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  • cyranno99cyranno99 Member Posts: 419
    my sales guy said early December... sounds more realistic.
  • bobcatbobbobcatbob Member Posts: 187
    I would guess that Late October or early November is the time they will arrive.

    December is probably too long, especially considering all of the July, August and September press this care received. In December they'll being to talk about the 2003 Model year cars to be introduced in early 2002.

    Nissan will want the SE-R out there sooner rather than later because the Vibe/Matrix, Civic Si, and Ford Focus SVT wil be out by 2/2/02.
  • cyranno99cyranno99 Member Posts: 419
    I guess my dealer is slow since they have only two new Altimas on the lot!!!
  • mdrivermdriver Member Posts: 385
    The 2.5L won't be as smooth as the 2.0L because larger displacement engines produce more vibration. This is why motorcycle engines can rev to 10,000 RPM without issue. Once a 4 cyl. engines gets above 2.0L, balancers are usually added to smooth the harshness. But balancers also drain power from the engine.

    The Elantra GTs selling at sticker is an indication of how good the car is. I still wouldn't pay sticker price though. But anybody shopping for a Sentra GXE would be wise to look at the Elantra GLS. The Elantra's resale is low, but then so is its initial price, but it feels anything but cheap. The Sentra's resale price is nothing to rave about either. As a former Sentra owner (and fan), I must confess that having driven both, the Elantra seems like a significant step up in driving capability.
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Member Posts: 6,249
    <<selling at sticker is an indication of how good the car is. >>

    Huh? Sounds to me that it's a sign of how guillible the buyers are. Why pay sticker for a Hyundai when you can get a Nissan, Toyota or Civic at, below or near invoice?
  • zhzzhz Member Posts: 29
    I don't really mean 2002 GXE. But I paid $13200. for my 2000 GXE 5sp out-the-door price (7% tax). No negotiation needed. This dealership has been selling every Sentra at $1500 below invoice (they added a $400 Ads. fee) so it's about $1100 below invoice. They're doing that on 2001s too.
  • joelbjoelb Member Posts: 16
    narenji: I haven't bought a car for $1000 below invoice. Another person stated that they bought a car for that incredibly low price. I am curious though as to the going prices for 2002 Sentras. Can anyone share information with me?
  • magicmanejmagicmanej Member Posts: 3
    Greeting everyone...

    I just purchased a 2001 Sentra SE w/Performance Package and a Sunroof. The color is radium. I think I got a pretty good deal. Ended up paying $15,657, which is about $200 over invoice. This is my first new car so I am very excited! I have had the car for about a week now and all I can say is that I love it! I wanted to thank everyone who posts on this board since I basically read the entire message history before I bought the car. I was debating between the SE and the Protege and I must admit that the opinions stated here really helped me make my decision. Thanks again!

    --Eric
  • rupertmanrupertman Member Posts: 1
    Greetings, all! I have been enjoying the messages on this site; they have even helped influence my purchase, a 2001 Sentra SE w/AT -- ("Death to Clutch" is my well-earned nickname!) Anyway, I have had the car for 8K miles and have no complaints, except the stock Firehawk GTAs. To quote Mel Brooks, "they stink on ice!" These things have horrible grip, and they're aging faster than the Golden Girls. Any ideas out there for replacement tires that I can use throughout the year? (Keep in mind I'm from the Buffalo, N.Y. area, where it's 10 months of good skiing and two months of mediocre skiing -- or so the old gag goes). I would not mind putting 205-series tires on the 16-inch wheels. Anything from an all-season perspective that won't break the bank? I'm open to suggestions...
  • bobcatbobbobcatbob Member Posts: 187
    Pat yelled at me :-)....So, not wanting to be a Town Hall evictee, I will simply say that SE-R pricing is available at www.nissannews.com.

    Pat said I could include my thoughts on the pricing articles, so here goes...

    In short, the base SE-R is set at $15,999 and the Spec V will start at $16,999.

    The SE-R has a good base price, but when you start to add options like (A/T, ABS, Moonroof, and 6 disc changer -which requires the obnoxious audio fanatic package) the price climbs to just under $20,000.

    That is a lot of money for a Sentra. I am now wondering whether the extra 30HP over the Protege is worth the extra two grand.

    I mean, if the dealerships (In Baltimore, MD) are marking the base GXE's up $3,000, then what can they be expected to do with the SE-R?
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    Now, now... I neither yelled at you nor threatened to evict you! :-)

    I replied to you just now trying to explain how to post a link - do let me know if I can help any further.

    Pat
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    Sedans Message Board
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Member Posts: 6,249
    If it's 20k loaded up, that means it's gonna move for less than 19k and probably closer to 18+. Something to consider...if I can live with the interior, maybe it's the car to replace my 01 Jetta 1.8T.
  • bobcatbobbobcatbob Member Posts: 187
    Blue guy...

    Sure, it'll go down in price, but when? Carmax hasn't even begun to discount the Altima yet and most dealers around here respond to their pricing.

    I look at it this way, the WRX was way out of everyone's price range when it debuted,b ut this one ought to dominate the under 20K sport sedan market. And, the fact that they are opnly making 25,000 SE-R's a year doesn't help with supply.
  • bobcatbobbobcatbob Member Posts: 187
    Pat:

    Why, does invlice or TMV pricing not show when I go onto the 2002 Nissan pages?
  • kstephankstephan Member Posts: 41
    If you haven't seen it already, check out this month's Car and Driver. There's a comparison test between the Spec-V, Jetta 1.8T, Impreza 2.5 RS, Protege MP3, and Neon R/T. Nissan fans won't be too thrilled with the results: the Sentra finished fourth, with only the Neon rated lower. However, they admitted the Spec-V was an abused pre-production press car, which could have been a factor. C&D found the performance of the Spec-V to be top-notch--it was much faster on the road course than any of the others--but they didn't like the 6-speed gearbox, the torque steer, and the interior/exterior styling.

    BTW, the Protege won the comparison test, despite being way underpowered compared to the others. As a result, I'm sure there have been a few hundred "we're #1" posts in the Protege forum already. If you buy a Spec-V, be sure to wave to the Protege owners as you're passing them. ;-)
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Member Posts: 6,249
    In San Diego the Altima is already discounted openly at Mossy stores. Has been for a few weeks. The main competitor to Mossy always beats Mossy's prices. I expect the same of the "limited" production run of 25,000 SE-R's. They're Nissan's afterall.

    Oh, and BTW, I found an Irvine dealer selling WRX's for 1200 over invoice at launch. You just gotta look around for these things. Or live near large urban markets.
  • newcar31newcar31 Member Posts: 3,711
    I was waiting for the SE-R to come out before I bought my 01 Protege ES 2.0L. I wanted the Sentra bad....until I saw the interior. Hideous. Absolutely sickening. It looks like someone had tomato soup and barfed it all over the interior. The projected price and dealer markup didn't really phase me, the interior did. Now the next MP3.....hmmm...I've heard it will have more power, from something that "whistles" according to Sport Compact Car and Mazda engineers.
  • eddieaueddieau Member Posts: 4
    Does anyone know if the Rockford stero on the SE-R has a single disc CD or a six disc changer? I've order the Spec-V with the sports package and it does not say that it is a changer, but on first-drive reviews I saw that it comes with a changer.
  • bobcatbobbobcatbob Member Posts: 187
    Eddie:

    What price did you agree to with your order? What time frame did they give you? Also, what the heck is the sport package?

    The only options for the SE-r Spec V are the moonroof, the 6 -CD changer, ABS/SIAB, and Audio Fanatic.

    Both SE-R's come with the standard 180 watt single CD system. To get the changer you need to order the Rockford system. Combined they total $948.

    Finally, only the Spec V will have the hideous (IMHO) orange interior. The base SE-R will have something called "Midnight sport cloth." I haven't seen a photo of that yet.
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Member Posts: 6,249
    Is what the 2001 SE had too, I believe. Ugly, ugly boy-racer interior with little widgets of color in black fabric.
  • cydonianwolfecydonianwolfe Member Posts: 4
    Hi, all. I'm considering buying a 2001/2001 Nissan Sentra GXE. I found some with pretty good sticker prices here in Jacksonville, FL. I'd like to have some outside opinions in order to help make my decision.

    To all 2001/2002 Sentra owners: How's the car been treating you? Has it been reliable and would you recommend it?

    Thanks for any feedback!
  • eddieaueddieau Member Posts: 4
    I order my car last week and they say that it will arrive in november. The car is actually very cheap. The base spec-v model is priced at 21998, and if u add 2000 dollars they give u the rockford stero, moonroof, alarm with immobolizer, ABS. All the price mentioned above are in Canadian dollars. So, cars are generally a bit cheaper than those in US.
  • eddieaueddieau Member Posts: 4
    Does anyone knows if there is a lot of problems with the sentra sedans?
  • mdrivermdriver Member Posts: 385
    25,000 SE-Rs doesn't seem very limited to me. The Sentra in general is not a huge seller anyway, unlike the Civic. Like the new Altima, discounting will be under way after the initial week or two of hysteria.
  • kenjabikenjabi Member Posts: 76
    I've seen pictures of the seats on the Spec V in both yellow and red (or orange?). I wonder if it's supposed to match the exterior color? If so, then it might not be too bad on a silver, dark blue or black car. In any case I'll hold my opinion until I see one in person (nissannews.com says they should be available Oct. 16).

    The pricing of the Spec V has put it squarely in my price range. I'm still trying to decide between it and a used late model GSR or Prelude. I've been looking for the other two for almost 2 months now, and it's hard to find either one--or at least one that hasn't been modified or look like it's been driven through a war.
  • kstephankstephan Member Posts: 41
    >To all 2001/2002 Sentra owners: How's the car >been treating you? Has it been reliable and >would you recommend it?

    I have a 2001 SE. It's an extremely reliable car; I don't think you can go too wrong with the current Sentra. You may be aware that it has had two recalls, though: one for the detective front suspension bolts, and one for some problem with the standard steel wheels (doesn't affect the SE, which has alloys). Check to make sure these have been taken care of if you buy one. They're both problems involving parts from suppliers, so I don't think they inticate a fundamentally flawed design or anything.

    My only real criticism is I've found the interior plastics to be a bit on the buzzy side on rough roads, but I have the Performance Package, which has a firmer ride. A GXE might have less of a problem with this.

    Also, since the SE is being phased out for the SE-R, you might want to look out for a deal on one of those rather than a GXE. You get four-wheel discs, more standard equipment, more powerful engine, etc. A base SE and a loaded GXE can't be too far apart, price-wise.
  • cydonianwolfecydonianwolfe Member Posts: 4
    Thanks for the advice, kstephan!
  • magicmanejmagicmanej Member Posts: 3
    Since I am a novice when it comes to cars, I am probably asking all of you a very simple question, so please humor me...I recently bought a 2001 Sentra SE and I was wondering when I should change the oil? I've read that some change it at 1000 miles, others wait until around 3750 (as the owners manual suggests). Right now, I have about 750 miles, but I am planning to drive up to San Francisco from SoCal next weekend (Oct 19-21). So I will be at 1000 before my trip...should I change the oil before or wait till after? Also, I've been reading this board for quite some time and I am confused about when synthetic oil should be used. It sounds to me like synethetic oil is better for our cars, but I am not sure when it should start being used. Any advice would surely be appreciated.

    -EJ
  • magicmanejmagicmanej Member Posts: 3
    I forgot to mention that the trip to SF is about 700 miles roundtrip...
  • narenjinarenji Member Posts: 161
    I personally changed my oil around 2700 miles because I found out from the dealer that the car had been sitting on the lot for about 1 month before it got sold. If your car was only on the lot for like 2 weeks or something, then I would think that it would be pretty safe in doing the oil change when you get back from SF. If the car was sitting on the lot for a while, then it may be worthwhile to do an oil change relatively soon, but it may still be ok to go to SF and back. If you're at all concerned, just do an oil change for the peace of mind. Sorry if this post doesn't help you decide :(
  • cyranno99cyranno99 Member Posts: 419
    you'd probably don't have to change your oil, but you should check your oil level before you go on a long trip like that. As for synthetic oil, I'd say that if you are planning to keep your car for over 100k, then you might consider it. You might want to check the M&R board about this for more opinions.
  • newsentraownernewsentraowner Member Posts: 5
    Has anyone had trouble with their keyless entry system? It seems to take me several tries to get it work every time.
  • mdrivermdriver Member Posts: 385
    According to the EPA, the 2002 SE-R 5sp gets 24/29 mpg. The Spec V (6sp) gets 22/28. The non-Spec V mileage is decent for such a large engine, but the Spec V city mpg is no longer what I would call economical. In fact, the V6 5sp Altima gets 21mpg city. That's another 65HP in a much heavier car for a loss of 1mpg.
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Member Posts: 6,249
    Maybe i'm missing something...what is the big difference between 24/29 and 22/28? They're nearly identical. You're getting 175 HP, mumenchanz and 180 lbs.-ft of torque. This isn't some watered down anemic Honda engine with zero torque and RPMs that rival a motorcycle.
  • bobcatbobbobcatbob Member Posts: 187
    I jsut got a peak at the 2002 Sentra Brochure, which includes a few pages dvoted to the SE-R and Spec V.

    I like the car but what worries me is in the choice of one interior color for each model. The SE-R gets a "stone cloth" that looks realyl khaki colored. As mentioned before, the Spec V gets the "Lava cloth" that looks pretty bad.

    As far as the fuel discussion goes...There isn't too much of a difference, but for those who want killer fuel economy, power isn't a big deal. It is a trade off.
  • tomcat630tomcat630 Member Posts: 854
    Driving habits affect MPG alot, so a car taht is rated 2 mpg more could actaully get the same as a more powerful car. I.E. in trying to keep up with traffic, the less powerful car has its gas pedal stomped on more, thus more gas to use!
  • greenguygreenguy Member Posts: 78
    What other forums are out there besides www.freshalloy.com? which is fairly dead.
    thanks!
  • protegextwoprotegextwo Member Posts: 1,265
    What were the three top reasons for purchasing your current car? I'm assuming if your a regular in the Nissan Sentra Discussion you own a small sedan of some type. I'm interested in, what sold you on your current car!

    I'll go 1st. These were the qualities, I looked for when shopping.

    1.) Roomy Interior-
    2.) Value Pricing-
    3.) Attractive Styling-

    Thank you in advance!

    Repectfully,
    Larry
  • mdrivermdriver Member Posts: 385
    22 mpg is still low when an 5sp Altima gives you 240HP for a 1 mpg sacrifice. I suspect the 6sp trans is responsible since both SE-R and spec V engines are almost identical, certainly when driven under EPA fuel economy test run conditions.
  • brianj8120brianj8120 Member Posts: 3
    Im about to trade in my 2000 Chevrolet Malibu for a 2002 sentra se-r spec-v, my car is a V6 with 170 horsepower and its not bad, the spec V has 175. I want more fun so im goin for the 6spd, has anyone driven it yet, if so, tell me how much fun it was....
  • mdrivermdriver Member Posts: 385
    It only went on sale yesterday officially, so you may not see one at a dealer for a week or two. It would be nice if you could get ABS with a 5sp, but I'm not holding my breath. I was looking on and off throughout 2001 at an SE with 5sp and ABS and never found one. The brochure says it was available, but in reality it wasn't. Safety obviously comes in dead last on the list of priorities. I guess the thinking is: You want a 5sp because you can't afford the auto trans and thus can't afford the ABS either. Or, only younger buyers are attracted to the SE and they don't care about safety. Wrong in both cases.
  • cyranno99cyranno99 Member Posts: 419
    It seems to me that posters here would have a list like this:

    1. Bang for the buck
    2. Fuel economy
    3. Reliability

    Styling is subjective...
  • joemc3joemc3 Member Posts: 8
    Hi all the above is a 5spd, but the only option I could get is ABS and Side airbag.No sunroof available,unless I spend $1500.more for Spec V or Auto SE-r 2.5L 4A. Does dealer have both oars in the water?
    Should I buy a Gsr 2001 for $ 19500.00 Its's loaded? SER runs $18,787 and Spev V with sun roof and ABS $19000.00(no leather like GSR)
    Thanks buying a car is worse than going to the dentist.
  • kenjabikenjabi Member Posts: 76
    I think I'm in a very similar situation as you. I too am cross-shopping with a used (or new, if any are left) GSR and used Prelude. A couple things to consider about the SE-R:

    The Spec V with sunroof and ABS is more like 19.5K because you HAVE to get the improved stereo in order to get a sunroof on the Spec V. Keep in mind the SE-R's aren't even at dealers yet, and will probably be in limited quantity for the first month or so. So don't expect prices below MSRP at first. Also, I don't know what I think about those "lava" colored seats in the Spec V.

    HP is similar on Spec V & GSR, but the SE-Rs should have more low end torque. I'm not recommending anything until I test drive one though(I've already driven a GSR and liked it). I might suggest you do likewise.
  • joemc3joemc3 Member Posts: 8
    Thanks Ken,I'll wait to drive the SE-R. I own a 96 GS Integra now .Fun ride but, no low end torque.Love the Acura quality though.I don't know about Nissan's.I waited so long for the new Integ and the design turned me off.It really hurt as I planned on buying it as soon as it came out.
    Can't belive Nissan has a better design and the SE-R could compete with a GSR Integra.
  • joemc3joemc3 Member Posts: 8
    Nissan consumer affairs sent me an E-mail stating moonroofs or sunroofs are not available in Sentras.
  • redtrain65redtrain65 Member Posts: 24
    These were the qualities, I looked for when shopping.

    In Oct. of 1997 for me, I picked a new '98 Dodge neon Sport 2-door, loved the car, except mechanically it was crap, traded in 5/2000.
    1.) Decent looking Interior- (you look at that every day, Civic was too econo box, Escort ZXR radio/HAV controls UGLY, Sentra styling too plain. Like the new one.. except wheres the 2 door! They missed the boat for me with that!
    2.) Value Pricing-
    3.) Attractive Styling-
  • civic_cx_92civic_cx_92 Member Posts: 87
    Brand new 175 hp/180 lb.-ft torque 2.5 liter DOHC CVVT engine
    6-speed manual transmission
    helical limited-slip front differential
    special sport bucket seats
    titanium colored gauges
    leather steering wheels and shift knob
    sport-style front fascia with mesh grille
    large fog lights
    body-color lower body side spoilers
    rear spoiler (I personally don't like it)
    chrome exhaust tip
    firmer springs and shocks
    front strut tower brace
    17" wheels shod with 215/45R17 tires
    4-wheel disc brakes
    ABS option
    Side airbags option
    Nissan claim of 0-60 mph under 7 seconds

    2002 Sentra SE-R spec v, would you believe $17,539 including the $540 destination charge...that's the MSLP. TMV depends on the demand

    EPA gas milage
    2.5 5-sp M 24/29 mpg
    2.5 6-sp M 22/28 mpg
    87 octane...PREMIUM GAS NOT REQUIRED
    RSX-S and 2002 Golf GTI 1.8T requires Premium gas.
    http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/FEG2000.htm
  • southpaw2ksouthpaw2k Member Posts: 5
    Hey All,
    I have a '95 Sentra GXE and about once/3months, the dang thing will not want to start...Usually on a cooler morning.. Everything sounds fine except that it sounds like their is no Fuel getting thru. I have to keep it floored and finally enough trickles in to start it...Then it is fine for another 3 months. Nissan said there was a service notice of some sort on the fuel pump, and "adjusted" it. My mechanic says there is nothing wrong with fuel pump and that the computer codes read fine. Nissan says the only thing left it could be is the computer chip....

    anyone else have this prob??? If not, can you point me to the other Sentra message board??? I can't find it....

    thx

    Mark
  • cyranno99cyranno99 Member Posts: 419
    only in cooler morning, eh? Is it hard to start or just won't even start? If it is hard to start then it might be the gas that is used in the winter.....
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