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2009 Toyota Venza Crossover

Karen_CMKaren_CM Posts: 5,020
edited March 18 in Toyota
On this very day, 2009 Toyota Venzas will begin rolling off the assembly line at Toyota Motor Manufacturing in Kentucky. Toyota builds its newest five-passenger crossover on the same line as the Camry, and the 2009 Toyota Venza is indeed the tall Camry wagon it appears to be.

2009 Toyota Venza First Drive

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  • berriberri Posts: 4,142
    Unless you need one now, I'd hold off a year or so on the Venza. It's too aggresively priced right now. This recession is likely to linger on for awhile. There will be better deals. They will drop around 4 grand off a Highlander as a starting point right now. The Buick Enclave is offering good deals now that are way better than a year ago. You used to pay a premium for a Camry, now they are one of the best deals around for a midsized car. I expect that while Toyota may not lower the price directly, there will either be rebates or special trim packages down the road that bundle the options at a bigger discount. Plus, this car hasn't been around Japan prior to the US market, so there is a higher chance of teething problems the first year out. Usually when you are first out of the box you end up getting screwed.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    In order not to hog the Corolla thread with non-Corolla discussions let's discuss what the new vehicle may be like. Likes, dislikes, needs?
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    I understand that it was presented to the dealer/principals last week in Hawaii. Very little was said about it.

    I'm guessing that we hear about it in detail during the auto show season for debut later in the year.

    Georgetown or Japan?
    FWD or AWD?
    2.4L or 3.5L or hybrid?
    Pricing?

    Will this sell?
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,687
    as long as it doesn't supplant or make irrelevant the Sienna. They really ought to offer it in 2.4L and 2.4-hybrid versions only. Either you or mackabee was saying that RAV and HL are Toyota's offerings to those folks who want a Camry wagon. I don't think so. Those models are a poor substitute for a proper wagon, which would benefit from being lower to the ground/lower-roofed when it comes to fuel economy and handling.

    On the flip side, Sienna is HUGE. Some people need a huge and versatile vehicle like that, and this FTSX will not be a good replacement for it.

    I am still not warmed up to the looks of the "Zio" - that is the vehicle we are talking about here, right?

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    I think so but it will have a different NA name. I really like the pic that Mack last showed in the Corolla thread. If this new vehicle is not too large then the 2.4L would be a perfect engine ( and the 2.4L+ HSD even better ) to drive it.
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    They could call it the Camry Mark X! That would be catchy and we could count them towards Camry sales. Just like Honda used to count the wagons, couples, and sedans as Accord sales. :shades:
    Mackabee
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,687
    ...and Toyota counts the Solaras in with the Camrys for sales counts (and it used to do the same thing with the wagons when there was a wagon).

    I bet if they do call it the Camry "xxx" it will be something more catchy and Americanized (and less appearing to plagiarize Lincoln).

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • cubssoxscubssoxs Posts: 139
    so does anyone know when this new crossover is supposed to come out?
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    I heard 'within the year'. I'd guess next summer as a new 2009 model. But it's only a guess.
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    You're right! We started doing it because Honda was doing it first. Turnabout is fair play ;)
    I don't get your statement about the "less appearing to plagiarize Lincoln" :confuse:
    Mackabee
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,687
    Well, didn't Lincoln have the whole Mark series? I believe the latest was the Mark VIII?

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Posts: 4,173
    Don;t forget the Mark X F-150 thing. ;)
  • drfilldrfill Posts: 2,484
    Toyota is putting a plan in place for the eventual marginalization of the minivan.

    The Odyssey and Sienna are the two best in the market, and they are seeing 10-15% drops every year.

    The crossover is replacing the minivan, and Toyota is coming up with a crossover that thinks it's a minivan.

    It's a plan. In 5 years, we'll see if it bears fruit. Toyota could be ahead of the curve with this large, low crossover. Chrysler may get credit for starting it. Will Toyota perfect it? :blush:

    DrFill
  • kenymkenym Posts: 405
    Ford and Chevy already dropped there minivans. :cry:
    The only minivans still on the market are from Honda, Toyota, Chrysler and Kia. :shades:
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    The Mark X has been in Japan for quite a long time. I'm sure they will call it something else when they bring it here.
    :)
    Mackabee
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,687
    and soon....VW. Which also has crossovers in two sizes, the larger built on a platform sturdy enough to do some serious offroading supposedly.

    And Nissan, with its also-ran minivan.

    I have a theory that most of the subsidence in the minivan segment in the last couple of years is all the domestic fleet van sales going away. Odyssey sales are consistent. Sienna sales were way up for quite a while.

    If Toyota does produce this huge crossover in a size above Highlander, I hope no-one will have the brilliant idea that it makes the Sienna redundant - that would be a case of the marketing department getting ahead of itself and the market too.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • drfilldrfill Posts: 2,484
    It's a self-fulfilling prophecy, if Sienna sales fall under 100k.

    Toyota can engineer an accelerated demise of the Sienna, if the croosover hits. I think it has one more redesign in it. That will buy it a few more years. :)

    7-8 years from now, I think Sienna will be a footnote in Toyota history, but I hope I'm wrong. :(

    DrFill

    DrFill
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    My impression is that this new vehicle will be substantially smaller than a Sienna but larger than a Matrix. My guess is that it's about RAV-sized but in a wagon shape for those not wanting an SUV/CUV. 'Wagon' best describes it.
  • drfilldrfill Posts: 2,484
    The vehicle on the Toyota website is much smaller than a vehicle potentially produced in other markets, with a 3rd row, and the 3.5 V6.

    I'll try to find more information on it.

    DrFill
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    It will be the size of a Camry.
    Mackabee
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