goodyear Wranglers (31x10.5R15LT) when towing, particularly on the long trip to Maine. The tires had 40 lbs. in them when I bought it and the ride seemed a bit bumpy, so I reduced that to 35 which seemed to help. The tire chart that came as an addendum to my manual says this for my tires...."light loads, 30psi front and rear" and for "full loads, 35psi front and 41 rear".........I'm totally confused......

    2. Is towing in Overdrive a good or bad idea for me?....The 400 mile trip to Maine is pretty flat and 99% highway driving.

    3. Should I change the standard rear axle lubricant over to synthetic as the manual recommends when "...pulling a trailer for a significant number of miles."

    Thanks in advance........
  • ford_biiford_bii Member Posts: 120
    Hey, on you new Green over silver quad, are the bumpers painted silver or are they still that bogus grey plastic?? I heard they were going to paint the two-tone bumpers silver, which would make sense, but never got to confirm it...
  • lsuquadlsuquad Member Posts: 8
    Unfortunately, the bottom half of the bumpers are still grey plastic. I wish I would have ordered the fog lights because the grey plastic part of the bumper has round indentions where those lights would go. It looks like somethings missing from the front. The clear coat seems very soft, too. I think I've seen that in some other posts here.
  • themacguythemacguy Member Posts: 417
    benny15 - latest issue of (I believe) Consumer Reports shows the Dakota as a Best Buy; conversely their beloved Toy Tacoma only received a lesser 'recommended.' Go figger. Anyway, if you don't or won't go for the Quad cab for some reason - I guess you don't have kids and need the extra foot or so of bed length (whatever) - at least do NOT buy the V-6 for gas mileage. It just doesn't happen. I've got several (5) friends and some local 'friendlies' with that engine in R/C's (2), an S/C (1) and Quads (2), and not one of them is happy with their choice since the 4.7l came out. Not one. And their mileage is (maybe) 1 (one) mpg better than my 4.7 / auto. And two of theirs are 5 - speeds. Their resale value will reflect on their choices as well. It's $500 bucks WELL spent. Plus, the V-6 is on the endangered species list; that won't help resale either. ;-)

    asta - The Pirellis may be a bit soft; the BFG's will ride a little harsher. You might try the Kelly Springfields that lots of us in the oil fields use. They ride VERY smooth (noiseless, too) and have the best sidewall protection (from punctures, potholes, etc.) on the planet. Survey companies out here switch immediately from OEM tires (any) to them in droves. Oh, and they last for 50k+ too - first hand experience on 3 sets. No flats, no 'weird' wear, no adjustments other than rotations - EVER (for me). Plus, they are very cheaply priced as compared to others in the class. I've had a set on my Quad for the past 8k. You can get em at Discount Tire, and I'm sure, other places. They're also an American product as far as I know. I can give you many, many references.

    raider41005 - You might try the Access Roll - up cover = soft and VERY unique - looks flat too. A bit pricey, but... Also, a rubber bedmat is available from Dodge - probably built by Penda (like their bedliners) who knows. Anyway, they show one in their catalog.

    lsuquad - Baby that paint! Listen to towcrazy! I still paint some show stuff (usually black) and routinely (though not always) with a clearcoat. It doesn't matter; wait several MONTHS before putting anything abrasive on it (and never in circular motions). E:mail me and I'll send you a (long, LONG) response to several people who've emailed me in the past about paint care. Shoot, email towcrazy and compare notes. I bet they're nearly identical, and you can't lose by using 'known' quality products (MeGuiar's, etc.). And unlike politicians, we only lie to you once in a blue moon anyway.
  • cheatahcheatah Member Posts: 1
    can anyone tell me all of my choices of
    k&n filters? i know the have drop in ones
    for about $45. but how much are the ones
    where you change the plastic air intake?
    where can you get them?

    cheatah_@msn.com
  • astaasta Member Posts: 122
    macguy - thanks for the tip on the Kellys. I went to their website to try and find a match for the Quad (they only had up to MY2000) and they couldn't make a recommendation. Which model of Kellys do you use on your Quad? Best of all worlds I'd love an AT tire that is quiet and comfy on-road with the kind of sidewall-puncture protection and long tread life that you mentioned with the Kellys.

    victx - went back to the tirerack.com survey results and this time I found the BF Goody's in the "off-road maximum traction" section. Reason they didn't make the survey I was looking at is the site considers them a cut above all other off-road tires, like the Scorpions and the Yokohama Geolanders+ Interesting survey nonetheless, although as per my post above to macguy, neither off-road list even included a model from Kelly-Springfield.
  • zonkzonk Member Posts: 208
    themacguy - how are the Kelly's for normal road driving? I also notice one of the other postings stating that using passenger tires in certaim circumstances are ok instead of light truck tires. I probably won't do a lot of towing, but want the capability. So, how do you determine if the use of passenger tires are ok?
  • knkresortknkresort Member Posts: 79
    Another choice for a soft tonneau cover is made by Extang. I have one and really like it. It is holding up well, even in the Texas sun. Only thing I don't like is when you touch it and the sun has been beating on it. I have left permanent finger prints on the cover on several occassions. Other than that it is worth a look.

    KnK
  • bsparxbsparx Member Posts: 84
    My $.02 on tires...Generally, P rated tires have 3 plies of rubber/steel, and run at 30-35 psi. LT tires have 8 plies and run at 50-80 psi. LT's will be more puncture-resistant andbear more weight, but P's will roll lighter (marginally better mileage)and will give a better ride, and dissapate heat better for higher speeds. The stock Goodyear is a 5 ply which is run at 30-50 psi, so go figure...If you want one that does it all, but nothing very well, we have it already.

    I've driven SUV's and light trucks over 300K miles since 1987, as I worked as a firefighter and had a contractor's license on the side, full-time now. For the best P-rated tire in price, length of service, traction, ride, noise etc., I've never found better than the Dunlop Radial Rover. On my work trucks, and on our Dept's Type 3's (brush trucks) we run the Armstrong Norseman LT tires, excellent as well.

    BTW, I saw a lot of rainy-day accidents. A lot of Jeeps, SUV's and trucks who crash seem to be wearing the BFG's. Please take this as anecdotal and not scientific, and not as a slam on a company who sells boatloads of tires. Also, it may be that the BFG appeals to a more aggressive type consumer/driver who pushes his vehicle's performance...but it looks to me like the same interlocking tread which provides good traction in mud, dirt, snow, etc. had absolutely no channel to let water out if you decelerate rapidly, or especially if you lock up. Controlled lock ups with good tires are not necessarily always a bad thing...unless you push out all the water ahead of you and then get up on it and hydroplane. Look at the tires and think about it...be safe
    Ben
  • qc2001qc2001 Member Posts: 30
    well have 1300 on the 01 now and got the oil change from the dealer. i am supreamly happy with all of the truck so far. and now i will answer a few questions that seem to be lurking.

    1. the 16" tires on a 01 4x4 with the t&h is
    265/70/R16. 4x2 is 255/70/R16 i beleive.

    2. if you are looking for a goodyear tire that
    is good in snow, mud, etc. and don't care
    about milage i would look at the tires on a
    ford F150 w/ off-road pkg.

    3. my 01 w/ rear slider is tinted, and the
    heated mirrors are on their own switch.

    4. victx, you have an awesome site for those of
    us going aftermarket with a stereo. did you
    get the wire whip for a 00 dakota? and do you
    think that i should put a 1.5 din in? i kind
    of like the extra sized buttons and large
    display. if i get a 1.5 do i need the
    mounting extras or should it slide right in?

    5. i missed your handle, but to the one that is
    looking at the V6, don't be so cheap, you
    will enjoy the v8 for the $500 and will never
    be looking to jam the pedal through the floor
    to pass someone, trust me and others on this
    one. also only buy the v6 if you want a high
    possibility of getting a bad auto tranny. i
    think others have also expressed some
    extreamly common problems with the v6 auto
    combo.

    6. what doi care about tires, mine still have 35k
    left in them.


    Evan
  • raider41005raider41005 Member Posts: 9
    I would like to know a part # for a K&N filter for a 2000 w/ 5.9. I haven't had any luck finding one to date. Ant help would be appreciated.

    Oops, waxed my new dakota right when I got it. Didn't notice any scratching or hazing, looked ok when I was done. It is not the best paint job I have ever seen though. Seems to have some clear coat overspray or something on it (slightly rough).

    Thanks for the info on the covers.

    I had a set of Pirelli Scorpions on my Ram 1500 4X4. OK tires, good traction, no real road noise, reasonable price, not the greatest wearing tire though, I got about 35,000 miles out of them, but I drive pretty hard also.
  • raider41005raider41005 Member Posts: 9
    I would like to know a part # for a K&N filter for a 2000 w/ 5.9. I haven't had any luck finding one to date. Ant help would be appreciated.

    Oops, waxed my new dakota right when I got it. Didn't notice any scratching or hazing, looked ok when I was done. It is not the best paint job I have ever seen though. Seems to have some clear coat overspray or something on it (slightly rough).

    Thanks for the info on the covers.

    I had a set of Pirelli Scorpions on my Ram 1500 4X4. OK tires, good traction, no real road noise, reasonable price, not the greatest wearing tire though, I got about 35,000 miles out of them, but I drive pretty hard also.
  • cowtownaggiecowtownaggie Member Posts: 39
    The web page for the Hanson Bumpers:

    http://hansonenterprise.com/

    They look good, but are pretty pricecy!

    Cowtown Aggie
  • slickwilliedjslickwilliedj Member Posts: 252
    isn't dark slate replacing agate for 01? cause when i placed my order the dealer had written agate not dark slate. however in the 2000 agate was the darker of the 2 grays offered. therefore, since their only offering 1 color of gray for 2001 i'm going to have to asume that it doesnot matter if they wrote agate on the order form not dark slate since there is only one choice of gray.:)
  • astaasta Member Posts: 122
    bsparx - excellent feedback on tires. In fact, the only complaints I've ever heard about the BFG's from off-roaders is the large amount of hydroplaning the tire seems to suffer from. I agree with you about the tread design as the reason for lack of water dispersion and planing on rainy-day intersections or whatever real-world situations crop up. what tire would you recommend that is comparable to the BFG's in snow, sand, mud etc. and yet doesn't have that hydroplane effect?

    raider41005 - that was also the only negative thing I heard about the scorpions was the poor tread wear life. I might just take a look at those Yokohama Geolander AT+. BTW: Tirerack.com had the BFG for $121 per tire and the Pirelli's for $86 per tire. Both on backorder, so I guess they are popular to replace OEM tires. Anybody out there know of any other online sites for good tire discounts? BTW 2- shipping on Tirerack.com from Reno to Southern Cal was $58.00 Fed ex 2-day. Not bad for four tires!
  • bsparxbsparx Member Posts: 84
    For traction on diverse surfaces like the BFG, but with channels to clear water, you might want to check some of the Mickey Thompson tires, like the Baja Belted HP

    http://www.mickeythompsontires.com/baja.html

    or even the Goodyear Wrangler MT

    http://www.4wheelparts.com/product2.asp?imseqn=23&occlass=GOOD&cat=TIR

    Both of those have excellent tread patterns and friends of mine who use them swear by them. I don't need quite that aggressive a tread, and mostly do my 4 wheel driving in drained waterfowl marshes and snow, so the Dunlop Radial Rover

    http://www.dunloptire.com/tires/Rover_rv.html

    is perfect for me, as it provides good mileage and a nice, quiet ride too. It is a bit of a [non-permissible content removed] tire like the stock Goodyear, in that it can haul 2250 lbs/tire and hold up to 50 psi, but its about 5 lbs lighter per tire, less squared on the shoulders, and seems to be a lot quieter. These are superb tires. Good luck.
    Ben
  • towcrazy2towcrazy2 Member Posts: 337
    To others of you who've been scratching around for K&N filter part numbers for the 5.9L Quad, I share your frustration.

    For what it's worth, I e-mailed K&N from their site two days ago for part numbers on 3 items:
    1. Replacement filter (to fit in stock airbox)
    2. Filtercharger Kit (conical filter and replacement intake horn)
    3. Typhoon Kit (same as Flitercharger, but with "pretty," tricked-up finishes)

    So far, no response back... If I hear anything, I'll be certain to post!
  • zoomquadzoomquad Member Posts: 6
    I have a 2000 Quad Cab. I like everything about the Quad Cab except the gas mileage (17 in town with V-6, and yes in retrospect I would have gotten the 4.7L) and that the air conditioner condensate does not have a drain tube so that it drains on my exhaust so I have a snap, crackle, pop effect whenever I stop.

    Does anyone else have this problem. The dealer just stated that is the way it is supposed to be.
  • victxvictx Member Posts: 108
    qc2001
    Yes, the wire harness for the '01 is the same as the '00. I would think the 1.5 DIN stereo should install w/o a kit, but you may want to call crutchfield (when I called them a month ago, they didn't know) You may tell them the DIN area is the sam as the 98+ Intrepid. Whether you do a DIN or 1.5 DIN is up to you. 1.5 DIN may look more like an OEM install as it fits the slot, but the 1.5 DIN is a specialty item. If you get a DIN unit you are likely to find better features for less price, plus if you ever move it to another vehicle, you can. Thanks for the compliment on the site. I planned on photoshoping the pics to highlight screw locations, but I was too lazy. I'll get to it later.

    slickwillie
    Yes, agate was a '00 color and Dark Slate is the '01 replacement. The other '01 color is Taupe which is supposed to be brownish, but I haven't seen it. I would assume that if you ordered agate on a '01, it should actually come with Dark Slate. Again, Dark Slate is very dark, kinda like a graphite color.
  • themacguythemacguy Member Posts: 417
    zonk - the K-S tires have the best all around demeanor of any tire I've used on a truck (many - mucho). They don't handle as crisply as the Goodyears and are not as 'sophisticated' as the BFG's. They are simply the best riding, quietest tires with the best puncture resistance and mileage (both mpg and life) I've seen (& used). I (REALLY) had to be talked into getting them - Discount Tire even promised to replace them with ANY other tire for free after a couple of thousand miles if I so chose. I didn't, and that was 5 years, 40k+ miles ago (half tread left) on the larger Dodge at the ranch. I'll never settle for a lesser tire again. That's why I went to em on the Quad. Oh, and they allow you to add 10% more air for occasional towing. Pretty neat. Some brands will negate the tire warranty if they find you've been doing that with your tires. I know, it happened to me.

    asta - I'm running the Road Hugger (sounds cheesy, I know) on my 2WD Quad. I can't remember the 4WD name on my Prospector - but they're OWL style (the Road Hugger's are solid white letter style). I'll have to get back with you - it's at the ranch (about 150 miles from here). Maybe this weekend...
  • lsuquadlsuquad Member Posts: 8
    zoomquad- my 2001 quad has the same air conditioner condensate problem you report. Sizzle and pop for 5 minutes after I park it. It is very annoying. If the dealer won't fix it, I will find a way to drain it off myself. Has anyone else come up with a fix for this?
  • lsuquadlsuquad Member Posts: 8
    Victx - I have the taupe interior and it looks more grey than brown. Like light grey with a touch of brown mixed in. I wanted a light interior but was a little worried the taupe would look too brown. Not a problem, I'm glad I ordered it--looks great with the green exterior.
  • bookittybookitty Member Posts: 1,303
    We have deemed that color to be "greige".

    Bookitty
  • towcrazy2towcrazy2 Member Posts: 337
    Regarding the color... Listen to Boo, and let's get on with life!
  • bigal31bigal31 Member Posts: 189
    It's GREY I tell you......LOL

    Not trying to start anything..Wink, Wink..

    Allen-
  • zonkzonk Member Posts: 208
    Thanks,guys, for your responses. I hope I do not have to use your advice anytime soon. It's just that I have had some bad experiences with tires on all my vehicles - Firestones and especially the Goodear Invictas on my present Tacoma. They spin at the slightest sign of dampness on the road and the wear is unbelieveable. Now the Goodyear Wranglers on my wife's JGC seem very good - no problems with traction on wet or dry pavement and no sign of premature wear. The best tires I have ever had were Pirelli P300's (used on both a Camaro and Grand AM), followed closely by Michelins.
    themacguy - do you think there would there be a problem running a P series Kelly Springfield tire on a quad cab if you don't go 4 wheeling and probably won't tow very much? Would you use an equivalent P series tire to the LT series?
  • moparpower1moparpower1 Member Posts: 14
    Has anyone used liquid wax as the proper way to apply is to use straight back and forth method and not circular.Was just asking to see if this would help to not get marks in paint.
  • bpeeblesbpeebles Member Posts: 4,085
    (moparpower1) All waxes (liquid or paste) are recommended to be applied in back-n-forth rubbing motion. Picture the microscopic pores of the paint needing to be filled with wax. (rubbing firmly) The back-n-forth motion guarantees any microscopic scratches will be in only one direction. (No swirl marks!) The Zaino Brothers even suggest front-to-back on horizontal and up-n-down on vertical surfaces.

    The following URLs haves some good info on wax application.

    http://www.zainobros.com/
    http://www.autopia-carcare.com/
    http://www.waxdepot.com/

    ZYMOL (enZYme eMOLsuion) is my personal favorite. It is a TRUE caranuba that uses all-natural enzymes to emulsify the wax. (High-rated in magazine tests too!)
    It also smells great!!Banannas, coconut... my daughter thought I was using expensive hand lotion on my truck 8->
    (Their cheapest product is available even in WallMart)

    http://www.zymol.com/phihome.htm
  • themacguythemacguy Member Posts: 417
    The Kelly Springfields I use are (P)assenger, not (L)ight (T)ruck tires. I wouldn't own a set of LT's. I consistently drive way too fast.

    bpeebles - I've used Zymol a bunch on some of my Porsches - I still machine it though, as the paint gets a bit thin after thee decades or so, and hand rubbing ain't the best for thin finishes. I seem to remember the story of the guy (enthusiast) who invented the stuff - used the max amount of pure Carnauba he could get into the mix (over 25%+). He blended it at home or something and peddled it at car shows and what not. Great success story.
  • towcrazy2towcrazy2 Member Posts: 337
    For those like me who were looking for a K&N air filter or Filtercharger for the Quad with a 5.9... Don't hold your breath YET.

    I received word back on my query to K&N (quote):

    "Sorry, we do not make anything yet for your vehicle. You can check back with
    us towards the end of November for new updates. Thank you"

    If anyone else with the 5.9 cares to send off a polite note of interest, it might help stimulate the interest of their R&D folks (provided the marketing guys turn a deaf ear). The contact there is: lorenzom@knfilters.com

    Onward and forward! Guess I'll start looking for an alternate source in the meantime. Anyone know how to contact the AIRAID folks?
  • andy_jordanandy_jordan Member Posts: 764
    Amazed that you like the Pirellis so much Zonk - I have them on my XJ-S and absolutely loathe them.

    My personal favorite compromise brand is BF Goodrich - I haven't yet found anything I couldn't do off road in them, and I like the road performance. If my offroading was more mud and less snow then I would probably be looking for some Mickey T's - but not convinced that the on road sacrifices are worth it right now.

    The most important factor with tires is to make sure that whatever brand you choose they are rated for the load and speed that you are going to run.
  • ssk109ssk109 Member Posts: 6
    Hey folks. I pick up my '01 QC tonight! I saw that they '01 had the HomeLink feature in the overhead console. Originally, Johnson Controls had intended it to be able to turn lights in your home on and off, etc.

    Can anyone tell me if it's just garage door opener stuff still, or did they incorporate more advanced features?

    Lastly, did anyone successfully turn the horn-beep-on-lock feature or auto-lock-after-15mph feature off yet?

    Thanks!
  • kmennekmenne Member Posts: 15
    I went to my local auto part store and got a K&N filter element for my QC / 5.9?? At least it fit in the box, and was the same size as the factory filter element I took out?

    I will dig out the box at home and post it here..
  • astaasta Member Posts: 122
    tires et. al - andy - is that load rated for max payload that the pickup would carry fully loaded? If so how does that driving with an empty bed vis-a-vis inflation. Regarding speed - is that rated for max speed the pickup would do in real-world conditions (not on a closed test track in Michigan!) Finally, what is the difference between a similarily sized P (passenger) say 265/70R16 like the ones that supposedly will be coming on my new Quad 01 4x4 and the same size (approximately) LT (light truck)? Is it tread groove, sidewall consctruction and strength, ply level strength etc? Don't fully get the distinction since Dodge is sending me OEM P rated on what is obviously a 4x4 (off-road) vehicle. thanks.
  • zonkzonk Member Posts: 208
    I went thru a bunch of different tire models/makers before I tried the Pirellis. Maybe I just got 2 good sets (one for me; one for my wife). At the time, I was desperate to find some good ones. And they worked.
  • chiefdoc2chiefdoc2 Member Posts: 18
    My 4x4, 4.7, 5-speed left Warren on the 11th. I've been following it down on its way to Dallas. As of 9:40 this morning it was in Pine Bluff, Ark. This has been a hoot! I check for an update about every hour tho I know it doesn't update but twice a day. It's fun to check anyway.

    This vehicle is replacing my wife's '88 Mazda 929 (180K miles). We live in the country in central Texas and have about 5 miles of gravel road to cross twice a day. The Mazda has been great but the road has just beat it to death so we have high hopes for the durability of the new Quad. I ordered the posi-traction and skid plates also.

    Once in Dallas, it will be loaded onto a truck carrier for final shipment to Temple (about 120 miles). I'm expecting a call Saturday or early next week to go pick it up. Pretty exciting. I last ordered a vehicle in late '91 when I got my '92 full-size Chev 2500 4x4 long-bed which I've enjoyed very much for 130K miles. I hope the Quad will be as lasting and servicable yet smaller so the wife will like it.

    Thanks to all who have written here; I've read every post (600!). Am anxious to add my initial impressions when I pick the sweetie up and welcome her to the family.
  • bsparxbsparx Member Posts: 84
    The QC is only rated to carry 1450 lbs so the real weight/load test of tires would be in towing. So you have to ask not what is the type of driving you'll be doing the most of, but what will be the most critical function of your tires, whether it is towing, off-roading, streaking across Nevada in the middle of the night...

    With off roading, again, what kind of thing do you want to do? If you drive in Sierra Nevada granite (or on job sites with stray nails), you probably want an LT tire to resist sharp rocks. However, many off-road situations actually benefit from a lighter or P-rated tire. Snow, for example, certainly is unlikely to give you a puncture, and some of the best snow-clearing tires are good on-road tires too like the Michelin XW4's which come on high-end Subarus. For rock crawling in Utah, you want a less aggressive tread, so you have more rubber in contact with the rock, and less void spaces, again a P-rated tire is good. For thick mud, like in the South or the UP, you want a very aggressive tread, but not a heavy tire, so again P rated might be better. This is because you must break your tires loose into a spin to clear the mud out of the tread from time to time, and spinning heavy LT tires is much more likely to cause a failure than spinning lighter tires. (For a lot of this though you really need beadlocking tires and rims...)
    The compromise tires like the stock Goodyear are exactly that. They can hold/tow some weight, but not the maximum; they can off-road, but not in extreme conditions of any kind. They provide decent ride and mileage but not the best. The best assessments anyone can do of their tire needs definitely put ego / appearance considerations last..

    Don't be afraid to reassess your tire needs even if you still have relatively new / stock tires. These, as current media stories attest, are some of the most critical pieces of your truck, and your actual needs and safety come before appearance or that $600 you might want to spend on something else. The Goodyears are right for most drivers - that's why they're on the trucks. But some drivers need something different, and shouldn't ask an all-around tire to deal with excessive speed, loads, or conditions. Be safe...
    Ben
  • nthdgreeenthdgreee Member Posts: 24
    Hey Chiefdoc2, I've recently orderd my Quad as well and I'm very very excited. The order was placed on Sept 6th and I called Warren MI on Sept 11th just to see if they had my order. Sure enough they have it and I'm on a D-1 status with a build and ship date of the first week of October. It's a 2001 Black Quad, 4X4, power everything, overhead console, tow package, 4.7 V8 SLT etc..

    I was wondering when you actually placed your order. I'm trying to figure out how long it might take for me to get mine.

    If anybody else out there can contribute to their order/arrival time I would appreciate it.

    I've been looking at Dakotas for three or four years now and FINALLY I'm going to get one. I'm glad the Quad's came out because I do have a family and it makes it will make it much easier to get them around in.

    These boards are great! Very informative!
  • kwanderikwanderi Member Posts: 33
    Ordered mine Feb 3rd, 2000 and drove it off the dealers lot on March 9th. Expect a 5-6 week wait.

    Keith
  • bobbyt876bobbyt876 Member Posts: 27
    Mine was ordered on 8/2/2000 and I drove it away on 8/30/2000. 4 weeks ahead of projected 8 weeks originally told.
  • andy_jordanandy_jordan Member Posts: 764
    The speed rating of tires is the maximum safe speed. Don't ever exceed it for any length of time. The tire is not designed to deal with the heat build up.

    Some people will tell you that it really doesn't matter, it does, I have seen what happens when a tire gives up (on a track admittedly) because it was being used above its rated speed - it isn't pretty.

    bspark addressed the load and passenger vs LT issues very well and I can add nothing there.
  • surfzupsurfzup Member Posts: 7
    I have been looking at QC's for several weeks now, hope to get a '01 soon. Question on interior: I have seen the dark slate interior in cloth and leather and the taupe in only cloth. Does anyone know if they offer the taupe in leather for 2001?
  • lmeyer1lmeyer1 Member Posts: 215
    Ordered 8/14. Delivered to dealer (in Connecticut) yesterday (9/12).
  • gaquadgaquad Member Posts: 29
    I Ordered a Quad as I have said before but I forgot the body side molding. It was cheaper to get it on at the factory. My question is now that it is built and on the way should I pay extra and get the dealer to put it on? Or should I not worry?

    Big Q
    Does the body side molding help to reduce the amount of door dings? I live in an urban area so it is just about always in a parking lot.

    By the way I saw a nice Amber Fire Quad going down I-85 near Lenox today and it sure did sound good as it passed me. It had a V8 on the front quarter panel. I think it was an '00. Do the '01's also have the engine labels?

    Thanks in advance.
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