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Toyota Celica vs. Mitsubishi Eclipse
majid23
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I have a 2000 Toyota Celica GT. I outraced a 2000
Eclipse GT and I have an automatic trans! The guy
was shocked. I think it is stupid how people
compare cars by how they race. How often do you
race someone? Toyota is the better choice: more
reliable, better name, and faster! Challenge the
guy in the Eclipse to race you in ten years. His
car would probably be broken down already! Bottom
line: Toyota wins.
Eclipse GT and I have an automatic trans! The guy
was shocked. I think it is stupid how people
compare cars by how they race. How often do you
race someone? Toyota is the better choice: more
reliable, better name, and faster! Challenge the
guy in the Eclipse to race you in ten years. His
car would probably be broken down already! Bottom
line: Toyota wins.
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He was probably just shocked that you even tried to race him. He probably cared even less when he saw your none "S" GT badge from the rear too..
It's true though that the Celica should outlast an Eclipse. If reliability is a major factor, chosing between the two is a no brainer..
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'13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
I really doubt it. If you compare both cars they are near identical in specs. The Eclipse has a 200HP V6 but weighs 3120lbs. The celica has a 180HP I4 and weighs 2500lbs. I all comes down to an issue called power to weight ratio. The eclipse will take a celica off the line with the V6's Torque but won't kill it. It really will come down to who is the better driver. When the specs are that close one driver error will throw the race. I've beat and been beat by Eclipse GTs in my GT-S. Some races I was the better driver and others I was not.
About racing, it has to do more with the driver than the car. After all what is the point of racing on the streets? But if I have to, I am sure I will outlast any celica on the street.
The important thing is we never criticize each other in these forums. lol
one have more hp ..but..too much weight
one is so so hp..but lighter...???
can anyone tell me???
and..wut about include prelude
3 cars ..compare..which is better
( prelude SH, Celica GTS, Eclipse GT )
All three cars are wonderful, and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend them to anyone. Try all three and decide for yourself -- you can't go wrong. Just be sure to drive them enthusiastically, or you'll miss the whole point of the exercise. And if the salesman tells you to back off, find yourself another salesman and do it again!
how come ... it has kind of low overall ???
and... in prelude sh and eclipse GT celica gt-s
three of 3 are ok?
dont have a really good one mah??? or the same???
Between the three, I'd probably choose the Celica on the basis of style and handling -- I have one already, and I love it. But the reviews of all three cars have been glowing, and the Eclipse has more torque than the GT-S, so would probably be more relaxing (but less exhilerating) to drive. The Prelude styling is a little too laid-back for my taste, but it's an elegant car and it handles beautifully too. The Honda and TOyota are both likely to be more trouble-free than the Eclipse, but that's based on past history, not the current car, so who knows?
Cars like these are emotional, and buying one is an emotional process. I always say, drive em all, sleep on it and buy the one you wake up thinking about. What else can I say?!!
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Coupla questions -- why is the Celica listed as a coupe, not a hatchback, and why are 0-60 times not listed? Didn't you guys test all these cars?
Curb weights would help too, for power-to-weight ratios.
AWD (good all season car,especially with snow tires), 200+lbs torque, good handling, easy to add hp. With as little as $1000, you can add 30-40hp.
Cons:
Shaky reliablility record, poor resale
Thanks for your participation. ;-)
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Car & Driver says the Eclipse GT does 0-60 in 7.3 seconds and a prototype Celica GS-T did it in 7.5. (The real Celica may be a little faster, I'm guessing.) Anyway, it's not like the GT is going to waste a GS-T from a stoplight, or vice versa, as many people seem to be claiming.
I've test-driven both cars and didn't care for either, but if I had to pick one, I'd take the Eclipse. I don't like the Celica's exterior, I think the interior is needlessly cramped, the visibility is poor, and the lack of low-end torque is extremely annoying. (Be prepared to downshift every single time you go up a hill.)
I'll stick with my [much faster] '92 Eclipse GSX, thanks...
-Tom
Their "very" knowledgable here at townhall.
A 92 GSX in its time...was a great performance bargain. But compared to its competition these days...the peformance gap has been closed and all these cars perform close to one another.
The celica lacks low end grunt..but handles very sharply.
(BTW, sorry for confusing the GT-S moniker for the old Eclipse GS-T in my last post.)
Unfortunately, I don't know the skidpad numbers for new Eclipses, but I'm definitely not trying to defend new Eclipses here.
As for downshifting, yeah, I also complain about Honda engines. Now, I'm as big a fan of revving engines as anybody, but when I'm casually driving to the grocery store in a car that's supposedly capable of putting out 180hp, I don't want to drive up hills at 6000 RPM just to avoid losing speed. There are times when you don't want to play F1 driver (at least for me).
-Tom
The C&D test you refer to was an anomoly, and they admitted so later. The GT-S is a high-6 second car, slightly quicker but almost identical to the new Eclipse. Performance-wise, I'd call it a wash; the big difference is in the handling. Some prefer the Eclipse, others the Celica. Choices, choices!
as for handling. i just dont see how a car as big as the eclipse can be as nimble as the celica. on the highway perhaps it is more sturdy but that's about it.
CAN ANYONE TELL ME AND...GIVE ME ADVICE
AND...EXPLAIN...THANK YOU
BECAUSE..I AM THINKING ABOUT THERE TWO CAR...
GSX OR GST????
Yes, I've had the complete TRD set-up (Eibach springs, KYB shocks and struts) for a year and a half now. Had to trim my fenderwells a bit to fit the 16" Primaxes with 205/45 Sumis, but haven't had any other problems. Need to trim the bump stops, though -- shoulda done it when I first installed the kit. Toysport wants to put a set of Tokico coilovers on it, but I'm afraid that may be too harsh -- we'll see.
I don't think you'd have a problem with rough roads, as long as you're not carrying more than one person with you. Remember, you're reducing suspension travel by about 20% (trimming the bump stops gives some of that back). Those nasty roads are he11 on your alignment, though.
Be sure to get a strut tower brace too -- makes a big difference in steering response.
about 1995-1999 Mits. Eclipse's part website
like change the parts...???
thank you....
I own a 2000 GTS and can confirm the 6.6 0-60 speeds. That comes from Motortrend.
The Eclipse GT is right about 7.0 or a little over according to Motortrend. But, the 0-100 times have the Eclipse winning easily - also a top speed of 144mph (car and driver). HOWEVER, car and driver has the Eclipse winning in 0-60 so who know. I guess it goes back to the better driver theory!
If anyone wants, I can provide the links to prove all of this.
The GTS will go uphill in 6th gear without losing speed. No downshifting needed (unless under 60mph). The Eclipse however handles more 'sure-footed' and is much more comfortable in the interior.
hmmmmm
What do you think?
The GT 5-speed is 7.6 seconds
The GT auto is 8.3 seconds
If you don't mind the softer, more nuetral handling of the Solara, the SE V6 5-speed does the 0-60 in 7-7.3 seconds. Price-wise, they will be similar. Handling can be improved with the TRD/Eibach lowering springs, rear swar bar, and TRD/Bilstein struts (about $1700 in parts plus labor). Though it has a trunk.
Read the full story here: 2003 Mitsubishi Eclipse, Brent Romans. And let us know what you think. Thanks for your comments. ;-)
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I also have an acquaintance with a 6-speed and he says that getting under 7 with a GTS is very difficult, again the same cam switch over issue. Once you drop below 6000 rpm, the engine has no power. The car is reliable, it's unfortunate the leather and 4 wheel discs aren't available in the GT - I'd have gone that way for the lower fuel costs. I consider the Celica a sporty economy car in either configuration.
Besides, the GTS will pull 33mpg.
I thought the suspension was the same on both cars?
I also never seem to get the mileage people talk about, only 29 on the highway, but that's close to the EPA sticker
I have raced both GT-Ss and Mitsu GTs autos and beat them both. I also raced a Dodge Stratus R/T 5speed and was side by side with him from 0 - 65ish. (The Stratus R/T having the same drivetrain as the Eclipse GT) I have never raced a 6-speed GTS but I would like to, knowing that I would lose, I would like to see by how bad (and if the $3k option is really worth it).
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