Older Honda Accords

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  • jeffrey15jeffrey15 Member Posts: 61
    I am thinking about buying an 4cy ex-l. My question is in regard to the keys. I have seen it posted here before that the car supports 4 keys and 2 transmitters. Is a key available for ex without the remote. IE will the key from a DX work? No sense buying a key with a transmitter if it won't work, I am sure they are much more expensive. Also does the valet key that comes wit the car count towards the four?

    Thanks
  • anonymouspostsanonymousposts Member Posts: 3,802
    The only key you can get for the 03-04 Accords without the remote is the valet key.
  • jeffrey15jeffrey15 Member Posts: 61
    According to http://www.hondacars.com/images/banners/2004/accord_sedan/accord_- sedan_factsheet.pdf the dx does not have keyless standard. In fact It appears that power locks aren't even on this model.
  • lelandhendrixlelandhendrix Member Posts: 240
    That is true. However, the DX does have coded keys like the rest of the Accord family.

    A key intended for a DX can be coded to work in your 2003/2004 Accord ignition.
  • nw1997nw1997 Member Posts: 227
    Htt,

        How have you been making out with the 87 octane?
  • htthtt Member Posts: 75
    I think my car is doing fine with 87 octane. I'm going to switch to 93 to see if it's any better.
  • nowakj66nowakj66 Member Posts: 709
    Mine does great on 87 octane. This Accord is so economical to purchase, fuel, insure, maintain - you have to ask yourself, for what reason (other than pride / ego) do you need something more?
  • thomaskliuthomaskliu Member Posts: 1
    My 2002 Accord's climate control, when set to FULL AUTO, only blows air from the front vents. Is this normal?

    Tom
  • emaleemale Member Posts: 1,380
    tom,

    depends upon what you are asking of the system. try adjusting the temp up and down to see if it automatically changes modes between dash and floor. if it NEVER changes...sounds like something's wrong with it.
  • apbangiapbangi Member Posts: 17
    Aside from the clutch-gas synchronization not driver-friendly (difficult to adjust for me, who changes shoes with varying sole thicknesses), the following reasons explain why I hate my 03Accord LX MT:

    (1) Miscuts on the floor coverings -- the interface/lining between the plastics on the (inside) body sides and the floor covering. This is awful (didn't notice it when I purchased the car).

    (2) Steering vibrates when braking to a stop, despite the tire rotation maintenance.

    (3) Those pesky little engine breaks at 4th (and even 5th) gear that makes driving not as smooth as the automatics.

    (4) Rotten-egg odor (total miles now: 21k)

    (5) "Hanging edge" of ceiling cover at the interface between the ceiling and the rear glass window -- it's cut rougly and not attached to anything! This car was manufactured in Ohio.

    (6) The ugly butt (especially in this Silver color)

    (7) When the air conditioning is ON and accelerating from 1st to 2nd or 2nd to 3rd, the engine seem to "choke" as I press the gas pedal -- accelerating like it's got a stuffy nose (horsey jerky with some hesitation -- slight but noticeable).

    (8) Just lately, some random rattle noise (not sure where they're coming from).

    This 03 Accord is a pain to drive. Think hard (and inspect/test drive thoroughly) before you decide to buy. I got a lemon.

    Disappointed -- ramida
  • bshelbshel Member Posts: 232
    have you had your dealership address some of these issues you are having with this car? How about another mechanic at a private garage?

    Some of these issues seem like a mechanic would take a look and make adjustments as necessary. (not #4 or6).

    Does the LX have ABS? If so, that is natural to have some vibration if you are braking hard. Nothing to be concerned about.
  • lelandhendrixlelandhendrix Member Posts: 240
    steering wheel vibration during braking is most likely due to rotor warping, which has already been addressed by Honda and is a warranty fix. Mine has stopped permanently.

    All the things you mentioned are things your service department should be happy to address.

    Have you done this?
  • dairyshickdairyshick Member Posts: 129
    Can anyone with a 2001 Accord EX tell me what color the guages are at night?....not necessarily a vital part of my decision to buy one that I found, but I'm just curious if they look good at night. It's a 2-door 4-cylinder w/leather interior if that matters. Thanks
  • sockpuppet1969sockpuppet1969 Member Posts: 308
    I have an '03 Accord EX-L with MT and find the transmission/engine combination to be an absolute joy. Unless there are some wild differences in the thickness of your shoe soles, one of two things is true... either there is something wrong with your car or you don't know how to drive stick. Do other people have the same problems you describe when they drive your car? Are you able to drive other manual transmission cars without a problem?
  • gregoryc1gregoryc1 Member Posts: 764
    While I do not have your problems with our 2003 Honda 4 cylinder Accord, if I had to purchase this vehicle again, I might look at other name plates. The body style has "blind spots" in the mirrors, and right front pillar that supports the roof and the windshield,(passanger side), can also be a "blind spot", (for the driver), when stopped at a "stop sign", looking for "on coming traffic". The "fit and finish" of our Accord is VERY GOOD, and the engine has plenty of power. Since we have an automatic transmission, I cannot comment on your trans / clutch problems. Prior to the purchasing the 2003 Accord we had a leased 2000 Accord. While I like the performance of the 2003, I like the body style of the 2000 much better! If I had to make this purchase again, I might look the Chevrolet, Ford, Toyota or Nissan lines of vehicles. Even after adjusting the three mirrors, I still do not like the "blind spots" that were created with this "new body style". The 2000 body style was a lot better in this area. We were planning to keep this vehicle for 7 years 100,000 miles, but I do not think that this will be the "reality" for this car. We will most likely trade this vehicle after three years for possibly a "Element" or another name plate vehicle. On our next purchase, I am going to looking VERY carefully at the "blind spot issue"! My wife has a 2004 Civic, and it is a pleasure to drive.
  • apbangiapbangi Member Posts: 17
    In response to some of your posts:

    (1) Yeah, I think I need to bring this car to the dealer for some adjustments. The steering vibration is getting worse.

    (2) To suckpuppet1969 -- you may be wrong (no problem with the car itself), but you may be right (I don't know how to drive stick!). If you don't mind, kindly describe your clutch-gas-pedal foot movements or techniques? As you press the clutch and change gear, how do you handle the gas pedal -- leave it where it is or relese a little? And how fast are these movements? And as you release the clutch, how long do you have to hold the clutch at the "contact point" (and how much pressure on the foot do you feel at this holding point)? For me, I have to hold the clutch at the contact point for longer than normal -- otherwise, I get that jumpy car tendency that affect the smoothness of the drive. Or I get a slight "thug-like" sound from the clutch and a bumpy acceleration if I release it too much and too soon. The clutch pressure on my foot as I hold it there at the contact point is causing me a lot of uneasiness. I've been driving sticks for 13 years now, and have not experienced the same problem (Dodge Colt, Toyota Camry).

    (3) I agree with that "blind spot issue", especially aggravated when the wife is sitting beside you on the passenger side. :-)

    thanks, ramida
  • pj23pj23 Member Posts: 158
    It sounds as though you need to give your dealer's service department a chance to remedy the material defects that your car has. And they especially need to look at your transmission/clutch. If you aren't satisfied with the answer you get, go to another dealer. I am very lucky with my dealer's service department, as they've always been very helpful and never tried to tell me "that's normal". But many aren't like that so don't be afraid to try another dealer.

    My '03 is a manual, and I don't experience any issue with the clutch engagement, unless I am being really sloppy with my technique. I certainly don't have to hold the clutch at any one point. Why not get this checked out? You are under warranty!

    As for the color and styling issue, I am confused as to why you bought a silver Accord if you don't like the color with the body style.

    There seems to be a consensus that the sulphur (rotten-egg) smell is being caused by the high-sulful fuel we have here and the Accord's new catalytic converter. The issue is not unique to the Accord and will be remedied by a change next year in the fuel composition mandated by regulation.

    Finally, I'll just say that no car is perfect and unfortunately you've had your share (or more) of problems with your Accord. However, it is reasonable to expect that a person having problems will do something to remedy them before dismissing the car because of them.

    Please let us know how your trip to the dealer turns out.
  • aggie1995aggie1995 Member Posts: 318
    Do yourself and us a favor and put a nice 5 line ad in the paper and be done with the car. I don't think that yuo will ever be happy with this vehicle. It isn't worth the energy to keep complaining about this car. Especially when you aren't taking it in to the dealer to look at the warrantable issues.

    And you should look up the Honda Accord Problems & Solutions Board to voice your complaints on.
  • dairyshickdairyshick Member Posts: 129
    The 2001 Accord MT I'm looking at is at 49,500 miles. Are there any services or maintenances that should have been done or will need to be done in the near future? (i.e. timing belt, transmission fluid....) Should I have the dealer take care of any services before I purchase it?
  • justinjustin Member Posts: 1,918
    why buy the car if you think it is ugly? how can one complain about buying an ugly car? i must be missing something, because the solution seems fairly obvious. if you don't like the car, don't buy it. if i didn't like a car, i would not buy it. neat concept :)
  • aggie1995aggie1995 Member Posts: 318
    The big ones are the 60,000 miles service which picks up the transmission fluid change and other things like air filters and then the timing belt at around 90,000 miles.

    60k service is mostly the following but the manual will tell you for sure.
    - Replace engine oil, filter and drain plug washer with Genuine Honda Parts.

    - Inspect and rotate tires.

    - Inspect wiper blades.

    - Check/adjust fluid levels.

    - Road test.

    - Replace air filter with Genuine Honda Parts.

    - Inspect belts, hoses, fuel lines and exhaust system.

    - Inspect front and rear brake assemblies.

    - Inspect steering system, suspension components, alignment and parking brake.
  • gregoryc1gregoryc1 Member Posts: 764
    Another issue with this vehicle,---- is the "one key cylinder" on only the "drivers door".--- How much money did Honda save by only installing one "key cylinder" on only one of the front doors? ----- I am wondering if a second cylinder handle can be installed on the passenger side front door? After looking at the driver's door handle, it seems that it should also fit on the passanger side front door, (by turning it over), providing that the internal parts are in that door to hook up with that handle???? ---- Had I noticed this, together with the other issues posted above,---- I might not have purchased this vehicle. The ride and the performance of the vehicle is GREAT, the "quality and the fit and finish are GREAT", but it is not a "comfortable vehicle" to operate.
  • richards38richards38 Member Posts: 606
    There seems to be little if any reason to have a door lock cylinder on the passenger side when the keyless entry is the way you're likely open the doors (one click for the driver's door and 2 clicks to open all 4 doors).

    The '04 Accord is the first car I've had with keyless entry and I think it's great. I don't see any need a second door lock. Why is that so important?

    The new Accord is one of the most pleasant and easy to live with cars I've ever had. Mine has the superb, 5 speed automatic transmission, but Honda manuals are said to be among the best and their clutches are among the easiest to modulate. If you're having a problem, take it in for service.....Richard
  • gregoryc1gregoryc1 Member Posts: 764
    Cars have always been produced with "a key cylinder" in the two front doors.---- I like the option of having the two cylinders.---- If the "keyless entry" does not operate, and one side of the vehicle is covered with ice, I have the option of using the key on the other side of the vehicle.---- I like options in life.--- It is like having a second "back up" bilge pump in the engine compartment of a boat. You may never need it, but if water starts to enter the hull, you have at least one, if not two pumps keeping you above water level. Life is all about having options at a given point in time, and getting what you want for the money that you are paying for the given product! ---- If I had noticed this when we were shopping for this vehicle, we might not have purchased this car. ---- If this idea is so "great",--(not a cost cutting idea),---- why didn't "Honda" list it as one of the advantages of the "New / Improved 2003 Honda Accord"? --- The truth is that Honda found a way to save a few dollars on one item.--- Another thing that I do not like about this vehicle, is that we could not get a power seat on the passanger side of vehicle without getting the V6 engine. ---- Why??? ---- What does the V6 engine have to do with a power seat for the passenger? --- If "Honda" does not want to put this option into production, they could make it available as a "kit" dealer installed option. I inquired, and I was told that it could not be done. --- Honda is manufacturing vehicles to meet "customer needs" so as such, we should not alter our wants and desires to fit ideas of the Honda designers and engineers.
  • talon95talon95 Member Posts: 1,110
    Since we haven't seen a lot of complaints about the items that you complain about, has it occurred to you that you may not be the poster boy for the needs of Accord buyers? They can't please everyone, so they have to go with something like the 90% rule. People like you whose comfort zones seem to have higher than average requirements may not fit into the majority.

    Obviously, the V6, being the "top line" engine, has one thing in common with a power passenger seat... both are higher end "luxury" options for a mainstream sedan like the Accord. And as such they tend to be packaged together. Is this right? Well, automakers have used convenience and luxury features and packages as an incentive for buyers to trade up to higher priced models and brands for many years, so Honda hardly invented the idea.

    And how many "options" must one have before you realize that, in some cases, wanting options ends up just being a rationalization to obsess? I've been driving for more years than I care to reveal in the snowbelt, and never ONCE have I been forced by ice buildup on the driver's door to use the passenger door. And I'm on my third car with keyless remote and never once has the system failed to operate. One can be quite imaginative about worst case scenarios that such an equipment change would exacerbate, but the probability of such a combination of events is hardly high enough to be of great concern. At least for me, and I would hazard to guess, most people.

    Perhaps eliminating the passenger door lock isn't a great step forward for the Accord, but given what it offers for the price and given the very small likelihood of the problem that you fear for which such an equipment change would be problematic, I for one am not going to lambast Honda for making such a change. If you elect to do so, that's your choice.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,698
    I too live in the snow belt.

    I have had the left hand side of the car iced up by freezing rain. However the remote did work; I did not need the key and the right hand cylinder to open the right.

    OTOH: I have had the remote fail. Battery died.
    But I agree the odds of an ice storm freezing up the left lock or door AND the remote's not working are infinitesimally small.

    The need for a power seat in a 4 cyl. version is a valid option. Honda developed its image on economical but useable automobiles. It's now preening the Accord as a medium size replacement for some competitors for older clients. The 4 cyl. should offer a full power package of seats.
    --just my opinion, Keith.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • pj23pj23 Member Posts: 158
    Ice can always be chipped away. Snow can be dug out. Not having a key cylinder in the passenger side door is not on the same level as the danger faced if your bilge pump fails and you're taking on water in the middle of the ocean, lake, river, etc.

    The Accord is not the only car to not have a key cylinder in the front passenger door. Maybe this is a vast conspiracy, I don't know. Maybe this is the same as not having a power door lock button on the passenger door, which some Japanese manufacturers have done on and off for years. Maybe four-door cars should have lock cylinders in all four doors. That would seem to be ideal. Why don't we ever see that?

    I've got to agree with talon on this one, in that the Accord isn't the car for you, based on the issues you have with it. People have posted here on the wider A-pillars - I find that this is not an issue if you move your head slightly. I do not find my vision to be compromised by the A-pillar, and I feel much better knowing that the structure of the vehicle is that much stronger because of the beefier A-pillars. That gives me the option of increased safety in an accident.

    Regarding the mirrors and blind spots, I paid close attention to my blind spots this morning, and found that there really aren't any. I have my mirrors adjusted as has been discussed here before and as is advocated by Click and Clack. With these mirror settings, along with glances left or right (as are prudent under any conditions), I have had no trouble with blind spots. But that is my experience.

    It seems, from recent posts, that people are not doing a very good job of investigating and considering their Accord purchases. You cannot fault Honda because you bought a car of their's that doesn't meet your requirements.

    And I've got to ask because I can't stand it anymore, why all of the quotes? I don't understand the emphasis you are giving to the quoted words.
  • alpha01alpha01 Member Posts: 4,747
    I live in the Northeast, and own a Nissan with a key cylinder on the drivers door only, and keyless entry. Its funny that I'm reading about this issue on this forum, because I just realized, about 3 weeks ago, that there is no key cylinder on the passenger side. Mind you, Ive had the car over a year, and have just hit 22,500 miles. It is a complete non-issue, in my opinion, and those among us who take such objection to this highly minor omission, I feel, should be thankful that this is the most they have to complain about.

    ~alpha
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,698
    Using the logic that if a car should have a lock cylinder on both sides of the car, driver and passenger, therefore it should have a lock on each of all four doors does not work.
    That would be two locks on each side of the car, unnecessary.
    OTH, having one lock on each side is nice when when the door is frozen to the car with ice. Chipping it away and pulling at the door, possibly tearing the rubber seals, is not a good solution.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • gregoryc1gregoryc1 Member Posts: 764
    Thank you for the support!
  • gregoryc1gregoryc1 Member Posts: 764
    What makes you think that your opinion is part of the 90% rule? --- Maybe my opinion is part of the 90% "Silent Majority" that does not post on this board!---- Yes, maybe I do not like the changes on the 2003 Accord over the 2000 Accord that I previously had under lease, but also, maybe there are some basic design issues that need to be looked at again for future vehicles by the HONDA ENGINEERS and DESIGNERS. I like the "quality" of the Honda Vehicles and their performance, and up to this point, I did not have any issues with the other Honda vehicles that we had, 1997 Accord, the 2000 Accord, the 2000 Civic and the 2004 Civic, (my wife's vehicle). But, the 2003 Accord is a much different body style from the 2000 Accord, and there are some basic differences. If a second "key cylinder" is not an issue to you that is "ok" with me. If the "blind spots" on this vehicle are not an issue with you, that is also "ok", but that does not mean that other people should not voice their opinion with regards to this vehicle. Maybe I will trade this vehicle in at 2006 for another Honda Vehicle, or maybe I will keep it for the seven years / 100,000 miles. Yes, ---- life is very short, and I want ALL the "creature comforts",--- after all my wife and I are making the monthly payments. If I decide to trade the vehicle in 2006, I will be very careful to take the vehicle on an extensive test drive to be sure that the visibility is excellent. If it does not meet my standards then I might look at another Honda body style or another name plate. If we as consumers do not communicate our feelings to the maufacturer, how are they going to know what we want in future vehicles? I will bet that Honda monitors boards like this all over the net!
  • talon95talon95 Member Posts: 1,110
    Almost everyone seems to agree that the worst case scenario presented to support the criticism of Honda's decision to omit the passenger side lock is so unlikely as to be a non-issue. So it seems that Honda is being criticized for the sake of criticizing them.

    As for the power seats question, Honda hasn't abandoned the inexpensive mid-sized market, as shown by the continued availability of the DX. It's not clear from the postings on this topic if the expectations are that Honda would offer a power passenger seat on all models (perhaps except for the DX) or just if Honda offered at least one 4-cyl Accord (probably the EX) with a full power seat option. The latter I would agree with.

    From my perspective, though, I think Honda's biggest failing regarding the power passenger seat is that the one they make available has such limited functionality. It has only the same adjustments as the manual seat, just powered, and omits such really useful adjustments such as seat height and bottom cushion tilt. So frankly, I wouldn't much miss the power passenger seat in my EX V6, since it lacks the adjustments that make the power driver's seat so useful.
  • cgeorgecgeorge Member Posts: 5
    Hi,

    We bought 04 Honda Accord EX V6 last Saturday.
    I wonder which maintenance schedule to follow. Based on the manual description, mine falls in normal condition, but the dealer recommended severe condition because of our city driving condition. Which schedule do you follow and why?
    Thank you.
  • figelwumpfigelwump Member Posts: 34
    Hi all,

    I'm considering 7th gen accord, specifically EXV6 w/nav. Trying to decide between getting a new 2004 model, or trying to find a used 2003 model.

    Question: what are the differences between these 2 models? Is it just the integrated XM radio? Any other enhancements, build quality improvements, etc?

    Thanks
  • venus537venus537 Member Posts: 1,443
    the dealer recommends severe conditions. now THERE'S a surprise. i recommend following the manual.
  • mikeysoftmikeysoft Member Posts: 63
    Severe is 1/2 the miles of normal. The dealer will get twice the $$ for severe. Follow the manual.
     
    My dealer had a sign in the service department recomending 3750 for all Hondas. The sign did not say severe or V6. I pointed out that this is severe for the V6 but the 4 cyl severe is 5000 and my driving is normal so it should be 10000.
     
    They later change the sign to 3750 for V6 & 5000 for 4 cyl. I change my own oil around 7000, 3000 miles or 30% early.
  • whitecloud1whitecloud1 Member Posts: 268
    I first encountered the "one key lock" for the car on a 2002 VW Golf I rented. I at first thought it was odd but before long I forgot about it. I thought of many not likely to occur scenarios where this could be a problem. Contrary to the thought of cost being the reason, I think it may be more of a security issue. I think we will see more car entry systems like this in the future and we might as well get used to it. For years I resisted power windows because there was no manual override.
  • mikecmikec Member Posts: 40
    Figel,
    I have a 2003 EX-L V6 with Navi
    My buddy has the same car, but 2004.

    The only major difference is XM.

    Surprising, the squeaks and rattles issues were not fixed in 2004; he reported the same issue I had (fyi, I've been able to get them all fixed, just took some time).

    Performance/mechanical wise, they are the same. We had had a few small issues, but nothing major.

    So, the question is whether you really want XM for the price diffential.
  • nowakj66nowakj66 Member Posts: 709
    I have a 2004 EX-L Sedan and it has some squeaks along the center console, where a front passenger's left leg would be. But these are only there on cool mornings. Once the car heats up, it is fine and the squeaks dissapear.

    I figure disparate materials heat up and expand at different rates. I guess I consider this "normal".

    Those with squeaks - do they go away once the cabin heats up?
  • justinjustin Member Posts: 1,918
    my 03 is tight as a drum, built in 8/03, so obviously well into the 2003 build cycle at the factory. no noises other than the stereo or the 240 horsies above 4500 rpms or so...
  • inspectoringinspectoring Member Posts: 102
    anyone any experience with this? I read some discussions about leather here on the board but since 4 cyl with cloth has no leather I figured someone will be kind enough to help.

    I have no idea about cleaning the interior - I was at the local Target and they had wet/dry auto vaccume - would that help?

    Any pointers on how to clean the plastic (high quality - atleast thats what the salesman told me) dashboard or the door panels?

    Thanks a lot guys..
  • figelwumpfigelwump Member Posts: 34
    thanks mikec, justin. hmmm... wonder if the integrated XM radio is worth it? might be kind of unwieldy to get a separate XM module, with the cassette player adaptor and all that... on the other hand, i would gain the flexibility of using the separate module with a home adaptor.

    anybody have experience with setting up the standalone XM receivers?
  • lelandhendrixlelandhendrix Member Posts: 240
    For spots and fabric cleaning, I have found nothing better than the Oxi-Clean wipes that come in individual packets. I keep a few in my center console and they have instantly gotten out EVERYTHING I've used them on.

    On the squeaking issue, I had a few odd sounds when I got my 03 Sedan, but now at 14K they are all gone. Feels good that all the parts have settled in.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,698
    Isn't that just bicarbonate of soda? Try some baking soda on a paper towel or washcloth. Lots cheaper!!!

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • emaleemale Member Posts: 1,380
    nowakj56,

    on my '03 accord coupe...i was getting a screaching sound from the center console around the gear shift lever. local stealership put some insulation underneith black piece around tranny selector and that noise has disappeared. however, i have occasional pops/snaps/rattles that seem to come from around the headliner or up by the front of the dash, not exactly sure where. on occasion the glove box door also rattles.

    but, my rattles seem to increase when it warms up...go figure! anyway, i have been surprised with the number of little irritating things i've had with this car (my first so-called foreign car btw) that i know for sure i won't keep it after the lease is up...
  • sockpuppet1969sockpuppet1969 Member Posts: 308
    I just installed Sirius satellite radio in my 2003 Accord. I must admit that I was a little disappointed when I learned that satellite radio was made standard on some of the 2004 Accords (I have the EX-L).

    The unit I chose was the Audiovox Jam Pack Tuner. It is portable, which is kind of nice because I can take it into my house and listen to it there also. I can also see all the station/artist/title information at the same time as the navigation screen. The car kit has a built in FM modulator so I don't have to worry about the cassette adapter.

    I installed it in the cubby space below the navigation screen. This in great because I can close the door when I leave the car and hide it from view.

    I chose Sirius over XM for several reasons...

    1. I can listen to all Sirius content over the internet from my office (or any other broadband internet connection) without the receiver.

    2. Sports content (NFL, NHL, NBA)

    3. NPR

    We drive from NC to NY fairly often and this will be great for the drive. It is also kind of neat that my wife can stay in the back seat with the baby and control the satellite radio using the remote control.

    I have to admit it would be nice to be able to control the satellite radio from the steering wheel controls but I think the portability of the aftermarket system makes this compromise worth it.

    Hope this helps.
  • figelwumpfigelwump Member Posts: 34
    sockpuppet1969, thanks for sharing that. couple of questions: Do you find it to be a distraction/annoyance to try to change channels on the receiver?

    Also, how is the sound quality? Seems that using FM modulation would compromise the CD-quality sound (part of the benefit of satellite radio is that it does need to be converted to an analog signal!)
  • sockpuppet1969sockpuppet1969 Member Posts: 308
    I do not know how good the functionality of the Honda XM unit is. In other words, I do not know if you can scan through all the XM channels while listening to another one continuously. I also do not know if you can view the navigation map and XM channel/artist/song info at the same time. I do like having a dedicated screen for the satellite radio information.

    I do not find the act of reaching down to change channels on the receiver a distraction/annoyance. What I do find distracting is the ability to scan through 60 music and 40 talk channels. I have to constantly remind myself to keep my eyes on the road and I really try to tune the radio only when the car is stopped.

    I am not an audiophile but I can say that the sound quality is pretty good with the FM modulator. It is as good as a clear FM broadcast. No static. No doubt someone who really cares about a crystal clear signal would be better off with a direct line in, which is an option with the aftermarket system - you just have to locate the appropriate adaptor.

    Overall I am thrilled with the Sirius satellite radio. It only cost $150 including the home kit. Also, don't underestimate the value of being able to bring the satellite radio into your house without having to pay an additional monthly fee and having to buy another receiver. Also, having the music programming available anywhere I have broadband internet access is awesome! (I am listening to it right now in my office.)
  • dust90dust90 Member Posts: 169
    One plus for the factory XM radio is the steering wheel controls. I can scan the preset stations on both XM bands with the steering wheel controls, or switch to regular radio or CD without taking my hands from the wheel.
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