Older Honda Accords

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  • robertsmxrobertsmx Member Posts: 5,525
    True. A colleague of mine is disgusted at her latest Chrysler (2001 Caravan) and the way the service department is handling the transmission problem (not sure what it is this time, but she had a story going this morning). And this is when the vehicle is still under 36K mile warranty, the service department is trying to charge for repairs.

    BTW, this is her third Chrysler minivan in about a decade, and the previous two had terrible record. She got the latest hoping for some magic, and that she would have paid way more for Odyssey (that two of my colleagues drive) to get the features she wanted. She, and her husband seem to have decided to quit visiting Chrysler dealerships now.

    ***
    1998 Accord EX/63200 miles (ZERO problem count)
    2000 Civic EX/13400 miles (ZERO problem count)
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    I presume the climate control in your Accord is the same as in my Odyssey. The impression I get is that the AC is always on unless you specifically press the AC button to turn it off. I don't recall ever having an indicator show AC On, only AC Off. Hitting the auto button in the Ody automatically lets the system do whatever it wants in order to maintain the temp requested which includes running the AC.

    I currently have the AC turned off and it kicks in automatically when I press the defog button or use the mode button to direct air to the windshield. Hope this helps.
  • carguy62carguy62 Member Posts: 545
    A guy at work just bought (well actually a couple of months ago before the 0% financing) a Chrysler T&C minivan. I think it topped out at close to $30K. Try as I might I could not convince him to go for the Odyssey. I'll try and contain myself as (I'm sure) I hear about his future problems.

    My ex was a domestic car fan....she currently drives a Stratus....I told her not to call me when she's stranded. LOL.

    ***
    1989 Accord LX-i H/B 153000+ miles
    2001 Accord EX V6 (unfortunately the ex took her dislike of imports out on this baby and it is now in the auto graveyard).
    Soon: '02 Civic EX or '02 CR-V EX.
  • briken9briken9 Member Posts: 8
    Sounds the same. That's my impression as well - deafault setting for AC is 'on' to provide better defogging. Manual pretty much says that too. Thats fine but I wish there was a way to have it deafult to 'off' and and only come on when I explicitly want it to. Generally speaking, I do not always want to run the A/C -for economy purposes or because its just not foggy. So when I turn on the heat, the AC kicks on automatically, I turn the AC off, and wonder if the repetitive on/off is going to do any harm. Thanks
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    You would have bought a CHRYSLER !! ??

    Now, THAT is one funny post!!

    Let me tell you about the 95 Intrepid that we bought new and dumped at 32,000 miles some time!

    ROTFL !!
  • bcloutierbcloutier Member Posts: 5
    Had a 96' Plymouth Breeze dumped at 60,000 miles transmission well on the way to gone.
  • steve05401steve05401 Member Posts: 50
    i have an '01 (!) Accord LX sedan with 9800 miles on it-- bought new-- and it's going to have the driver's side window regulator replaced in a couple days! disappointing in a Honda....

    and silly me even specifically sought out an Accord manufactured in Japan (VIN starts with a "J"), hoping that perhaps that might minimize the likelihood of any problems.

    also-- the steering wheel has a weird sort of "flexing" back and forth to it, and now the wheel itself is rubbing/brushing against the column below it when making full turns at low speeds. bet a million bucks the dealer's not going to acknowledge the problem....

    my third Honda in a row, and i think maybe my last.
  • canoe2canoe2 Member Posts: 128
    Would anyone know if 2002 Accord V6 use Timing belt or chain ?
    My impression from the brochure is timing belt used in Accord.
    Thanks
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Member Posts: 5,525
    2002 Accord uses timing belt. That will change in 2003 though as new Honda engines (DOHC iVTECs) have timing chains.
  • canoe2canoe2 Member Posts: 128
    Thanks Robertsm.
    In that case, any 2002 and older models require to change timing belts every
    65K miles.
  • fxashunfxashun Member Posts: 747
    On newer Hondas.
  • auburn63auburn63 Member Posts: 1,162
    I thought they increased it to 105,000 since like 98 for normal conditions and for ocassional extreme conditions..
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Member Posts: 5,525
    They did. I've a '98, but to be on the safe side, I plan to change them with the next scheduled service (67500 mile).
  • thornthorn Member Posts: 91
    December Car and Driver.


    http://www.forbes.com/2001/11/30/1203flint.html

  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    From 1997 on, it's 105,000 miles. No need to "play it safe" by replacing it earlier.
  • fxashunfxashun Member Posts: 747
    it's "recommended" at over 100,000 is a little overkill.
  • canadianclcanadiancl Member Posts: 1,078
    And I don't know if going strictly by the mileage is all that accurate. Obviously if the type of driving you do involves alot of idling and slow traffic, then the timing belt will need replacing much earlier.
  • soberssobers Member Posts: 496
    But 70 or even 80 is unnecessary.....

    When 105 is recommended under normal driving I guess 90K would be educated guess about replacing it earlier to be safe !! :-)

    Ofcourse.....Do whatever you want...it is YOUR money !!! :-)))
  • dtownfbdtownfb Member Posts: 2,918
    Replace at the interval in the manual which is 105,000 miles. If the timing belt goes before that, Honda will have to stand behind it and fix the damage. Make sure you have all of your receipts for work done on the car. Why spend $500 now when you don't have to? Or more importantly when you don't NEED to?

    If you do change it now, are you going to change the timing belt again at 130,000 miles???? Just follow what's in the manual. Honda would tell you to change the belt at 105,000 miles if it was designed to only go 60,000 miles.

    Good luck.
  • jfavourjfavour Member Posts: 105
    I recently had my timing belt replaced on my 95 Integra and the dealership also recommended replacing the water pump as it was easier to access at that time. This was all part of the "routine" 90k service for the car. I did it at 85k as my brakes needed some work at the time. I don't think the belt change or water pump was necessary yet, but it seemed reasonable to group all of this work together. It was expensive, but I haven't had any other problems with the car and its runs perfect, almost like new still.

    I now also have a 2000 Accord with 32k and will probably wait until at least 90k before I do the belt on it, unless I need some other work done around that time.
  • dtownfbdtownfb Member Posts: 2,918
    All that you said in your post makes perfect sense.
  • hcar2hcar2 Member Posts: 5
    Just came back from a local Honda dealer in west county of St. Louis after having got ripped off $71.24 to reset the "Maintenance Reqd" light in my Honda 2001 Accord. I bought my second Honda after having no problems with my first Honda. However, I didn't realize that Honda dealers have become "greedy" now-a-days, charging premium prices on several models, doing service that is unnecessary and ripping off their customers like me to reset a simple switch!

    I would check not only the vehicle but also the associated dealer network for honesty, integrity, and customer service before selecting a particular vehicle. I was leaning towards buying third Honda vehicle (Acura) before this incident happened. Now, I would definitely go to competitor brands like Lexus or Infiniti.

    Has anyone faced the similar situation with their dealer?
  • bolivarbolivar Member Posts: 2,316
    You lost $71+ because you didn't read the manual.

    It tells how to reset the 'Maint Reqd' light.

    I'm really, really having to restrain myself from typing in what I actually think about you.
  • canadianclcanadiancl Member Posts: 1,078
  • fxashunfxashun Member Posts: 747
    But that was kinda pitiful to get ripped off on something like that when we discuss it on here at least twice a month it seems.
  • kliukliu Member Posts: 10
    Well I just read an article at motortrend and the Evo VII is coming at the end of 2002. The Evo VII is going to be under $30,000 and with minimal changes from its original form, so they speak. ...my accord is going to be smoked...not that I use it to race anyway...=)
  • mirthmirth Member Posts: 1,212
    You guys are right - that dealer was right to prey on the customer's ignorance. If only we had more dealers like that.
  • ravynravyn Member Posts: 101
    yes, he should have read the manual, or done a search on here, but it isn't right AT ALL for a dealer to do that. it takes 2 seconds to tell a person how do it, or where to look in the manual, and it makes you wonder what else the dealer is doing to rip off customers. are you sure YOUR dealer isn't doing a similar sort of thing?
  • dfwk2500dfwk2500 Member Posts: 68
    I suspect the dealer did the 7500 mile service on the car for the $71. Whether the car needed the service (other than the light indicating it did) or not may be the question. If it had been 7500 miles since the last service and oil change, the dealer probably did some good by replacing the oil and most likely for $71 rotating the tires. If you haven't read the owners manual on your car its probably good that your dealer looks out for you.
  • cyranno99cyranno99 Member Posts: 419
    I think that's a good idea for some people who don't pay attention to when their cars need a tune-up. The car manual does show how you can easily turn off the light without a mechanic's help. Perhaps, the dealer should have told the buyer when he first got the car. I remember that my Acura dealer did.... the manager even gave some tips about turning off the VSA for more fun :)
  • barbell2barbell2 Member Posts: 1
    I have been quoted a price of $23,205 on a '02 EX V6 from showcase Honda in Phoenix. Is he in the ballpark? This is about $90 over invoice.
  • claywaterfillclaywaterfill Member Posts: 534
    If that's about $90 over invoice, then that should be a pretty good deal for you.
  • claywaterfillclaywaterfill Member Posts: 534
    I see Accord picked up its 16th Car & Driver 10Best award. Not too shabby. I also noticed 3 Honda products were nominated for inclusion--and all 3 made it! Toyota had only 1 nominee (Camry) and it did not make it. Even Hyundai/Kia had 3 nomimees! I find it strange that they picked Ford Focus for inclusion over cars like Civic (not nominated) and Protege, though. Oh well.
  • dtownfbdtownfb Member Posts: 2,918
    Reember the 10 best is for the best driving cars in their segment. quite honestly the Focus is a better driving car then the Civic. it handles and rides better. Reliability is a different thing.
  • carguy62carguy62 Member Posts: 545
    I have driven both a Focus and a Civic and IMO the Civic drives much better. Opinions....everyone has got them. Some people need to clarify that it is their opinion they are stating.
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    I should have suggested that you (and anyone else interested) drop by Edmunds.com's Used Power Shopper either to list a used vehicle or to look for one available in your area.

    Good luck.

    Pat
    Host
    Sedans Message Board
  • truckdude1truckdude1 Member Posts: 88
    What kind of luck would we get with a 1998 or newe Honda Accord for 10,000? Im sure they all have high mileage, but we need to get a car for our Son an daughter and are only looking at Camry and accord? should a Honda Accord EX or LX oR DX with automatic still run great with 90,000 or more we only like the newer still and OUR MAX money to offer is 10,000 how relible are they
    thanks-
  • raybearraybear Member Posts: 1,795
    Get an older one with less mileage.
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Member Posts: 5,525
    One of their policies is to not choose more than two cars from the same brand. For Honda, Accord (15th time) and S2000 took the honor.
  • diploiddiploid Member Posts: 2,286
    Even those would probably cost more than $10,000. Honda cars generally have higher than average resale values, and as a result, their used cars can sometimes be more expensive.

    We went shopping for a used Honda a few years back. There was a 1998 Accord LX demo version and a used 1997 Accord EX that costed about the same price. Guess which one was chosen...
  • canadianclcanadiancl Member Posts: 1,078
  • diploiddiploid Member Posts: 2,286
    Edmunds has a little story on the history of the Accord on the home page. Don't know why they singled out this car, but it's a nice reading.
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    I've put a link to this just published article in the Additional Resources box on the left sidebar of this page. The Accord debuted as a two-door hatchback in 1976 - the four-door sedan was introduced in 1979, Check it out!

    This is one in a series of articles on Edmunds.com in a new category "Generations" under Reviews. You can check out other histories here.

    Pat
    Host
    Sedans Message Board
  • ickesickes Member Posts: 82
    The ten best list is not about the best driving car. If that were the case, the Passat would have beat out the Accord. I think in '98 they explained that the 10-best are the best all-around cars throughout their model range. Thus, the Accord DX through EX-V6 is compared with the competition over a wide range of factors including space, performance, cost, etc.

    As for two cars per brand, Honda must have used the Acura label as a loophole.

    Also, I still don't have my subscription copy of the magazine, or Automobile, and Road&Track. They were all on the rack at the grocery store last night. Really Ts me off!
  • claywaterfillclaywaterfill Member Posts: 534
    Not to be picky, but on page 71 of the January 2002 C&D, it states that the Accord picked up it's 16th honor (more than any other automobile). Also, I was counting the Acura RSX as the third Honda product on the list.
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Member Posts: 5,525
    Is sold as an Acura, so it is a different brand.
  • sstechsstech Member Posts: 5
    This is unfair to rip off $71.24 off a customer for resetting a simple "Maintenance Reqd" switch.

    It is unfair to do unnecesary oil change when the previous oil change was done about two weeks ago.

    It is unfair to do unauthorized repairs without the knowledge of the customer and demanding payment.

    It is unfair that the customer relations folks at HONDA headquarters not bother about this type of incidents.

    It is unfair for the HONDA brand name if such type of RIP OFFs continue!
  • diploiddiploid Member Posts: 2,286
    I usually get a coupon in the mail for a $20 oil change at my Honda dealer...that let's me know when I'm due for my next oil change (they also place a sticker onto the windshield).

    I don't know what kind of Honda dealers you're visiting.
  • cyranno99cyranno99 Member Posts: 419
    Yeah.. so unfair that there are competitions out there for Honda.... life is just so unfair!
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Member Posts: 5,525
    To some people it doesn't matter who they are visiting. There are enough places where anybody can charge anybody for removing a piece of straw from the palm, as long as the person carrying it didn't know how and/or when to.
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