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SPORT SUSPENSION ON GOLF GTI
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Plus, whatever damping the car does have is pretty much rendered useless by the 65-series tires. Still, it seems like an excellent platform to build on.
It was updated today.
It seems vortex knows their stuff. Also, I believe that the new GTIs are simply closer to the Euro specs than the 2000 predecessor. I read somewhere that they had 'softened' the suspension previously for the american market. My new GTI feels very much the same as the ones I drove back in Europe.
Again, it's not a 'racing suspension'... but my new car seems to handle the corners perfectly (I'm not pushing it, I got it yesterday!)
But I guess it all depends what one calls 'sport suspension'...
As far as the 17'' tires... That's a bit 'much' for me and my driving requirements, but something in between would be nice.
If you REALLY race and need all the fancy sport mods, you'd have to resort to the aftermarket anyway. I don't care much for mods. I don't race!
This is just some advice for those thinking of upgrading the suspension. I 'm not referring to anyone in particular. Also, stiffer springs will make the ride stiffer too and you 'll feel every bump on the road. The stiffer the springs, the less comfortable the ride will be. I 'd recommend a bigger rear sway bar (anti-roll bar) to those concerned with keep the ride pretty stock. A bigger sway bar also reduces body roll dramatically on FWD cars, eliminates most of the understeer and in some cases (depeding how wide or stiff the rear sway bar is), it produces oversteer! My FWD now has oversteer. The reason they make the cars with understeer is because your average driver can't handle that much better than oversteer. Plus understeer gives you more warning before you lose control, understeer gives you less warning and to counter the oversteer effect you have to keep your foot on the gas. Most people let off the throttle which is the wrong thing to do, like in RWD cars that have inherent oversteer. Surprisinly keeping your foot on the gas prevents the tail from coming around.. Anyway I 'm going off on another tangent again. Just make sure you consult with others that have suspension upgrades before you start modding the car on your own. There are plus and minuses when modding and you should know what they are before making any purchases..
'06 Civic LX coupe
'11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
'13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
understeer is because your average driver can't
handle that much better than oversteer."
I meant the average driver CAN handle understeer better than oversteer. Understeer is actually much safer for most people.
"understeer gives you less warning and to
counter the oversteer effect you have..."
I meant oversteer gives you less warning.. Ok, so I can't type :-)
'06 Civic LX coupe
'11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
'13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
It might be smart to wait and see if any of the people with the chip out there are having any problems first. Who makes the chip? I assume it replaces the stock ECU?
'06 Civic LX coupe
'11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
'13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
'06 Civic LX coupe
'11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
'13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
'06 Civic LX coupe
'11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
'13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
200ft-lbs at the flywheel. Also 210hp at the wheels with just 6psi and a fuel pump. I 'm drewling just thinking about it. High 13's in the 1/4.. very tempting. Let me see, supercharger or divorce.. hmm.. I gotta think about that one
'06 Civic LX coupe
'11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
'13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
Anyway, I highly recommend the Neuspeed Sports and they 're also comfortable for every day use providing you soften up the Konis a little. BTW, I just ordered the Konis - darn expensive! Now I 'm ready to kick some butt My friend's GSR 4dr that has the same mods as me plus the Konis, handles much nicer than mine. I can't wait to get them. He does really well in DSP and has won some trophies.
'06 Civic LX coupe
'11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
'13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
We may be going down to Englishtown, NJ on Saturday but that a 2hr drive and don't know if the others will make it. I usually don't like going alone. Normally 6 of us go together all the time. 3 Type-Rs, 2 GSRs and 1 Prelude SH. I 'm looking forward to Englishtown because they 're also big on Drag Racing there. The only thing is, they charge you $10 to watch the drag races because the auto-x lot is isolated from that area and they treat you like a spectator even though you paid them $30 to auto-x in the adjacent lot..
They also have Import night there like every other weekend and you get to see all kinds of cars, some of them are 10sec Civics and 11 sec. Integras! If this falls through we 're definitely racing on the 13th with the BMW club (and lots of Porsches). We like to look at their faces when we beat their times
Congrats on 2nd place! 60 cars is a lot! you race in DSP class like me right? did they index you with all 60 people? (some SCCA clubs do that for cars on street tire) there wasn't 60 people just in DSP right? (I never have more than 10 cars in DSP but that's one too many for me - too much competition)
'06 Civic LX coupe
'11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
'13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
What pressures do you run them on?
'06 Civic LX coupe
'11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
'13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
I had a chance to drive a '00 VW GTI GLS this weekend. It is a very nice car. The interior feels very rich (with Leather). I thought it handled fine for a street car. I think it handled better then my '94 GSR Sedan. I'm sure the new suspension and better tires will help. The model I drove had 195/65VR15 allseason tires. The tires are so tall it makes me want to put whitewalls on it. The '01's have a $600 option for 17's with 225/45ZR-17 Michelin Pilot Sports. I can't wait for spring. I'm planning on ordering a '01 Reflex Silver GTI GLS with every option(monsoon sound system, leather package, and wheel package) and Black Leather interior. Check out a picture below.
http://vwvortex.com/news/index_2001VW.html
17" wheels with ZR tires? Now not too many companies offer this kind of package on a car under $20K. VW is thinking of the enthousiats, way to go VW. Now if we can get Honda to stop putting 14 & 15" wheels with dinky tires on their cars..
'06 Civic LX coupe
'11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
'13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
Care to enlighten me???
thanks!
Enlighten me.
The Camaro has a bad rap. It is a poorman's Corvette. I love the V8, but would not trade functional pocket rocket for a single function sports car. I have considered a Mustang GT, but I really like pocket rockets and need FWD for MN winters.
It's just that whenever the 1.8t is discussed, 3 out of 4 mention all the engine mods they want to buy. At the end of the day, it's not just a matter of buying a USD 500 chip... I suppose if you really want to get race performance from a 1.8t, you'd have to rake out at least 3000 USD and strip the car of excess weight (I am just guessing - have never contemplated doing it myself). Personnally, I'm more of a 'buy and forget' kind'a driver. The day I want to have a 'kick-[non-permissible content removed]' car, I suppose I'd go buy one of 'em vettes, or Porsches or whatever. But of course, functionality WILL be an issue!
I used to have a 1971 Pontiac T-37 muscle car and it sucked down gas and had no handling abilities AT ALL (very fun though). I got my first GTI 16V a couple months ago and loved it to death. Sold that car and now I am getting the 1.8t GTI because of the handling abilities. I got into the thought process a long time ago that bigger is not better and gas is freakn expensive......
The mods we do is because they do make the car a little faster and they 're not that expensive. If we want really good performance we can supercharge or turbocharge and blow away all stock Camaros, GTs and even Vettes! So why pay $40K+ for a Vette when for $5-6K you can blow it away with your $20K or under car? Now if you want to spend around $10-12K you can have a race car with 11sec. 1/4 mi. times. For a Vette to hit 10-11sec. (stock it's 13.xx) you have to get the twin turbo kit which is over $20K!! Most Integras with around $6K can be turbocharged and do some headwork (fuel pump, pulleys, fuel controller,etc. external stuff) to put down 300+ hp at the wheels. That's enough for them to go the 1/4 in 13sec. flat. Spend twice that much and you have a race car putting down 450-500whp doing the 1/4 in 11sec. or less.
That's why people mod their little 4cyl. cars. For most it's a project or hobby to keep them busy and they can be faster than most V8s with less money spent. I do it for the handling mostly. I don't have but 1 bolt on engine mod but that one alone gave me an extra 13hp and it was noticeable immediately. I can go on and on why we mod our cars but this post is already too long and I think I made my point
PS. Killed a 323 yesterday. Felt really good. Persistent fellow though. He didn't give up until he was doing about 125mph, but by that time I was about 5-6 car lengths ahead and pulling away (slowly but was pulling away nevertheless)
'06 Civic LX coupe
'11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
'13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
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I was just curious - and you made some really good points. Again, thanks.
If I bought now I would opt for the 17 inch wheels and better tires. check to see if the car was built in Germany!!!
I didnt bought the sport suspension cause i could not try one, and I dont trust the dealer (I trust a good combo of neuspeed sport springs and bilstein shocks)
My english is bad (I am french)