Older Honda Accords

diploid · December 2001

http://www.mag-x.com/scoop/accord0112/index.html

This one looks similar to the other pic we've seen, although, for some reason, it doesn't look as sleek.

frag235 · December 2001

Very nice, but I doubt the US version will look like this - too bad.

sobers · December 2001

I also looked at Passat & did like the 1.8T version but dealer wasn't ready to deal. He was talking $500 off of MSRP which was atleast $3500 more than what I paid for my Accord 4cyl. Otherwise I would have gone the passat way. Now after 16,000 miles on my Accord I am JUST AMAZED how this thing is holding up...There is hardly any wear on this car except floor mats(dirt). I wax it every 3 months iwth Zymol & it looks like I bought yesterday! This made me think about buying a used Accord instead of getting the same model (98-2002) & save a bunch of money. Good EX V6 with 10-20K miles are available with some pain & in my opinion the BEST value on the market in midsize sedan category.

I like the new Altima also..but back in 2000 I did not have much choice than the Accord & I am enjoying it to the fullest extent.

claywaterfill · December 2001

The 0% may be nationwide? I was at a Honda dealer in metro Atlanta today and was told the 0% was on through the end of the month.

crzycarguy16 · December 2001

So it seems like there's basically no argument against the accord, just that it's kind of bland styling and the Passat has a bit more status. But while i've heard excellent things about the honda V6 in the Accord, I certainly can't go for it when I can get the new Altima with a stick. Is Honda planning on putting a five-speed, or maybe even a six-speed gearbox, on the V6 Accord in the comming years? I've heard the next Acura CL will have one. Let's all pray.

isellhondas · December 2001

I have driven literally hundreds of 4 cyl Accords and have sold many hundreds more.

Your comments about the transmission shifting...??

I don't have the FOGGIEST idea what you are talking about!

tigerjon1 · December 2001

Does anyone know how to contact a complaint dept. or preferably somewhere higher up the ladder by e-mail or mail?

ickes · December 2001

A note at the end of the referenced Mag-X link notes that the same body will be used world wide on the Accord, suggesting that the photos shown are representative of what we may see. Also encouraging is the performance bent of the redesign. It appears that Honda will meet the challenges presented by the Passat and Altima head on. Of coure, seeing this concept all the way to the end would reqiure a V-6 manual...

www.mag-x.com/scoop/accord0112/index.html

frag235 · December 2001

I've got a 2000 Accord and I don't know what she's talking about either...maybe she got a "Monday morning" car - LOL

-Gerald

postoak · December 2001

is talking about. But it is well known that Honda transmissions shift in a sportier fashion than those of Toyota. Also that the ride quality is harsher.

mmx6 - I'm puzzled as to why you didn't notice any of this on your repeated test drives. But, anyhow, I think you're stuck.

heisnstein · December 2001

It looks like we have three different versions out on what the '03 Accord will look like. Two of these two versions, seen on vtec.net,(www.vtec.net/news/items/906 and 936.html, respectively) lean a good bit on the current design, especially in using a fairly "notchy" rear deck design. The third version (www.europeanhonda.demon.nl/2003accord_news.htm) uses a more flowing rear deck design similar to the new Audi/VW generation. I have no idea which way Honda will go, but I hope they go for something that presents a newer direction than the designs suggested by the versions seen on vtec.net.

nofeer · December 2001

looking to buy a 96 dx accord 4dr auto
can you add cruise control, either by honda or other after market? Cost? what do you think of doing this, getting a great deal, 28k miles ("grandma's car") for my son $6500

thanks

tgozdalski · December 2001

I am the owner of 00 accord lx 5 speed that is 26 months old and has 63,000 miles on odometer. Overall good ownership experience. I just came back from 4,000 miles trip to California and the car did very well. At average speed about 90 miles per hour fuel consumption was 28.5 m.p.g.
So far I only did regular oil changes, synthetic oil every 6,000 miles, and I also changed transmission fluid. This week I will have cooling fluid replaced. Changed original Michelin tires do Yokohama YK 420 205/60/15 at 56,000 miles. I am satisfied with the new tires but I would rate them about the same as Michelin. At $62 per tire Yokohama are much cheaper then Michelin. I also had front brakes done by local Precision Tune franchise at 58,000 miles and they did a very bad job. This week I will have them look at the brakes under warranty. The brakes are very noisy, brake pedal pulsates under harder braking. In my opinion the brakes is one area where Honda could improve quite a bit. The brake feel is good, talking about original brakes, but stopping distance is long. Even the new Acura RSX has long stopping distance. I am thinking about replacing my other car, 98 escort, with 2003 Accord.
Tom

mujhc · December 2001

Please help me as other consumers with what I can and should do about this situation. Now i'm fighting as any car buyer against a dealer's scam. It has nothing to do with Honda car itself, after all I bought this car because I liked this car. Now here's exactly what happened. I went to the dealer on 12/22 since they were advertising 02 Accord EXV6 coupe for 23,205 and that's 300 dollars cheaper than the competitors in chicago area(at least as advertised on paper or internet.) I got spoiler, chrome exhuast tips(which were already installed) and ordered fog lights
and wood grain trim on console, door and audio panel and we agreed upon $24,436 + TTL -5000 cash downpayment @19% for 60 months, which comes to 559$ a month. Yes, it's very high interest rate because I have a spotty credit, but partly I'm doing this to improve my credit and also planning to pay it off within 2 yrs. So principal was more important than the loan interest rate. I went to the dealer on 12/27 to pick up my car and asked for extended warranty. The finance guy showed me many options and told me how much it would add to my monthly payment. He said I would only pay 10$ more if and when I purchase 6yrs/100k miles platinum warranty with no deduction (it's not Honda care, it's Fidelity warranty), 10 yrs paint protection, window etching, credit insurance and GAP coverage. I was really glad that I could get all these for mere 10$ extra a month. So I agreed to purchase all those and he left me in the office and came back a few minutes later and told me "You even don't have to pay 10$ more since I lowered your rate to 18%." He gave me about 10 copies to sign here and there and I waited about 2 hrs for them to put fog lights and audio panel wood trim (the trim on the console and doors haven't been put in yet since they were not in stock) and picked up the car and drove back home. The next day I went through the contracts (by the way I definitely know this was my fault that I didn't read the contracts before I signed on them) and found out GAP coverage was 495$ and credit insurance was 786$. And I realized I really wouldn't need those since I was planning to pay off in a couple of yrs. So I wondered if I could get woodgrain steering wheel instead and called the finace guy at the dealer and that's when I started realizing I was ripped off. He told me over the phone "You'd better not cancel those because that's how you got 7.59% rate." I said "what?" and now I was reading the contract really carefully and yes the contract says 7.59% for 60 months(he never mentioned it at the office, he specifically told me it would be 18% so it wouldn't add anything to my original estimated monthly payment figure.) But the car price was jacked up by exactly 2,950$. So I said "Ok I'm really happy I got the lower rate but why is the car price almost 3000$ more expensive than original agreement?" And he said "Oh, nothing's wrong, don't worry, OK?" I hung up the phone so that I could calculate everything correctly. And the contract indicates Cash price 27386(again original deal was 24436), less down payment 5000, credit insurance 786, gap coverage 495, fidelity warranty 1495, doc fee, license, sales tax and the total comes to 27687. And I just couldn't find what jacked up the car price by 2950. I called him up again and said, "there must have been some sort of mistake" and he said "No there's no mistake," So I asked him if he could go over the contract and he said "oh, this is a bad time, why don't you come in tomorrow I explained everything to you." I realized at that point there's nothing I could do with him over the phone, So I hung up. Now I called the Honda Headquarter and explained exactly what happened and had it documented. The representative told me to go talk to the dealer since it seems they're willing to work with me. So I told them I would notify them with result after I'd have visited the dealer. I didn't have time to visit the dealer over the weekend so I went there today, 12/31. The finance guy said extended warraty is actually 2800, not 1495 as it was indicated on the contract, so that extra 1300, paint protection for 1290, and the etching for 360 were added into the car price. So I told him "I don't want all these extra if it adds that much to car principal so please cancel all these except etching that was already done and give me 19% interest rate." And he said "No I can't do that, the deal already went through, What you can do is to cancel the Gap coverage and Credit insurance and extended warranty in a couple of months then you can still keep the lower rate." So I said "But what was the extra 1300 for extended warranty?" And he said that was 4yrs/48k miles maintenece plan, which, by the way, was never discussed or indicated to me before. I asked him to put that 1300 into the warranty price, not the car price which he refused to do. (At least that way when I cancel it I can get prorated refund) I asked him to cancel the paint protection plan which was not performed on the car yet and he said he couldn't do it since he already ordered it. (Also it should have never added into the car price. It should have been calculated seperately) Now I realized there was nothing I could do with him at this point and came back home. I called the Honda headquarter to update the process but they were closed for holiday. I called Fidelity warraty to get exact price but they were closed as well. So now I have to wait till 1/2/02 to act further. I called the dealer again and said "Please cancel all the extra and gave me the original deal" and he said "hey you were here for about 2 hrs on the day you picked up the car. Is there anything I could do to make you happy? did you have spoiler on the car already?" I said I would call the Honda headquater to report all this and he asked me "for what?" I said "have them document everything." He told me to come to the dealer on next friday or saturday so that he can give me all the documentation. I guess he was playing naive as if he didn't understand what I meant by having Honda document the situation.
Now this is what has happened so far. I'm very upset with myself that I didn't check the contracts before I signed. Only if I had done that I wouldn't have gone through all these hassle and unpleasant exprience especially in the holiday time. I'm not trying to nullify the deal, but I'm not going to be a victim of sneaky dealership. I think I have a case because they add 1300 into car price for maintenance which was never discussed and also it should have been added into extra warranty price or seperate added item, not into the car price under any circumstance. They refused to cancel the paint protection plan which hasn't performed on the car yet and the cost of it shouldn't have been added into the car price either.
I really need an advice from someone who is familiar with this kind of situation regarding what my options are. If the dealer won't correct any wrongdoing with further discussio

hjr2 · December 2001

from thc.org:Just read the June 2001 issue of Motor Trend. Well guess what, they had a road test and compared the Chrysler Sebring Sedan, Honda Accord EX-V6, and the Hyundai XG300.
Can you believe it, Hyundai finished in 1st place. They said the ride was nice, standard equipment is very good, and they said A LOT more but I can't type it now. But I am amazed. I don't recall anytime that Hyundai has beat Honda. Could this make people see the NEW Hyundai and how much they have matured? Also, in the Sonata forum; you can read a post by BIG W, who posted that the Sonata GLS V6 GLS ,pkg 13 ,also got first place. I hear a lot of ppl critize how if we want to roll with the big boys Hyundia has to be a big boy.. I guess now is a time to laugh in there face!

from ww.t-h-c.org;general discussions,xg300/350.seems for every one slam, Hyundai gets a Wham..slam a home -run!

silvercoupe · December 2001

mujhc: You need to learn to read contracts before you sign them. You may not have any way out at this point. My advice would be to consult with a lawyer.

hjr2: Don't believe everything that you read.

diploid · December 2001

Did thc.org provide a link or any proof of that claim?

I don't know whose bubble is going to get bursted...

aparnet2 · December 2001

A brand new 2002 Accord EX 4cyl: two types of sound when I step on the gas padel after stopping at a traffic light or a stop sign ( a complete stop). Behind the normal sound of the engine, I can hear a high-pitched soft sound. As I push down the gas padel, the sound becomes even higher-piched with the increase of the speed. After the car reaches the designated speed,say 30 or 40 m/hr and I release the padel, the frequency of the sound then decreases with the action of releasing the padel. Finally, the sound then gradually dissappear (probably it is still there, I could not hear it any more becuase the other sound of the engine, which I call a normal one, is loud enough.) If I keep driving at a constant speed and step on the gas padel for acceleration, I could not hear the high-pitch sound.

I did not hear it when I test drove it. I guess it's very noisy on the busy street.

Does it have something to do with the engine or transmission? Is the engine or transmission system not so good on this car? I am feeling bad... PLEASE please give some imput. Thanks a lot.

vinney · January 2002

All the sounds you described are pretty much normal engine noise and vary depending on engine load and what gear it's in. My 2000 lx auto does this all the time. It makes a sewing machine type sound when accelarating which I think is a good sound. I wouldn't worry and just enjoy your new ride!

aparnet2 · January 2002

vinney:I appreciate your nice responding input. I went for a ride early this morning. Actually, the high-pitched sound is always there behind the other sound, no matter what gear the auto is in. Its so easy to tell the two sounds apart. The frequency of the high-pitched one goes up (down) sharply with acceleration (deceleration). I am not sure about the sound of the sewing machine though
:-)

stevem327 · January 2002

It sounds as though you have a pretty complex situation on your hands and that your dealer isn't willing to help you out at all. I would contact the local bar association in your city and ask them to recommend a lawyer who specializes in consumer law. Don't just get a general practice attorney out of the yellow pages. Find a lawyer who does nothing but consumer protection cases.

If you live in the Washington, DC area I can recommend a very good attorney who saved me over $10,000 on a very bad car deal last summer. In my case, the dealer actually violated a federal truth-in-lending law and that's the only reason I got out of the deal. Most lawyers will meet with you in person for an initial consultation and at that time he or she will be able to review all of your paperwork and tell you if you have a case against the dealer.

Sorry to hear about all of this. I've been there myself and it ain't no fun, so I know how you're feeling right now. Hang in there.

thor8 · January 2002

I read your case and I simpatize with you, but the bottom line is that you signed the contract, and it can be argued in favor of the dealership. Your case is typical, the buyer sits there in the cubicle hoping he gets the car and worrying about the deal while the salesman and the sales manager are ploting different angles and strategies to maximize their profits, the buyer is at a disadvantage because is under stress, they agree to something and then they make the papers diferently, if caugth before signing, the salesman will say oooppps, the secretary or whoever made a mistake, let me correct it, be back in a minute, they plot some more and comes back with a different angle, sorry to tell you, but my boss wont let me do it like we agreed but this is what we can do for you..... they will wear down the customer until finally is easier to agree than figth it, or start all over again in another dealership.

Keep in mind that most dealerships have their own attorneys while you have to go thru the hazzle of finding one and then paying him with very poor odds in you favor, sometimes just by the act of getting a lawyer one falls into another mud hole, then they have the paper work to prove their case while all you have is your word. Sometimes they will concede if a particular customer is extremely hard headed and willing to go to extremes and create bad publicity, and say we do not want a customer who things he was treated wrong, so we are willing to cancel the contract but the car is titled in your name and is used and we are going to discount the depreciation from it, back to square one.

Things that hurt you is what you don't know, that is why they have the small print and long and confusing forms, to discourage the customer from reading all that stuff.

One of the benefits of buying premium cars is that most of that chicanery is over with.

mikefm58 · January 2002

The best advice I can give is to talk to a lawyer. The dealer really pulled a fast one on you and you're at fault by not reading everything. Here in Orlando all the dealers require a car buyer to sign a binding arbitration form that would result in the loser paying the winner's attorney fees. So be careful if you pursue the case with a lawyer, it could get real expensive if you also signed a binding arbitration form.

Good luck and let us know how you make out.

rtfmdude · January 2002

On a 4dr accord, does everyone have a bump on the floor board on the driver side rear seat area? If this is suppose to be there, it seems like a bad design. My is a 2001

rtfmdude · January 2002

The rear defogger on the accord doesn't seem to work very well. I have a 2001 accord sedan and I live in San Diego. I get dew on my windows in the morning. I turn the defrogger on and by the time it auto shut off (which is about 15 minutes later) I still can't see out the back windows clearly.
Anyone else notice this.

nofeer · January 2002

Try using the a/c with a bit of heat, to dry out the moist air. the a/c acts as a dehumidifier

stevem327 · January 2002

You should just keep a squeegee in your car and use it to wipe the dew off in the morning. I'm guessing your overnight low temps in San Diego are in the 40s/50s during the winter? If so, the defogger won't do a lot of good on dew that is that temperature. It works best on ice or frost, not water.

Try the squeegee method and I bet that will work. Or, move to Buffalo NY and see if your defogger works better in that environment (just kidding)!

mujhc · January 2002

I will contact a lawyer. I, however, think I have a case just the fact they increased the car price by 1400 based on the maintenance plan which was neither discussed nor signed on.
Again thanks a lot for reading my rather long story and I'd like to spread it more so that any other consumers don't have to go through this unpleasant process. After all we should be happy buying a new car. I'll update on this case after I contact a lawyer. Thanks again and Happy New Year!

stevem327 · January 2002

Just make sure you find a lawyer who specializes in consumer protection cases. Don't just pick any lawyer out of the yellow pages. Contact the bar association in your city and ask them for a referral for a consumer rights attorney.

I'm not an attorney myself, but simply overcharging you for the price of the car isn't against the law. It's unethical, but not illegal (unless they sold you an Accord for $70,000 or something crazy like that). Overcharging you $3,000 is wrong, but they are within their rights to do that if they think someone will pay that, in my humble opinion.

In order to get out of this deal, you probably need to be able to show that the dealer intentionally defrauded you in some way. Have your lawyer review every single piece of paper that you signed and hopefully he or she will find something irregular or questionable that will allow you to get out of this deal. It costs a dealership thousands of dollars to litigate one car deal in court (legal fees, depositions, court costs), and most of them choose to take the car back rather than spend that kind of money.

Just remember, never ever sign any document that you haven't read completely or that you don't understand fully. Your signature is like dynamite. Be very, very careful with it!

dfwk2500 · January 2002

I quickly read over your posts, and while a lawyer should be able to help you, you can also help yourself. When you receive the maintenance agreement and extended warranty agreement and credit life agreement look for the termination language. Since they likely did not show you the full agreements at the dealership, just the brochure, there should be a cancellation provision that lets you notify them within 30 or 60 days of receipt of the agreement if you don't want to accept the terms. You usually then receive a full refund of the price if you follow the instructions for cancellation. The refund will likely be made payable to you and the finance company if you financed the purchase price of the agreements. Whether your finance company will let you keep it or whether they will only allow you to turn them back to them and consider them an advance prepayment of some principle is something only time will tell. But in any event it essentially lowers the original principle amount or gives you "cash back" out of the transaction. You can go to any reputable Honda (or other dealer) and purchase Honda Care even after you purchased the car.

ickes · January 2002

http://www.europeanhonda.demon.nl/

Canyoncrest · January 2002

I only have some photos of the Euro version.

http://www.europeanhonda.demon.nl/2003accord_news.htm

diploid · January 2002

I'm so curious I'd be happy with even a shot taken by 35mm camera with grainy quality.

mujhc · January 2002

The result is 1400 was deducted from the car price. I went to the dealer and just demanded it. I didn't mention a lawyer or bad publicity, both of which I was prepared to do, but I didn't have to since they accepted my term eventually. I had been so upset that I was going to have it publicized on Sun Time regardless of the result. But after I saw his family photo on his desk, I changed my mind. I guess I wanted to get it over with as soon as I could.
I have purchased many cars in the past but honestly none of them was unpleasant. Now I have to question everything, everyone and be cautious all the time. Some nice way to live a life. Here's the advice from the stupid one: take your recorder with you when you have to make any kind of deal. If I had recorded when he proudly told me "I lowered your rate to 18%," they wouldn't have had any way out. Today initially he still insisted we discussed the maintenance plan. Do they ever give up?
Yes I will cancel the credit insurance, GAP coverage, and extended warranty within 2 months. Again thanks everyone for your advice and I promise I'll do my best not to make similar mistake in the future. Happy New Year.
PS. I had a feeling that they were very aware(or afraid) of Honda Headquarter.

tigerjon1 · January 2002

Good for you! I'm glad you got things worked out. Personally I would never do business with that particular dealer again. Also I would let them know this. Those rats will continue to do it to others weither you tell them taht or not, but at least you will have let them know that your not going to tolerate their crude business practices. Unfortunatly, odds are the next dealership you visit will attempt the same thing. What's the old saying, 'Rats of a feather will flock together' or something like that.

dtownfb · January 2002

Glad it worked out for you mujhc. The lesson learned here is to read the agreement before it's signed. Don't let them (F&I guys) rush you to sign the papers. If you've come that far in the car buying process, you're probably are buying one of their vehicles. Take your time and make sure youare in agreement with everything on the papers. If not then ask questions and be prepared to walk away if you aren't happy.

mikefm58 · January 2002

Glad to hear the good news, I'm happy for you, now that it's over. Stories like yours just confirms my feelings about car dealers and salesman. How in God's name can people like that look themself in the mirror every morning and say "Man I'm successful. I can't wait to get to work and see how much I can swindle the next guy for."

thor8 · January 2002

Same here, needless to say you learned your lesson, what the say, the best lessons are learned the hard way?.

I have bougth many cars for the last 30 years, I have been in and heard of so much chicanery that I could write a paper about it.

I cant think of no other business more dreadfull than buying a car, today that I am older and confortable still cringe about the idea, I have to buy a new car for my wife, six months ago I went to a dealer and he started his riga marole, in the middle of it I got up and got in my car and left, at least it was better than the time before were we traded words, they were looking from behind the glass panel and wondering what happened, I should have got a car by now but dont have the stomach, I will force myself one of this days because I cant let her go by herself, they will do a job on her for sure.

stevem327 · January 2002

You are very lucky! Usually dealers will not back down like that, so my guess is they had some sort of exposure or potential liability on their part and were worried you were going to see a lawyer who would've found this out for you.

I went through a similar situation last July while trying to purchase a Nissan Altima that cost me $900 in legal fees but in the long run I saved over $10,000 in the process, so it was all for the good. Now I'm the happy owner of a 2001 Accord.

I have the utmost contempt for car dealers. I think they are some of the most unethical, dishonest, and distrustful people you'll ever have to deal with. The next time I buy a car, I'm almost certain I'm going to have a buying service do it for me. I guess to be fair, there are some honest car dealers out there. But the vast majority of them I wouldn't touch with a 10-foot pole.

That picture of his family on his desk that you mentioned? Don't let that fool you. He just has that up there to give you the impression that he's some sort of God-fearing, honest, family man who won't steer you wrong. Nothing could be farther from the truth, though. He's really a wolf in sheep's closing (like most dealers are).

Just remember...NEVER sign anything that you haven't read completely or do not understand fully. If you're unsure about the whole car buying process, have a buying service do it for you, or bring someone along who's got more experience than you do and can spot a bad deal.

Sorry to come down on any car dealers out there who are reading this. I know that there are some of you who are good, honest people. I guess I just haven't been lucky enough to meet any of them yet!

mikefm58 · January 2002

Have any of you tried Autobytel.com? I bought one of my vehicles that way and it was by far the easiest car purchase I ever made. The internet salesman gave me complete price quotes over the phone, which included the purchase price, sales tax, tag, title, and any misc. fees. I had already arranged financing with my credit union. All I had to do was set up an appt. for a test drive and then sign the paper work. The price was pretty competitive too. I think I could have saved a couple hundred had I spent an agonizing afternoon or evening haggling with someone else, but it was well worth the ease and peace of mind.

jmincher · January 2002

I am having trouble selling my car and was curious if anyone had any advice, since its an Accord I thought I would post it here.

2001 EX-V6 white with tan leather, sunroof, TCS, etc...you all know what comes on them.

The car is in immaculate condition with 12,500 miles. We bought the car in Sept. 2000 when they first hit the dealerships but we just never drive the car.

We had a baby very soon after that and drive the SUV everywhere.

I am asking $19,000 for it and would take $18,500 which is just payoff.

My wife's commute to work is less than a mile and honestly that is about as far as we ever drive it.

My wife parks it in front of her bank everyday which is on the Main Street in town and I took an ad out in the paper.

I know I would beaten up trying to trade it in so I am willing to be patient. Any thoughts on the selling price or help would be appreciated.

qwalls · January 2002

Post your question over in Real-World Trade-In Values.

robr2 · January 2002

Post the details on the car including your locale in the forum entitled:

Real World Trade In Values

The experts over there will give you a realistic selling price as well as some ideas on selling it fast.

Good Luck.

stevem327 · January 2002

Do you happen to live near any CarMax locations? I had a 2001 Accord with only 2,100 miles on it that I took to them and they offered me blue book value for it (not wholesale/black book, but actual Kelly Blue Book value).

A dealer that I went to was only willing to give me $2,300 BELOW what CarMax offered.

jmincher · January 2002

I am having trouble selling my car and was curious if anyone had any advice, since its an Accord I thought I would post it here.

2001 EX-V6 white with tan leather, sunroof, TCS, etc...you all know what comes on them.

The car is in immaculate condition with 12,500 miles. We bought the car in Sept. 2000 when they first hit the dealerships but we just never drive the car.

We had a baby very soon after that and drive the SUV everywhere.

I am asking $19,000 for it and would take $18,500 which is just payoff.

My wife's commute to work is less than a mile and honestly that is about as far as we ever drive it.

My wife parks it in front of her bank everyday which is on the Main Street in town and I took an ad out in the paper.

I know I would beaten up trying to trade it in so I am willing to be patient. Any thoughts on the selling price or help would be appreciated.

sobers · January 2002

Let me know, I have atleast 2/3 friends looking for a used EX V6.

ickes · January 2002

I checked with them when we bought our Accord EX and was able to get a price $600 lower from the dealer.

isellhondas · January 2002

I hate hearing stories like this.

Sadly, I guess there are dealerships that still operate that way.

jmincher · January 2002

I did post this in Real World Trade-In Values. Brent and rroyce said I was pretty reasonable with my offer. My problem is very few people are looking right now.

I guess with the low interest rate financing at the dealerships nobody wants to look at individuals selling cars.

sobers-I am located in Oklahoma. Be more than happy to give more info if asked.

stevem327, I have never heard of a Carmax around here but I will do a quick search on the Internet.

Thanks.

jmincher · January 2002

is in Dallas metroplex which is three hours away. If the vehicle doesn't sell in a month or so I might go down and see what they would give me for it.

Thanks.

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