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  • zoomzoom79zoomzoom79 Member Posts: 272
    Negative equity ... I don't want to go there. One thing is true about Mazdas. They sure don't hold their value like a Honda. But I knew that and bought it anyways because of the 0.0% financing. I like the Protege but overall it doesn't seem as "tight" as a Civic even with 100k on it. A few more rattles than I am used to.

    We are buying the Civic regardless. I figured if nothing else we can buy it, clean it up real purdy, and put it in the autotrader (what's a good private party price by-the-way?). Worse that can happen is it not sell and then we have to keep it ;) But we are going to put it and our 93 Civic in there and see which one goes first.

    Also, do you think $4250 is a fair private owner price for a 93 Civic EX coupe 5-speed? It's that teal green color over dark gray int. 141,000 miles. a few sctraches and dings but no paintwork. It has the spoiler and we have records for the timing belt within the last 15,000 miles. Tires are great and it needs nothing but a good owner :) That sounded so corny.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    I'm just a glutton for punishment. I know I'm going to hate myself for even asking this, but can ya give me a number on this:

    '98 Subaru Forester L
    automatic
    79K clicks
    CD player
    aftermarket cruise (does that help at all??)
    Dark green here in the northeast
    Oh, and its got a nice dent in the front fender that we did an OK job of straightening, but I have yet to get it painted.

    My wife likes the LR Discovery, so I'm thinking about it. I don't think, however, that we'd be able to get out from under the Subaru so early (only had it about 20 months). Not to mention we overpaid for it to begin with to get out of a lease.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • soberssobers Member Posts: 496
    I think 15500-15700 is the figure we are looking on the 2000 Accord SE. The owner has washed it every weekend & waxed it every 3 months (Zymol wax) !!

    We work for the same company. (He also uses tire wet/glass cleaner & What not, regularly!!)
  • soberssobers Member Posts: 496
    1999 Toyota Camry, Dark Green, 31,000 miles. 4 Cyl Automatic, CD/Tape, Premium Audio, Keyless, Security, Gold package, Reasonably good michelin tires (30K more miles), ABS

    What do you think ? maybe 13 grand ??
  • abtsellerabtseller Member Posts: 291
    That would be a great deal retail, but I don't think it would bring that much on trade, maybe in the 11s-12s.

    Ed
  • youbetcha22youbetcha22 Member Posts: 3
    Medium Red, 57K, sle trim level, new tires, a few door dings, and one minor crunch to the front bumper (crease in the wheel well, otherwise not really noticeable - repair estimated @$1k), runs great. What's a realistic trade-in value here in Minnesota (Twin Cities)? Thanks.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    .... Hey, the twin cities ... how are you ..?

    I have sent a ton, of 4x4's your way this year. Thank you very much.

    Ok my friend .. it's an SLE with new skins. The miles are super right for the year ..

    We have about a ghee whiz in some "fix me ups" .. 4x4's draw big "cake" in your area, so I gotta think your lookin' at "in and around" that $6 figure on a trade, even with the stuff to be fixed .. IF, the rest is clean, and it can stand tall.(if not, start deducting)

    Me personally .. I have it cleaned and detailed .. make it look like a diamond (forget the fixes) .. drop it in the paper with a FAT five liner for $8,950 --- and let some one come over, and slap Ya around for $8,2/$8,5. this vehicle has no miles ...

    Happy hunting ... and let us know.

    Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ...... SOBERS AUTO EMPORIUM ....

    Sobers says: The best way to get on your feet .. is not make a payment..!

    l..o..l...

    Ok, I'm guessing it's a LE. It's a 99 with 30 short klicks. If it has "eyes" .. looks good, no fruit loop stuff.. on a trade, it "could" do in the short $11's, high $10's -- So, Abs is all over this one ...

    Terry.
  • steine13steine13 Member Posts: 2,825
    The ff. showed up on our University on-line ads:
    --------------------------------------------------------
    1996 Ford Contour GL 4 Door Sedan

    Dark purple
    2.0 Liter 4 Cylinder
    Automatic transmission
    Anti-lock (ABS) Brakes
    Dual Airbag
    Power Steering
    Power Windows/Door Locks
    AM/FM Stereo Radio and Cassette
    Air Conditioning
    Speed Control
    Console

    New Tires

    Mileage: 41,285 miles

    Asking Price: $6,400
    -----------------------------------------------

    I shot the seller a quick email and told her to post here... she hasn't, but she's bought this thing for about the same money fairly recently from a private person, and she was a little bitter when I told her what I *thought* it might be worth... my guess would be just under $3k on trade, take anything over $4k on the street. But what do I know... low miles but wrong color... good car but unpopular... let's suppose it's pretty clean...
    Please enlighten me, oh Knowledeable Ones!

    -Mathias
    East Lansing, MI
  • youbetcha22youbetcha22 Member Posts: 3
  • JPhamJPham Member Posts: 148
    Ok ... I think I'm getting closer ... the Q45 was a dud.

    I want to get rid of my '97 Accord EX 4-dr, black, 60k, auto, superclean (once I detail it). Tight .. no squeaks/rattles .. and all records.
    There are hardly any '97s around here to base anything on .. I'm thinking $12 and take the first 11.5?

    The object of my affection is a black '92 Lexus SC300, auto, 85k, very clean, with all records
    but he's asking $12.5.

    What do you think, Terry and Bill?

    Thanks.

    JP
  • lancerfixerlancerfixer Member Posts: 1,284
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    Nowhere the hell near $19,000... And the reserve isnt even met!

    Jeez!

    I mean.. I dunno... $12-13K maybe?

    Bill
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    Uhhh...

    If she's reading this she is about to hate me.

    That sounds like a $2,500-3K wholesale car. No miles helps, Purple hurts.

    Umm.. $4,000 retail... maybe she can get $4,500.

    $6,400? Nuh-Uh. Not since 1999.

    Sowwy...

    Bill
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    Hmmm...

    Your car:

    $8,000-8,500 wholesale, $10,900/bo in the paper, Grab $10,500-10K.

    You're a tad high here I think... But if you can get $12K and make ya a "three and a half pounder" good for you :)

    On to the SC. The 6-cyl SCs arent all that super hot. What color is it? Oh.. ok.. Onyx. So say its just like NEW.

    It will waddle across the block at $7,500-8K or so and the check you write should be no more than $10,000-10,500 or so.

    $12,500? Not unless you get $10K on trade for the Accord... :)

    Bill
  • JPhamJPham Member Posts: 148
  • pondviewpondview Member Posts: 22
    Anyone know the trade in on a 1998 Rodeo S 4WD, power everthing but seats, including power sunroof. Only 37,000 miles, in the Northeast. It's coming off lease and GE Capital has quoted me $11,000 to buy it out. The residual 4 years ago was $16,700..no wonder GE Capital is getting out of the game. Is $11,000 a fair price?...seems so to me.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    I'm worried that my previous post was missed. The wife is getting anxious to make a move, but I need to know where I stand on this trade-in. So here it is again:

    '98 Subaru Forester L
    automatic
    79K clicks
    CD player
    aftermarket cruise (does that help at all??)
    Dark green here in the northeast
    Oh, and its got a nice dent in the front fender that we did an OK job of straightening, but I have yet to get it painted.

    As always, thanks guys.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    If you like it...

    Buy it. I think that this truck would do $10,500-11K across the block easily. So then you have fees..etc...

    You can by it for what a dealer would pay for it at the auction, actually maybe a tad less.

    $13K is what I think you ought to be able to get for it on a private sale... And what I would tell you to shoot for (Id say grab $12,300+ tho)

    Can you make money on it after you buy it out after paying taxes? Prolly not a lot, not enough to make it worthwhile (After taxes..title..etc.. maybe $700-800 on a private sale) but if you like it, I doubt you could go out and buy one for that.

    Bill
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    Glad to help!
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    Oops!

    Sorry if I missed one!

    Feel free to send me to my room... And speaking of punishment, where's Terry hiding?

    OK... So you had a very light game of bumper cars with it, and it has about as many miles as I'd wanna see on a 1996ish Subie...

    That being said, righ market for it...

    Still, I think we have $6,500 to maybe $7K here...

    Bill
  • bstreetbstreet Member Posts: 37
    hey. i have a 98 as well. Not as fancy as yours - no power sunroof - and a few more miles (53K). GECal gave me a buyout price of $9550. TOO high. Auction is only getting 9k TOPS for mine. Black book is only $8750.
    If you're thinking of buying yours, offer them less. My residual was sky-high as well, of course, but $9550 is still too high.
    good luck
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    If GECAL (And I personally, due to the twit who reps their cars in Orlando, hate them so I hope they lose their butts on everything they sell) offers you a car that would do $9K across the auction block for $9,550 as a retail consumer....

    Thats not a bad deal at all. Figure... say I pay $9K for a Rodeo at the sale. Now I'm into it automatically with Fees for $9,175 or so. Add $100 or so in floorplan, $40 to transport it..blah blah blah...

    The Question you gotta ask yourself is... Can you go out and Duplicate your car on the market for that kind of $$? Answer is likely going to be a NO.

    On a Private sale you'd be crazy to sell your owncar for within $500 or so of what it would do across an auction block.. it would be a waste of time. I certainly cant sell cars for within $500 of what I pay for them... Otherwise I;d have to get paid by Edmunds :)

    Bill
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ....... Hey, those Rodeo's are a good ..

    Ooop's an excellent price for both of those ...

    Especially Pondview ... if you can buy it for $11, that's a deal..! You living in the NE, it would do an EASY $11 and change at the chutes. A dealer will buy it, send it home, service it, by the time he's done he's will have the high $11's in it. That would be stuck in a paper for $14,900 --- you can throw yours in for $13,900 and let someone come over and "steal" it from you for $12,8/$13/$13,200

    IF -- you decide to send it back, make sure your paper work is *signed sealed and delivered to you*. Gecal is horrible on returns, I have a customer that's being charged $600 for a headliner ....Yup, a headliner.

    Good luck ..and stay in touch...

    Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ....... Your from the NE, but even with the miles and the "fan Dango dance" going on .. it will still do the $8's ..

    Unless it's all trashed out, tires are burnt off and you have Antlers still hanging off the hood from your last hunting trip .. :-)

    Terry.
  • pondviewpondview Member Posts: 22
    That's what I figured, $11k is good deal. They quoted $13k as the buy out just 2 weeks ago, then dropped it to $11,500 all of a sudden(they told me the $11,500 was a dealer discount price). When I heard this , I haggled some more and they dropped it to $11,000, and they wouldn't go any lower(I tried a few more times, lol) In regard to taxes, I would not have to pay them as the third party buyer would sign the sales contract and title page document. Basically, I was told to advertise it, and if I couldn't resell it, I could then turn in the keys in 2 months. I do not have to buy it from Gecal, anyone can do it with the package they faxed me.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    OK. So, the big question is "should I get the fender painted?" Is it worth it?

    You guys are about a grand apart on the wholesale, but since Bill called it a 96ish, sorry, I gotta go with Terry's 8 (not to mention I WANT to go with the 8 :)).

    Anyhow, taking the 8, what might I get if the fender was painted?

    Also, what do you guys think of a 96ish Land Rover Discovery with the dual moonroofs and jumper seats? Say 70-80K clicks. automatic.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • timadamstimadams Member Posts: 294
    What is my wife's 2000 VW Beetle GLS worth trading in and private sale? I'm in PA, for what it's worth.

    Light Blue
    17,200 miles
    moonroof
    alloy wheels
    CD changer in trunk
    heated seats
    remote entry
    5 speed

    Thanks for your help, guys.
  • lancerfixerlancerfixer Member Posts: 1,284
    Out of curiousity,

    Where would you guys peg (retail) the following:
    '98 V70 non turbo
    Pretty basic- 5 speed, cloth, no roof, no alloys, only real option is cold weather pack. 53k miles. Dark green/gray. It's been sitting on the lot of the local Euro joint for a couple months now.
    '97 850 GLT wagon... auto, cold weather pack, roof, CD...the whole nine. 67k. Maroon over gray leather, on the same lot.
    Tempted...(Mrs. Lance will most likely slap me back into reality, though...)
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... Wagons are hot right now, new and used. 53k is nothing on a Volvo, if it had 253k than it would be a hard road to go .....

    It's that Flippin' handshaker you have sticken' out of the console that doesn't help it (to your advantage)..l.o.l.

    But, if it's a nice ride .. the dealer probably has maybe $12 in it ..and that may be a stretch, based on the time he has had it .. Jan right ..? I'm surprised some College guy hasn't grabbed it yet. . ..I'm sure the dealer would Love to see that puppy go -- by by!

    The 850 has a lot more stuff, miles are right, plus it has one of those new fangled inventions called an automatic transmission (I have read about those) ..l.o.l. ---- I have a feeling, that he has "around" $13 in this puppy. What's he asking for em' ..?

    So pick your poison .....

    Terry.
  • JPhamJPham Member Posts: 148
    re: Land Rover ...

    I was looking into relieving my nephew of his '96 RR because he's having probs making payments and discovered all these horror stories about mid-90s
    Rovers (RR's and Discos) -- even from diehard LR owners.
    Unless you really want it for offroading and are willing to do alot of the maintenance yourself, you'll be in for many (expensive) days at the shop.
    looks like the kid will have to get thru this on his own. ;)

    JP
  • lancerfixerlancerfixer Member Posts: 1,284
    ...and I will always, always row my own gears! You hear me, auto makers? You can get my clutch pedal when you pry it out from under my cold, dead foot!

    Sorry, got a little carried away there. :-)
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... Oh my goodness, where's the Bug spray... there all over the place..!

    Ok it has 17k, low for the year... right color (kinda) .. it's a manual, hmmm how strange. And it has all the good stuff going for it.

    If it's clean, no Bug bites, no little critters running around the interior, then you are driving a vehicle that should Swat "around" $12/$12,500 on a trade.

    I hope that figure doesn't Bug you ...

    Terry. :-)
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... l..o..l.. --- God bless Ya .... the Lord hates a coward...

    Terry. :-)
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    Yeah, i've been reading a lot about problems folks are having with them. I just can't bring myself to completely believe it. I really haven't found more than a handful of real complaints. Disappointing part is that I have not read one praise about their reliability. so that's a little disheartening. For now, I'm going to believe that its the old story where the people with problems are louder than those without. I read many complaints about the Volvo S70, too. I bought one anyway and have yet to regret it.

    Oh, and did I mention that I also own a trouble free Alfa Romeo? I think I must like trying to prove the odds wrong. ;)

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • berry113berry113 Member Posts: 13
    How much dickering is reasonable on a used car at dealer? I don't want to insult the sales staff, but I also like to "think" I'm getting a "good deal". Is it crazy to start nego at $1,000 over edmund's wholesale price in hopes we end up close to TMV? Chicago suburb - It's a 2000 SLT, 32K, with every option (heated seats, moonroof, etc.) TMV around $27,250, dealer retail $28,600.
  • hungrywhalehungrywhale Member Posts: 83
    Check out the LR Discovery topic in SUVs. Even the most die-hard LR owners admit the shortcomings of the Disco. Make sure it's got a complete maintenance history, though.

    That said, I like the new Discos and may lease one for the wife when her lease is up.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    Terry REALLY Likes that Forester... Smahsed fender and nearly 80K on a 98... ya think 8K?

    Well I never ever buy em... and youre in the NE now... So I will defer.

    Ya surprised me there.. really... =O

    Re: Rovers... I have had decent luck, but 95-early 97 4.0/4.6s are hit or miss...

    Bill
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    Hmmm...

    $28,900 doesnt sound all that bad really...

    Is it me, And Terry has me beat on these, but I gotta think thats a $26K truck at the sale easily... So $28,600 all said and done isnt all that bad really... $27,500 would be a steal.

    I'd rathe Terry hits this one... I dont pay much attention to em.. I hang out in the exotic lanes :)

    Bill
  • jpvwaudijpvwaudi Member Posts: 139
    always do crazy money at the auction; just like a Mustang GT, certain pickups, etc. 28900 sounds fair to me.
  • timadamstimadams Member Posts: 294
    Good call, Terry.

    I went to Carmax last week and they offered me $12,050 for it (of course, I expected more). I haven't negotiated any numbers with the dealer my wife wants to buy a new car from, but I wanted an idea when we go in and your numbers and Carmax's are very helpful.

    Two questions:

    What do you think I can get selling it on my own? I've looked at ads and price estimaters online, and the prices are all over the place. What's a realistic private sale number? It's in very good condition (no bug bites and a clean interior).

    Has the resale value of Beetles dropped a lot lately? I could have sworn values were much higher just a few months ago. Do you think they will go up as we get nicer weather, or have Bugs finally caught up with thier faddish demand?
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    OK. guess I should have been a little more specific. I wanted to know the numbers on a '96ish Disco SE or SE7 with 70K miles here in the NE. I'd like the wholesale. I'll take it from there.

    Thanks!

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ....... So you have a 96 "John Travolta" SE/7 with 70 beats per minute -- Gotcha..!

    Saturday Night Fever, is a super top 10 movie, but the "Disco" Rovers, well their ratings aren't doing so well ..l.o.l.

    It's got a ton of klicks ..and so you are lookin' in and around $6/$7ish ..

    Stayin' Alive ...

    Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... Right now, Yukons/Tahoes are stronger than the 101st Airborne in a fire fight. I have bought 20 of these in the last 3 months. It's either step in, or step out of the way ...

    Find a price, you both feel comfortable with and go from there. I just paid $26,500 in Manheim for a 00 SLT (has it all) 22k, I paid $27,500 for one last week in N. Carolina. 01's are doing well over $30++ if they are nice -- and I'm in the "wholesale" end of it.

    So, now what ...? The price seems fair.

    Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... How much cost is the fender ..? American money.

    Terry.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    That low on the discos??? And here I was thinking $12K looked like a good deal! Geesh! In that case, I have yet to see a decent deal in the papers. I think $11K was the cheapest I've seen and that is minus the jumper seats.

    I have no idea how much the fender on the soob would cost. Its not bad. It wasn't in a traffic accident or anything. The wife just needs a little coaching when parking next to poles. Somehow she caught the side of the fender. So, picture a football sized dent and missing paint. We sorta did a backyard bang-out on the dent last year and primed the spot to prevent rust. That's where its at now. So, does that clear anything up? I kinda feel like getting it painted might not be worth it since you guys always say that paintwork can be spotted by the educated. I mean, if they are going to know it had body work, why try to hide it? But, if it would cost me, say, $250-$300 to fix and add $500 to the trade-in, then I'll do it. Any thoughts?

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • peachtree103peachtree103 Member Posts: 182
    Well, in my week of dilligent shopping, I've made it to all of one dealership, read one day's classifieds, and visited autotrader.com. No screaming bargains on Jeep GC's or Lincoln LS's this week, but I've been distracted by real world issues, (like work), uggh.

    But, after today's posts, should I be considering a 98 or 99 Discovery instead of a Grand Cherokee? Goal is to drive for 18 months or 30K, and have the lowest depreciation. I doubt reliabilty is an issue, since neither has a stellar reputation here. Assume the Discovery has higher repair costs, but other than that, what's your opinion, Bill & Terry?
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ...... All of the Rovers values drops like a "bad habit" ... That's a super tough market, very competitive. They have all kinds of difficulties.

    But on the retail side, they have a huge book, and people will use em' as say "Hey the retail book say's it's worth this and that" .. so if it's worth $7 on the wholesale side, then $10 is a more than fair offer. But if you can give some more details on specific a vehicle, we can be much more helpful.

    And yes, get the Forester fixed. They are popular, especially up north and the reliability and build quality speaks for itself .. they might be a little goofy lookin' (nothing personal) .. but people love em'. I can spot a bad job a mile away, but if it takes me a few, then the body guy did his job the right way, and it will sell.

    Yes, it's funny. I have read some posts about the Volvo's .. but people who know em, drive em', live em .. know they are a fine vehicle. If you get some spare time some night, read through the Benz post's -- you will be on the floor. l..o..l...

    I hope this helps ...

    Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ... Not even an issue, a Grand Cherokee...

    There easy to sell, the market is vast ... if you get a Riskovery -- Oooop's I mean a Discovery, your market dwindle's and buyers are scarce at trade or sell time ...

    Terry.
  • zoomzoom79zoomzoom79 Member Posts: 272
    I just found out that the 94-95 Legend sedan was available in GS trim with the good 230HP engine and 6-speed manual. We gotta have one. Do you or anybody you know have an idea of where I can find one of these. I searched on autotrader and only found 4 in the whole country. Is it hopeless?
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