Older Honda Accords

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  • pmarvinpmarvin Member Posts: 25
    Reply to Glinda49, I just bought a new '01 Accord LX (5-speed) for $16999 plus tax. A new LX auto should be less than $18k plus tax. The DX should be thousands less, but I must have cruise control and air conditioning on my car, therefore the LX. Yes, you can pick up a '98 or '99 for a few thousand less, but with Accords holding their value like they do, I wouldn't consider one when for only a couple or three thousand dollars more, I get a new car with a new car warranty and I know how it's been maintained from the beginning. Remember, this is MY opinion, and you know what they say about opinions!!
  • glinda49glinda49 Member Posts: 15
    I appreciate the info. that I have gotten regarding the used Accord. My parents will make the decision in the end but I want them to be armed with as much knowledge as they can possibly have when they begin to actually test drive the vehicles they are interested in. Thank you once again.
  • mbt1mbt1 Member Posts: 33
    When will the 2003 Accord coupe most likely debut? Are pictures of it available on the net, and if not, what's the earliest time that they will become available?
  • drv4fundrv4fun Member Posts: 16
    I have a 98 4cyl lx accord (58k miles) and after I had it serviced (60k miles service) at the dealership, on my way home, I saw white smoke coming off the exhaust. It eventually went away. 2 weeks later, the check engine light goes on and the dealer ended changing the catalytic converter and charged me for the install. Has anyone seen this problem before? I hope my engine is ok!
  • gandrogandro Member Posts: 3
    My 97 Accord has 68K and I need to replace my second set of tires (Michelin MXV4 plus).
    I have never been happy with the MXV4s. After 5K or so, they become noisy. And they don't seem to last very long either. My first set only lasted 28K. I have heard alot of good things about the Michelin X-one and the Goodyear Aquatread III. But not every tire performs the same on all cars.
    I would like to hear from owners who replaced their energy MXV4 stock tires on their Accords with either Aquatread IIIs or X-ones. Did you notice any difference in performance, treadwear, noise and ride? I would appreciate any opinions. Thanks
  • alpha01alpha01 Member Posts: 4,747
    Try Pirelli P400s in the appropriate size. I put them on my 94 Civic (aww, I miss that car.. it was the only one I've owned so far.. I'm 20...anyways) and they made a HUGE difference in handling and grip, esp in the rain.
    ~alpha
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Member Posts: 2,363
    Try X-Ones, or MX4s [an especially good one for the rain]. If wear is a problem, stay away from anything from Goodyear. Yokohama Avids are good, as well, and Dunlops.

    Pirelli persists in using a lot of nylon in their carcasses and treads, and thus flat-spotting and vibrations are always a risk with them, if you are sensitive to this stuff, as I am.
  • carguy62carguy62 Member Posts: 545
    The '03 won't debut for another year or so. Do you mean the '02? Middle of September is typical.
  • black01coupev6black01coupev6 Member Posts: 195
    I'm surprised to hear that the Michelin tires only lasted 28k. I had them on my 99 EX sedan and I sold it at 38k and the tires still had plenty of tread left on them and they weren't that noisy.
  • ravynravyn Member Posts: 101
    kumho ecsta supra 712's. (for summer/spring tires)-have them and love them.. about $72/tire from tirerack..

    or dunlop sp sport 5000's for all seasons. those were my other choice, heard pretty good things about them too. about $93/tire from tirerack..
  • l943973l943973 Member Posts: 197
    From my readings, the Honda Accord is made in Marysville Ohio and also in Saitama Japan. Are Accords made in Japan shipped to the US? I know the US models get shipped to Japan.

    I'm just curious because each Plant probably has their own level of build quality. Does anyone have an Accord built from Japan? The 11th digit of your VIN number will be a "C" instead of "A".
  • carguy62carguy62 Member Posts: 545
    Thought they started with a J. I have an older Accord that was made in Japan. There is a website where you can decipher the VIN. I think mine was made in Saitama. And yes they do ship a few Japanese Accords here. Look in the maintenance and repair forum under Accord quality issues for further discussion.
  • canadianclcanadiancl Member Posts: 1,078
    I'm no mechanic but from what I know white smoke is OK. Now it you're getting blue or black smoke, then you have a problem, or 2. The check engine light coming on probably has nothing to do with the white smoke.
  • raybearraybear Member Posts: 1,795
    Could be a head gasket.
  • astrolastrol Member Posts: 312
    A hard driver and braker can make the best tire wear out prematurely but I can't imagine anyone wearing out a set of Michelin MXV4+'s in 28K. Jeesh!

    As to the white smoke--- I would say it was something connected to the 60K service, most likely a throttle body cleaning. You would have to look at the paperwork to see what they did.
    On the other hand, if the smoke had been continuous and fairly thick, then yes, the head gasket would be the prime culprit.

    In the absence of any evidence to the contrary, the catalytic converter replacement was probably a coincidence. The chemicals used on throttle-fuel system flushes are not harmful to converters.
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Member Posts: 2,363
    We have had this discussion until the cows come home, then sent them out again. To briefly summarize my opinion, from sources quoted within the Honda corporation, there is a uniform quality audit system that is in place for all Honda final assembly plants worldwide. Here, we see cars from Japan, Canada, Ohio, apparently Mexico, and soon Swindon, UK, and the new Alabama plant. There are no statistically significant differences in the quality grades at any of these disparate sources. Period. You can bring the campfire tales and anecdotal evidence to the table all day and all night, but it simply doesn't wash. Moreover, there have been years [these numbers always go up and down based on a lot of variables] when the US plants of Honda, Toyota, and Nissan have all outscored their Japanese counterparts for quality audit scores.

    For most models and option choices, you are not going to have much say about where your car comes from...all the Civic hatches, when they reappear next year, are going to come from the UK. The redesigned CRV will come from both Swindon and Japan. The Odyssey will be either Canadian or Alabamian, depending on when you buy it. The SUV [based on the Acura MDX] will be strictly from Cambridge, Ontario....and so forth and so on. Each plant does NOT "have its own level of build quality"...there is only one acceptable corporate standard. That doesn't mean every car will be perfect, but it does mean the benchmark is not a variable.
  • black01coupev6black01coupev6 Member Posts: 195
    Depends on what area you are in east489.
  • east489east489 Member Posts: 8
    We are on the marker for a new car. Have had Toys and Honda's before, However this time around we want a new Accord. Looking for a good dealer in the Michigan area. We live in Livonia, distance is not an issue. All info would be appreciated. Any one care to share costs on a Ex 4cy,and the LxV6.
    Many thanks
    East
  • baker16baker16 Member Posts: 45
    I bought my 2000 LX-V6 (back in April 2000) from Howard Cooper Honda in Ann Arbor. I paid $100 over invoice with zero hassles. They also have a very good service department (based on hearsay ... haven't needed service yet).
  • mirthmirth Member Posts: 1,212
    The Sunshine Honda dealer in Plymouth was ok. The dealer we negotiated the lease with was kind of weasely, but the deal was ok. The service department is slow but dependable (I highly recommend NOT waiting around for repairs or oil changes. Drop it off.)
  • jc77jc77 Member Posts: 14
    i just got an response email from a dealer quoting $17878 for a new accord lx with auto trans. this is invoice price, but do you think that at this time i could get it below invoice?
  • raybearraybear Member Posts: 1,795
    You may find one below invoice, but how much is your time and effort worth?
  • geoshillgeoshill Member Posts: 27
    I have a Y2K V6 with about 12k miles on it. The speedometer reads high for some reason. When I'm traveling on the freeway with the pack it says 80mph. Obviously we are all not going 80 mph. The dealer says the condition will correct itself with aging. It is 2 years old now. How long do I have to wait for the correct speed reading?
  • michellek2michellek2 Member Posts: 1
    I'm about ready to buy a new Accord within the next few weeks and have a question about demos. My gut feel is to stay away from demos but want to know if any of you have any comments? Thanks!
  • fxashunfxashun Member Posts: 747
    Reads about 10% too high. It's been that way since the redesign. Go figure.
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Member Posts: 2,363
    We answered this thoroughly in the Accord Problems Forum. I'm not going to repeat it here. Suffice to say there is nothing wrong with you speedometer or odometer that Honda has any intention of addressing, so you'll have to get used to it.
  • evandroevandro Member Posts: 1,108
    "Suffice to say there is nothing wrong with you speedometer or odometer that Honda has any intention of addressing, so you'll have to get used to it."

    I was thinking about getting an Accord because of its reputation, but after lurking in this group for a while, I think that the difference between Honda and GM cars is in the owners minds... :^/
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Member Posts: 2,363
    If you really believe that there is no substantive difference between GM's current car offerings and Honda's, then of course you should spend your money where you think it will give you the most value. I've no regrets selecting our Accord EX V6 over its GM counterparts [and I've tried most of them], and a 7% speedometer pad is not going to change my mind.

    I'm not sure which part of the reputation you are referring to; no part of Honda's reputation has it that they are perfect. In the things that matter to most car owners, they are very often less imperfect than any other manufacturer out there, and that's enough for me.
  • drv4fundrv4fun Member Posts: 16
    canadiancl, raybear and astrol - thanx for the responses. After I took it back to the dealer(I don't think they really did anything), I have not seen any smoke from the exhaust. I think it is ok now!
  • jc77jc77 Member Posts: 14
    i just bought a 2001 silver accord lx with auto trans for $17,800 and i got free floormats. i went to one dealer, whom i did not buy from, and his dealership offered paint and fabric protection, a $600 cost. i thought this was another markup cost. anyone else run into similar costs? he also said silver could fetch a higher price than i wanted. he didn't get my business to say the least.
  • lateraluslateralus Member Posts: 13
    To: carguy62, can you tell me the website that one can decipher their VIN please?? Also my 2000 EX-V6 VIN starts with a "1" and the 11th digit is an "A", also the window sticker says "Final assembly point: Marysville, OH. Country of origin--Engine: USA , Transmission: Japan.
    and-- Foreign parts content: 25% Japan"
    This suits me fine, but it would still be cool to have a machine built in the western Pacific... just to be different.
  • ral2167ral2167 Member Posts: 791
    here's a site to decipher VIN numbers


    http://www.autoinsurancetips.com/vin.htm

  • evandroevandro Member Posts: 1,108
    I've turned many dealers down because of those "features" they insist pushing. That's just unnegotiable to me.

    Besides, EACH AND EVERY car has the fabric protected with ScotchGuard by the manufacturer and I doubt that they protect the paint better than the couple of original transparent coatings...

    IOW, a rip off!
  • evandroevandro Member Posts: 1,108
    I just came back from a test drive of an Accord EX V6. Was I impressed! The V6 instills some real life in the car!

    However, I was told a lie by the salesman (shock!): the V6 is only available on the EX... I was pretty sure that it was available on the LX too, which I confirmed when I got home and studied the brochure. :^/

    Now, I don't care about passenger's power seat, sunroof, etc, that are standard on the EX. Am I missing something that's a must have in the EX that would make the mark up worth from an LX?

    TIA
  • elgritonelgriton Member Posts: 67
    I have a '93 Accord SE, and I need a new batter ASAP. Any suggestions of what brands and types are best suited for my particular car? Do OEM brand batteries have any better reliabilities than other brands such as Die Hard or Interstate? Thanks much.
  • har1bushhar1bush Member Posts: 207
    the EX has leather seats and steering wheel, power passenger seat, moonroof, homelink remote, automatic climate control, 6 disc CD changer, auto off headlights, lumbar support for front seats, steering wheel mounted controls, cargo net, electronic remote trunk release, and an alarm system with remote entry.

    I think the extra goodies in the EX justifies the higher price over the LX since just leather seats and moonroof on most cars will cost you at least two to three grands.
  • ezaircon4jcezaircon4jc Member Posts: 793
    Had a Civic a few years ago with same problem. I was told then that 10% is WAY above acceptable norms. Just think, if the speedo is 10% fast, so is your odometer! That is HUGE considering the warranty and lease mileages. Your warranty will end 10% sooner! They replaced the speedo on that Civic under warranty. This is also a "fraud" issue. Why would thay want you to think you were going 10% faster or 10% farther? Your MPG will also appear to be 10% better. That sure looks good to the Feds for their CAFE requirements. I would DEFINITELY make them change that speedo!
  • auburn63auburn63 Member Posts: 1,162
    They do not operate as one so if one is off it doesn't make the other one off. 10% is acceptable on the speedo and I think the spec on the Odo is 3-5%. The Odometers are usally within 1% but I have noticed most speedometers are on the high side as read by the guage but on the money when read through the computer.Don't know why but it may come in handy when you think your speeding but your really not..
  • jc77jc77 Member Posts: 14
    i'm looking to get an alarm on my car. any suggestions or warnings? opinions on the viper 100?
  • raybearraybear Member Posts: 1,795
    I'd shy away from them. You lose the time and mileage from the warranty and deals on new Accords are so good it's hard to justify several thousand miles on the clock.
  • venanzikvenanzik Member Posts: 72
    Has anyone (should say how many)have had problems with rust on their cars. I have a 92 accord which I think is a great car, but a few years back both rear quarter pannels began to rust. I notice this on alot of cars around that year. My car isnt garaged but it is washed alot and waxed at least twice a year. I live in Pa so we do get hit with snow which brings on the road salt..yuck.
  • chocobochocobo Member Posts: 1
    Can anyone recommend a Honda dealer in New Jersey, preferably around Somerset? I'll buy an Accord Ex in one week.
  • auburn63auburn63 Member Posts: 1,162
    My garage kept 92 4 dr doesn't have a bit of rust on it @ 75,000 miles but my other 92 2 dr(290,000) that isn't garage kept, has rust spots on both the rear 1/4's right near the wheel housings.
  • scooter64scooter64 Member Posts: 21
    A great Honda dealer in NJ is Rt.23 Honda in Pompton Plains (I think that's the town). They had my car ready, detailed and with plates, yes license plates!, the day after I picked it out. They actually take care of all the DMV stuff right there. They also have an awesome service center with very knowledgeable service people. All sales guys are top notch and didn't give me any B.S. sales pitches. They don't advertise - they go on reputation - really!
    Try them out and you'll be pleasantly surprised!
  • scooter64scooter64 Member Posts: 21
    Has anyone used a Draw-Tite sport hitch (receiver type) on their Accord (mine is a '99 LX 5-speed)?
    The Draw-Tite hitch bolts to the tow hook underneath the rear bumper and also to the bottom of the spare tire well. 2 holes were drilled in the spare tire well to accomodate the bolts. I am concerned that this is not a great setup and have seen better devices used on other sedans, which are bolted to the "frame" of the car on either side. Is it possible the tow hook can break with this type of unit?
  • baker16baker16 Member Posts: 45
    I installed a Reese hitch on mine but both the Reese and the Draw-Tite use the same setup - the primary connection is the tow hook. If you keep your tongue weight below 100lbs and total trailer weight below 1000lbs (per Honda) I think you'll be fine.
  • jarednoahjarednoah Member Posts: 20
    what exactly is the color "taupe" when it comes to foor mats. Just consulting for a friend of mine because she is planning on buying floormats for her ivory interior.
  • jarednoahjarednoah Member Posts: 20
    and what would be best color of floormats for a beige leather interior of a 2001 accord? appreciate if anyone can help. my friend is killing me for lack of idea on my part.
  • mbc1263mbc1263 Member Posts: 4
    I just traded in my 92 Accord (131K) for an '01 LX. It too was rusting on the rear panels behind the wheels (both sides). I have noticed many other Accords with the same problem, even some of the newer ones (mid-90s). I hope they've done something to improve this.

    By the way, the speedometer and odometer in the '01 were right on the money in a quick test the other day on the highway.
  • scooter64scooter64 Member Posts: 21
    Thanks Baker16! That puts my mind at ease a bit, knowing that Reese also has the same setup. I saw a Reese on a Mazda 626 which has a much bigger bar that mounts to either side of the undercarriage. I figured they would make something similar for the Honda.
    Have you seen the version from Hidden Hitch? I wonder if they make anything different.
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