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  • fritz1224fritz1224 Member Posts: 398
    When I bought my 2k accord, the dealer heavily pushed a 3rd party ext. warr.Got it, but later cancelled it. Just bought the hondacare ext. warr. 7yr/100k for 925. All the dealers can sell the honda one, but they don't make as much money off it. Called 3 dealers. Prices ranged from 1450 to 925 for the exact same plan. 0 deductible also. Shop around.
  • picenopiceno Member Posts: 55
    YES it is a problem. If the steering wheel "SHIMMIES"
    when braking at speeds greater than 30 MPH, the brake
    rotors (front) are uneven, or warped. I have a 2000 EX-V6,
    and my brake rotors had to be "machined" (cut) at 7200
    miles. This was done at NO COST by the dealer....but I was
    very unhappy, because I wanted NEW rotors installed.
    But guess what! The dealer said 'NO'!
    Honda is protected against brake rotor problems simply by
    Honda saying "BRAKE ROTORS are NOT under warranty"
    (see warranty manual). They will however, where possible,
    pay to have the dealer CUT the rotors.
    SHAME on YOU, HONDA!!

    Piceno
  • picenopiceno Member Posts: 55
  • carguy62carguy62 Member Posts: 545
    How could somebody buy a car without driving the exact car, not the one the dealer let you but the actual one you are buying? Absolutely crazy.
  • fxashunfxashun Member Posts: 747
    is done for most brake jobs. What's the problem?
  • picenopiceno Member Posts: 55
    The car only had 7500 miles on it! On my 1987
    Honda Accord I did not have to machine the rotors
    until way after 36,000 miles!
  • scottdudescottdude Member Posts: 177
    Are there any web sites run by and for Honda Accord owners? Preferably one that has a forum like this? I've run across such sites for Sentra, Toyota and even Hyundai Sante Fe owners, but have been unable to find one for Accord owners. Hard to believe some don't exist, considering their popularity.
  • arnolsarnols Member Posts: 7
    There are plenty of Honda sites with Accord boards: try those:


    http://www.purehonda.com


    http://www.honda-tech.com/


    http://www.hondabeat.com/


    Cheers,

    Arnols

  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    Only two things that will warp rotors...

    1. Inproperly torqued lug nuts.

    2. Hard driving!
  • patnamspatnams Member Posts: 9
    I am interested in finding theft numbers of Accords after 1998, the year key immobilizer was introduced.

    Can you please lead me to the info.

    Thanks
    sri
  • canadianclcanadiancl Member Posts: 1,078
    These stats will vary from city to city. Your local car insurance broker or underwriter would probably have some stats on that.
  • fxashunfxashun Member Posts: 747
    Should have been no problem if the brakes worked fine after you got your car back. That's what I was saying.
  • konwerekonwere Member Posts: 3
    A honda dealer wants $19900 for a 2000 Accord EX V6 with leather. The car has 12,000 miles. Is a good deal ? I offered $19000. Edmunds and Blue Book pricing are about $2000 apart! (trade-in, or retail.) Help!
  • raybearraybear Member Posts: 1,795
    If you really want the car, buy it. There aren't many available like that one. You can do a quick price check at http://www.nadaguides.com/ to make sure it's a fair retail value. Forget focusing on what the dealer paid for the car and worry about what you're going to pay. If you're financing you may want to consider new since the rate's so low.
  • chris194chris194 Member Posts: 6
    I have a '94 accord EX with 113000 miles. The car has been great and reliable, with minimal unexpected maintenance. I have had all of the suggested maintenence performed, use Mobil 1, honda filters and change the oil at about 3500- 4000 miles. I know, conservative, but I figure that it is a relatively low cost way to ensure long life. Only use Chevron gas. (no I don't work for them, it just seems to work best on all of my cars). For the past 10,000 miles, the mileage has dropped to about 20 city, 24 highway as opposed to about 24-25 city & about 26-32 highway. I just had the 120000 mile service performed early as the dealer suggested this would resolve the mileage concern. It did not affect it. Any other ideas? The car also seems to be a little less peppy than it used to be. Could it be the O2 sensor?
  • vickersnvickersn Member Posts: 2
    I'm looking at a new Accord coupe LX with the 4 cylinder and 5 speed transmission. I commute 110 miles a day and like the 32 mpg highway estimates. Does anyone have this comb? What's a decent price? The dealer says he can find one in a day or two, could I offer him invoice price? After all, it won't sit on the lot any longer than it takes me to go get it. Also, what about excess mileage? Anything over 100 miles seems pretty excessive.
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
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  • inkyinky Member Posts: 370
    Why does HOnda recommend this?
    How many of you stick with recommendation. This means Prestone regular and all others are out. The Silicate/Phosphate free stuff is the extended life 150,000 mile. Is that what should be used. Any just what is so bad about prestone and the others?
    You can bet any non Honda shop uses the regular stuff.
    INKY
  • bburton1bburton1 Member Posts: 395
    Never ever let anybody get near your honda front wheel lug nuts with an impact wrench. Even with torque sticks, you can end up with warped rotors. When I have to get new rubber-I take my snap-on click type torque wrench and tell the tire guys to use that set at 80 foot pounds and then I watch them to make certain they use the torque wrench.

    Somebody said, "Why are you concerned if you got your rotors ground at 7.5K". Real simple-thinner rotors mean less metal and a much greater chance at warping. If somebody says they must grind your rotors to true them up at every pad change-find another mechanic. Replacing rotors on a honda is an expensive proposition.
  • btorlvbtorlv Member Posts: 16
    I have a 5sp 2.3 exl. Between 70-75 aI get a slight noise that sounds like a rear wheel bearing..I have rotated the tires without a cure the road noise is not there before 72 and after 75.Its there in neruatal also. Any ideas? I really love the car 31mpg lots of power paid 21,226 out the door in l.a. this last feb with 3.9%.
  • ineto6ineto6 Member Posts: 161
    you shouldn't be driving at that speed then - ok, kiddind aside. You have that same noise while in neutral? Does the noise go away with a full load? Is it more of a noise than a vibration? We'd like more details.
  • raybearraybear Member Posts: 1,795
    It's a great car. Sure offer invoice, worst case is he turns you down.
  • bolivarbolivar Member Posts: 2,316
    I may be totally wrong, but my guess is a noise you hear ONLY in a 4MPH range (72-75) is not a bearing.

    More like some kind of harmonic vibration that hits only at that speed.

    I wouldn't worry much about it. Even if it is a bearing, keeping driving until it gets so much worse you don't have a problem identifying what and where it is.
  • bobgordonbobgordon Member Posts: 156
    New to this forum, have a 2001 Accord. Hopefully I can help others and get some useful help and tips myself. Has anyone found disc brake dust guards available???
    Thanks
  • auburn63auburn63 Member Posts: 1,162
    Welcome,
    Dust gaurds are available at most auto parts stores I believe, but are not suggested because they do not allow enough air to get to the rotors. This can cause the rotors to become easier to warp and/or run out which leads to vibrations while braking.
  • hbund216hbund216 Member Posts: 162
    I have a 5 speed with 4 cyl. This car is a loss leader and you should not pay above invoice. I payed a few hundred below invoice. I needed the car that day and that color and they knew it so if you're not in a hurry you should be able to pay less. Remember they always get a bit of the hold back if you pay invoice.
  • fxashunfxashun Member Posts: 747
    I would agree that it probably is a problem in the emmission system. I'd have it checked.
    bburton-If the rotors were fine until 7500 miles and no other problem was found in the system I wouldn't think Honda should be responsible for replacing them. Especially with all of the owner induced ways rotors can be warped. I agree that rotors should not be turned with every brake job. That's why I do my own.
  • bobgordonbobgordon Member Posts: 156
    Chris,
    Find out if the dealer put your vehicle on any kind of scanner. This checks the functions of the computer control devices. If your O2 sensor is bad, it would turn on the MIL, malfunction indicator lamp or check engine lamp. They are relativly cheap so replacing it might be an option if it's never been done. Since you said that the car is a little less peppy, considering the mileage you have, the catalytic converter might be starting to plug up. This can be checked by the dealer or an independent shop. Air cleaner OK? Find out what exactly the dealer did to address your concern. Hope this helps.
  • eppyeppy Member Posts: 10
    I'm thinking about getting an Accord Coupe as a second vehicle. I can't decide on what engine and if I go with the 2.3L I don't konw what tranny I'd get. I like 5 spd for the sportier feel, but I know the Accords have a pretty good Auto trans. How much back to the seat power would I get with the V6?

    Also, what kind of real world mileage do guys/gals get with the 4 and 6 cylinders?
  • getz1getz1 Member Posts: 63
    The feel between the V6 and I4 are pretty close when the I4 is matched with the MT with regards to off the line punch. Nod still goes to the six cylinder in a race to 60 mph with an average of 0.5 to 1 sec difference, assuming the person driving the stick really bears down on it. The I4 will get much better gas mileage, I think I average 24 to the gallon out of my six cylinder with fairly spirited mixed driving and you should expect much closer to 30 out of the four cylinder. The two major areas that you will notice a difference are in overall engine noise with the 6 cylinder extremely quiet at highway speeds, and perhaps the biggest difference at acceleration from higway speeds. Test drive them both, but when you hit the gas at speeds above say 65mph you get a fairly impressive response from the 200hp V6 which pulls hard well past 90mph, do the same with the I4 and it's fairly anti-climactic. If you are considering the 4 cylinder EX then I would definetly give the V6 LX a comparison, as I think the added oomph outweighs the shiny wheels and climate control. I like my EX V6 coupe, for which I paid $21,700, a figure that is not much higher than what the 4 cylinder EX sells for, and if possible try and swing it. All flavors of the accord are very satisfying, and the added smoothness and power of the V6 sold me on it. Some have complained of transmission problems with the V6, but I have had none in my 2000 model (now at 20k miles). Overall, Accords are extremely reliable, have great resale, drive very precisely if not a little blandly, and will serve you well for many years if you desire. If you have a fair amount to spend give the CL and TL S-types a glance, I somewhat regret not buying the CL-S (although I am convinced that it does not use the 260 hp six cylinder to its full potential). If you have any questions feel free to ask.
    Best of Luck,
    -Getz
  • seguyseguy Member Posts: 133
    I have 26K on my 4 door/4 cyl auto accord, with leather package and was wondering what real world trade in is? I owe $17500 right now(leased for 27 of 36 months so far). KBB and NADA are around 16500-17000. The car looks great in and out, kept a bra on it, and am very meticulous with detailing. The only cosmetic problems would be two 1/4" cuts in back bumper when the wife backed into a ladder, and some scuffing on the entry of the driver's doors. Otherwise it looks/smells new since that leather cleaner seems to bring back that new smell everytime. Went to a honda dealer and they offered 14,500, then came back with 15,000. Not what I was expecting at all. Now I'm thinking if selling it would be in my best interest. Does 17,500 seem too much for private party sell, willing to pay the approx 1,000 sales tax in my area. That way I can just negotiate the V6 accord which should lease for about $330 out the door I believe for 36 mos.
  • amz997amz997 Member Posts: 61
    I drove 381 mile and then filled 13.7g at $1.699/g
    I am still waiting to fill the second tank:-)
  • amz997amz997 Member Posts: 61
    I would not consider a LX!!!
    get a ex or v6 ex
    I paid 200 over invoice for an ex (20,400) last weekend and got the 3.9 financing

    v6 ex were going 200 below invoice. If you are in DC/Baltimore are let me know I can give you the dealers name.
  • teknogeek9teknogeek9 Member Posts: 12
    I have a '91 Accord, LX, 2.3L, AT with 76,000 miles at 50/50 highway/local driving. The car has been extremely reliable although I have to admit those scheduled maintenance services can be pretty pricey.
    I replaced the original tires at 42,000 with the same type of tire (Michelin X-one (185/70R14) and now at 76,000 miles need to replace them again. Although I never had an alignment done, I rotate my tires every other oil change or 6-7,000 miles. My question is...I thought tires are designed to last 70,000 miles. None of the tires are showing excessive wear although the tread just barely passes inpection. Is this considered premature? I am considering replacing the tires but I think I am due for some recourse from the tire manufacturer. Any experiences would be appreciated.
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Member Posts: 2,363
    You should be getting much more wear than that from X-Ones. First, the alignment should have been done when you switched at 42k miles; by all means, DO IT NOW, when you buy the next set of tires. Second, rotate the tires at 3-4k intervals. If you do that, you will see upwards of 60-70k miles from X-Ones.

    I sold a '98 LX 4 cyl with 17,000 miles to buy our new '01 EX V6. I rotate tires at 2500 miles, in less than 30 minutes using cheap floor jacks. The OEM MXV4s on our LX were less than 25% worn at 17k miles. When I hear of people having to abandon ship on these tires after 30k or less, the problem is simply that the suggested intervals for tire rotations are just too long for any front-drive car. Keep the alignment right [a good rule of thumb is every 30k miles for an alignment check, or more often if you live in pothole country], and rotate no later than 3500 miles.

    OR....just plan on replacing tires regularly...this can actually be an inexpensive solution if you don't like a lot of involvement in the process, and stick with reasonably inexpensive S- or T-rated replacements. Tire Rack has lots of choices if you want to go this way. There are decent Yokohomas and Dunlops that can be had for around $60 apiece plus shipping and mount/bal. Your choice...
  • mjb56mjb56 Member Posts: 170
    I've had my EX V-6 w/ leather about a week now. Still find it to be a very nice vehicle. However, I've noticed that the driver seat can be a bit uncomfortable after driving awhile. The side bolsters seem to dig into my thighs and also seem quite stiff. (I'm normally proportioned, 6'2", 190 lbs.) Does this break in after a while or are there alterations that can be made in some aftermarket fashion? Any feedback would be appreciated.
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Member Posts: 2,363
    I'm about 6' and 175, and believe these are some of the best seats in this class of car - certainly better than the Camry, which is woefully short on thigh support [bottom cushion just too short]. HOWEVER, I had to do a fair amount of fiddling with the power controls to get everything right, and then have to do it all over again every time someone else is in the driver's seat. [Memory would be nice, but unheard-of in this class.] My only suggestion is to experiment with front/back height combinations - you might be surprised how that can shift your weight subtly enough to make a difference. I have not noticed any particular problem with the bolsters, and I am not an especially slim guy through the butt, but everyone's different. Some softening up over time is probably inevitable, but I doubt the effect would be really significant. Another approach is to use a cushion on the bottom only, which will have the effect of boosting you up in relation to the bolsters. I have "reversed" common aftermarket cushions so that the part intended to be the seatback is actually what I sit on, and fold the rest under, or cut it off entirely. Hard to describe without pictures...
  • haodongmahaodongma Member Posts: 1
    I just brought a used 99 Honda Accord Coupe, it comes with 225/40/18 Dunlop performance tires, does anyone know how much tire pressure should be pumped into these tires. I know for stock tires, they should be kept in 29psi, but these are 18" low profile tires. Help.

    Thanks.
  • canoolacanoola Member Posts: 6
    I'm a new user, and I hate to jump in here with all you EX'ers, but can anyone enlighten me on the Special Value Package? It seems to be Honda's dirty little secret. Nowhere mentioned even on honda.com. Does it come with passenger-side airbags, as edmunds.com says?
  • baker16baker16 Member Posts: 45
    Here's some value package info for you:
    http://www.honda2001.com/models/accord_sedan/value.html
  • dwillia4dwillia4 Member Posts: 17
    I agree with hbund216. I purchased a 5speed EX about a month and a half ago for several hundred under invoice. There are two local Honda dealerships within 10 miles of my house. Both dealerships happen to have a lot of 5speed Accords in inventory. It's a great car!
  • surfing19surfing19 Member Posts: 46
    It sounds like your Honda owns you vs. you own your Honda. I hate when this happens. The dealership is right when you should get around 15k for your trade in. You should be able to sell it to a private party for 16k, but that can be a hassle, and you might not get offer what you want.

    To give you some insight, i had a 98 Accord EX 4cyld Auto w\leather, 42k miles on it, and i sold it back in Feb. for 15,600, I was pleased, because i owed less then that on it. I also put down about 1200 when i bought the car.

    Since you Lease that Car, i would just keep it for the next 9months and trade it in for the 2003 Accord, when it comes out next summer. I have never leased a car before so i am not sure if you are allowed to keep your lease car for a few months pass your lease end date on waiting for the 2003 model to come out next Aug.

    Good Luck.
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Member Posts: 2,363
    Those are mighty low-profile tires/wheels - watch out for curbs and potholes...pressures should be about the same as stock, but I would experiment a little both up and down in a range of 28-32psi cold and see how it feels. Much higher than 32 is going to take what already is a firmer ride and make it rock-hard. Much lower than 28 is going to make tires that already are going to wear twice as fast as stock, wear even faster.

    I am not a fan of going this large on this car - I would never put a wheel bigger than 17" on this chassis, but to each their own. Be prepared for very rapid tire wear.
  • eppyeppy Member Posts: 10
  • eppyeppy Member Posts: 10
    I'm set on an EX. I've never owned a vehicle with a sunroof *L*
    I also want the better sound system, the rims, and ABS

    THat mileage comes out to about 27 MPG, that's way bette than my Truck with 15 MPG
  • fxashunfxashun Member Posts: 747
    A 1999 EX-L with your mileage is about right.
    TMV on new ones isn't over $20000.
  • konwerekonwere Member Posts: 3
    Thee Accord VP is a very cheap excuse for a Honda Accord. No power windows, locks, or seats! Cheap interior components. V4 engine drives like a Geo Metro! The only good press is the A/C (now why should this be an "option" in any vehicle ???), and Casette/CD player (who uses a casette these days ???) I fell for the "affordable" hype until I drove one, and wow, it felt like a yugo going up a hill! Then I checked out a EX V6, and that was the end of my Value Package "dream".

    For about $2000/$3000 grand extra, get a used 2000/2001 EX V6, and enjoy a real Honda Accord!
  • ral2167ral2167 Member Posts: 791
    i tend to agree with foregoing the VP package-- as soon as i saw the manual window handles, and no cruise control-- i thought NO WAY.

    i doubt tho you can get a new 2001 EX V6 for just $2000 higher--- i'd say you can get an LX 4 cylinder for around 18000, and an LX 6 cylinder for around 20000 to 20500.

    Maybe you'd have a better go at buying a used 2000, if your budget is in the $16000 vicinity. But i gotta believe those VP package accords are going to have horrible resale value as well.
  • robertoroberto Member Posts: 1
    The VP does serve a real purpose. I sold my '91 2door Accord EX in hopes of purchasing a 2nd vehicle for myself - 2001 Civic LX. The civic felt too small but did fit my budget (one income and a family of 3 to provide for). A few hours before closing the deal, I came upon a VP and decided to drive it, no comparison. I did not drive the LX, EX, or one with a V6 because that was not an option for me. So, I do not know what I am missing---this works best for me.
    Does it accelerate poorly?, does it have "cheap" interior components?, are manual windows/door locks inferior?, how often would I really use cruise control?, did I want a new car or a used one?
    I have many dreams but believe me they do not involve driving a car that I cannot afford.
    So the VP met my needs and I am very happy with it. Do what works for you and your family.
  • Karen_SKaren_S Member Posts: 5,092
    ....but I'm here to announce the new Honda Accord Owners club now available on Edmunds.com Owner's Club board. Please stop by and introduce yourself in Meet the Members and let me know how I can help build your club.

    I have linked this discussion into that folder, but it will always reside here in .

    Looking forward to meeting everyone!

    KarenS
    Host
    Owner's Clubs
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