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Midnight Grey
Automatic
Option Package 4
Carpeted Floor Mats
Cargo Net
Mud Guards
Sunroof Deflector
Selling price was $13,400 including destination and the $500 rebate + tax/title which was a good step off of the 15k+ the dealer started at and just under Edmunds invoice(13,485) and a decent amount off of Edmunds TMV (14,196). I was pretty happy with the deal, I had contacted several of the internet services and was offered 3% over and 1% over and I went in with 1% under a my target. Despite their whining about losing money I think they would have gone even lower, we negotiated for just about an hour and they came down pretty quick.
They had to pull from another dealers inventory and that dealer had lost the keyless remote which must be present or the alarm goes off?!? So I was given a loaner until Tuesday when I can pick up the real deal and a free oil change for the trouble.
Has anyone heard anything about spoiler availability, the dealer did not have any information on when this might be available.
Thanks for all your advice!
Thanks
Drawbacks as I see them:
1. Hyundais have historically poor resale value. If you plan on holding the car for several years, this will not be an issue because the lower resale will be offset by the lower initial price. But if you trade cars every 2-3 years, you might do better with a car like the Civic with a high resale value.
2. Hyundais are not status symbols. If you care that your friends and co-workers may scrunch up their noses at your new Elantra, buy something else.
3. Fuel economy. Elantras are powerful for their class (140hp) but not the most frugal cars with gas--mid 30s on the highway is as good as it will get. If that's important for you, look at fuel-sippers like the Civic or Echo.
4. Refinement. There are more refined (smoother engines etc.) small cars out there, like the Jetta and Civic, albeit at a much higher price. If you want refinement, look elsewhere but take an Elantra for a test drive anyway, as you might be pleasantly surprised.
5. Dealer availability. There are lots more Honda, Nissan, Toyota et. al. dealers than Hyundai dealers. If you live in a big city, probably not an issue.
Obviously there were not issues for me, as I bought my 2001 Elantra in October and am very happy with it so far--and I've owned Civics, Sentras, Toyotas and many other cars. Good luck on your car search!
Its the wifes car, and it has 400 miles on it already got 26-27 mpg on the first tank! No issuse, cept its real cold and the wife cant use the sunroof. I used the Emunds TMV as a guide walked in to the sales person and then asked to speak to the manager. Told them not to mess around this is what I want this is my proce. I did not budge, he accepted it and away we went!
Bought it 3 weeks ago and so far I love it. Quick(compared to the prizm I already own) and just simply looks nicer than the corollas. Also with the stiff suspension it just feels more substantial.
As a bonus I bought it at a one price dealer and it was mispriced so I got package 3?(cd player etc.) for the package 2 price. Better than that they gave me $3200 for my '92 maz mpv. I know that doesn't sound that great but it needed a new tranny, but when test driven the dealer couldn't tell cause they would get in and stomp on the gas. At high revs it was fine, but at low revs it took an eternity to shift. lol
Is there any way to negotiate a price that is under the invoice amount as stated by the dealer? What i have in mind is the Auto 4 door one with the options of CD player , cruise control and the Keyless entry + alarm.
I feel comfortable to shell out a price of 12.8 K for this. Wud it be a good price ??
The dealer is quoting 13.3K after the rebate.
Thanks
Ganesh
They liked the Elantra's smooth, quiet ride, standard features, warranty, and price. They weren't crazy about the fuel economy and said that ABS is a hard to find option (similiar to the 2000, of which I knew no one who had ABS).
They gave lower marks on the car's acceleration, emergency handling, and trunk while giving high marks to the climate control system and controls/displays. In many areas did it beat out the other three cars. While they don't especially recommend the car due to unproven reliability, they do really seem to like it.
THEN- I am at a friends house up in a mountain town in the boonies and the day after Halloween the car won't start!! All the lights go on and stay on strong, not the battery. So Roadside Assistance had a tow truck come and tow it to the nearest dealership (a half hour away!) When i called the dealership the next morning, the service manager asked me what had been wrong with the car!!! He said it started just fine, but they were hooking it up to the computer because the Check Engine Light was on (SINCE THE THIRD DAY WE HAD THE CAR, WHICH MY DEALERSHIP ACTED SO UNCONCERNED ABOUT!!) Later that day, found out that the "Ignition Coil Pack" had gone bad (he had no explaination as to why this happened on such a new car), and they fixed the recall issue ("Malfunctioing Mass Airflow Sensor") at that point also. I was carless, in the boonies, for two days! (Luckily at a friend's cuz I have a toddler!) The best they could offer me was a rental car at half-price, which I took after calling Hyundai Corporate, and the person there suggesting I take it and save receipts for possible reimbursement. I sent Hyundai that stuff the next day- still haven't heard from them!
So, does the trouble end here? Oh no! We had had the car back for less than two weeks when the Check Engine light started coming on again, this time, intermittently on and off. So, this was mid-November. Of course, they did not have any service appointments available for weeks because of holiday closings and existing schedules! In the following weeks, the car had increasingly less power. I was on the freeway, with the gas TO THE FLOOR and was only going 40 MPH!!! I couldn't believe it (those of you who have this car know it has a lot of power, and flooring it usually makes it jump into action!) Luckily, the day it was this bad was the actual day we were taking it in.
So, the verdict this time? Bad spark plug cables. (Once again, no expaination as to why this occured on such a NEW car). When we got the car back (once again, a whole day later) we not only found that the spark plug cables had been replaced but that once AGAIN they replaced the "Ignition Coil Pack" That's twice, on the same part, in FOUR months. If they have to replace that part again in the next year, it falls under our state's lemon law!!!
I also immediately changed them in the elantra too but all was tight.
The Eleantra has TWO spark pacs and maybe they only replaced one the first time. Its possible that the wires were bad, but kinda doubt it.... they were probably reading the error codes pointing to the spark plugs and wires, plugs and spark pac is all there is .
Maybe the troubles are over for you now.
Good luck
Tony
I am interested in buying Elantra 2001 automatic transmission, with option 3 package plus, carpets and mud guards. What should be the pricing for that much equipment. The dealer I met, quoted such higher that it makes other better brand names look cheaper. May be he took me as the dumbest or richest person in this part of LA.
Please suggest me a price, I should pay for Elantra 2001 with auto transmission and option 3 plus mud guards and carpets.
Thanks - ashish
P.S. Note that the prices I'm talking about are not "out the door" prices. They include destination but not taxes, title, or license, as I have no idea what those would be in LA.
Hyundai will launch turbo intercooler diesel Elantra this summer....
$13,093 invoice, tax and title (more than $230 under invoice)
+ 435 delivery
- 500 customer rebate
-1,540 trade-in (they think they screwed us on that, but WE know that our auto, though good lookin', had more vertical miles on it than those listed on the odometer)
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$11,488 total. Not too bad. We have Edmunds and this forum to thank for the complete lowdown. I need to add, for those who would rather eat their own arm than deal with a salesperson whom you correctly suspect is trying to confuse you with double-talk and funky house terminology, check out Motley Fool's (www.fool.com) Major Financial Decisions on Buying a Car -- incredibly informative, complete with glossary.
For those thinking about buying, I would pass along:
1) Buy at the end of the month (and, if you can, at the end of the year)
2) Negotiating can and probably will be a long, LONG process. So, get plenty of sleep the night before, make sure your stomach is full and your bladder is empty, and bring someone who's sole job is to nod in your direction and say "Whatever HE/SHE wants."
3) Above all, if things stall with your salesperson, don't be afraid to walk. We couldn't believe he followed.
The only problem so far is that we were issued two keys but only one remote. When we asked, the saleperson said that Hyundai only issued one per vehicle. After we got home, we found out that if the security system was engaged with the remote, the alarm would sound and the starter disabled if the key alone was used to open the door. What good is that second key without a remote? Called the salesperson, his sales manager, the general manager and finally the owner, and got the runaround. Called the Hyundai America 800# and was assured that TWO remotes should have been issued. Called the salesperson back, who said he'd mail another remote by Jan 3. Still haven't received it. We'll see.
Other than that, the car is great. I'm recommending Edmunds and Hyundais to anyone who'll listen. Thanks again, Edmunds, for taking the mystery out of what could have been a more costly experience.
It only comes on I am sure in the defroster modes and not straight heat only.
AC units dont seem to drag the engine down like they did a few years ago..... I would say no need for concern as mine does it too... all my cars do it. My Ford ranger does it BUT There is no indication other than me hearing the compressor come on.
Dealer claims it is common with Elantras and cannot be fixed.
Its certainly not be the best price negotiated in the mkt but thanks to edmunds and this discussion board contributors, the decision making and buying process became quite educative and simpler for a greenhorn like me.
Now lets see how the vehicle performs and hope i get to contribute something useful to this board in the future.
Thank u once again, members and Edmunds !!!
Ganesh
miles on it. Turned out it had ONE HUNDRED and 64,000. Has turned out to be a good car, only needed tires and a window regulator. So yes, their reliability has risen considerably from what I remember in the late 80's. We liked it so much we just bought a new 2000 Elantra wagon, last one on the lot, maybe last one anywhere? Anyway, we LOVE this car. $11,700 (Pkg 3, automatic) after unloading a troublesome Frontier pickup. Took a holiday shake-down cruise from North Carolina to Pennsylvania, and it performed flawlessly. Handling is excellent, comfortable, good mileage (35mpg). Interior is a little noisy as the rear fender wells are inside the cabin instead of in a trunk and the environmental controls feel somewhat cheap, but other than that we have no complaints. I was expecting Kumho tires but was pleasantly surprised to find it was wearing Michelin rubber.
Would've bought a 2k1 but (sniff) no more wagons!
Also, most everyone is saying how happy they are with their 2000 and 2001 Hyundais and how much they get for the money. Well, sometimes you actually do get what you pay for. Some examples? The Hyundais give lots of gadgets for the money (mostly electronics which is cheap). However, ask if they have complete stainless exhaust systems or if the majority of the body is made from galvanized steel. The answer is pretty much "No". I live in the snowy North where salt is used a lot and the Hyundais are rolling rust piles in just a few years. Most other brands are not like that....even ones like the Dodge Neon and Chevy Cavalier (not my favorites either).
An aquaintance of mine at work has a new Sonata. Looks nice from a distance, then I rode in it the other day and I was extremely unimpressed with the fact that I could see molding flash all over the interior pieces and that the dash seams were all crooked. I mean really crooked. It was also very noisy and the tires had nothing to do with it. The car was cheaply made, plain and simple.
Now I understand some folks don't have a lot of money to spend and might be tempted by the great warranty and low price. However, you might remember when Chrysler had their 7/70 warranty and very good prices in the 1980s. The cars were still subpar and it showed after a couple of years. I don't care how good a warranty is, if I have to sit in the dealership all of the time it doesn't mean much.
My recommendation? If money is an issue, buy a used Civic, Corolla, or Protege and save yourself from certain long term grief. You can also sell any of these cars for a heck of a lot more money if you ever decide to do so one day. If money is not an issue, the Mazda Protege ES blows Hyundai into the weeds for not very much more money. It's more refined, definitely more reliable and has proven so, is fast, is fun to drive, and will serve you well for years to come.
Hyundai will have to do a lot more than just produce a 2000 or 2001 model that APPEARS to be better thna their previous offerings before I'd ever consider one. Especially when you consider that the Hyundai has a low purchase price, but it is not a good value. Better to spend the extra 1.5k or so and get soemthing that doesn't lose 60% of it's value the day after you buy it.
Also, most everyone is saying how happy they are with their 2000 and 2001 Hyundais and how much they get for the money. Well, sometimes you actually do get what you pay for. Some examples? The Hyundais give lots of gadgets for the money (mostly electronics which is cheap). However, ask if they have complete stainless exhaust systems or if the majority of the body is made from galvanized steel. The answer is pretty much "No". I live in the snowy North where salt is used a lot and the Hyundais are rolling rust piles in just a few years. Most other brands are not like that....even ones like the Dodge Neon and Chevy Cavalier (not my favorites either).
An aquaintance of mine at work has a new Sonata. Looks nice from a distance, then I rode in it the other day and I was extremely unimpressed with the fact that I could see molding flash all over the interior pieces and that the dash seams were all crooked. I mean really crooked. It was also very noisy and the tires had nothing to do with it. The car was cheaply made, plain and simple.
Now I understand some folks don't have a lot of money to spend and might be tempted by the great warranty and low price. However, you might remember when Chrysler had their 7/70 warranty and very good prices in the 1980s. The cars were still subpar and it showed after a couple of years. I don't care how good a warranty is, if I have to sit in the dealership all of the time it doesn't mean much.
My recommendation? If money is an issue, buy a used Civic, Corolla, or Protege and save yourself from certain long term grief. You can also sell any of these cars for a heck of a lot more money if you ever decide to do so one day. If money is not an issue, the Mazda Protege ES blows Hyundai into the weeds for not very much more money. It's more refined, definitely more reliable and has proven so, is fast, is fun to drive, and will serve you well for years to come.
Hyundai will have to do a lot more than just produce a 2000 or 2001 model that APPEARS to be better thna their previous offerings before I'd ever consider one. Especially when you consider that the Hyundai has a low purchase price, but it is not a good value. Better to spend the extra 1.5k or so and get soemthing that doesn't lose 60% of it's value the day after you buy it.
I live in the North too. Any low-end car is made of galvanized steel...even volkswagen Jettas, which is a compact "High end car". We just had about 2 1/2 feet of snow. i waxed my car before the winter. Im having NO problems with that. As long as you take care of it, rust won't affect any car regardless of paint job and whatnot.
Well, my dash aint crooked. car is like a rock still after 10,000 miles. So seriously, get your facts straight before you criticize hyundai.
It is not cheaply made. go compare a 2001 civic to a 2001 elantra. The elantra is of equal quality now interior and as well as exterior for a much cheaper cost. bigger engine, more features for less money. Plain and simple
If you know anything about the history of Honda in the US then you will know that their first offerings were no gems. I worked for a Honda dealership in the late 70's when the Civic, Accord, and Prelude first came out. They were great little cars but they had their share of "weird" problems too. It took a while for them to catch on and that was only because people needed a cheap affordable car. Hyundai is coming along quite nicely. I happen to own 2 of them, a 2000 Elantra Wagon and a 2001 Santa Fe. As far as fit and finish I'd compare them to anything out there.
Purchased a 2001 Elantra on Dec. 9 and now have over 1200 miles on it. No problems so far.
It came with an automatic, package 2, CA emissions, floor mats, cargo net, mud flaps and an extra transmitter for the locks.
After rebate it was $12,700 plus tax and plate fees.
The car rides great and is quiet.
The dealer offered me a 10 year bumper to bumper warranty for $750.00
Since I keep my cars over 100,000 miles I think the money is well worth it. It comes with a zero deductible, is also transferable for $35.00 or you may cancel and receive a prorated amount that is left on the contract.
The five extra years on the on Powertrain may come in handy. Never know about the rest of the car.
I asked a mechanic how they hold up to the salt here in PA and they do not see many that have a problem with rust. Only some of the ones from the late eighties. I guess it's how you maintain the car.
Oh, By the way, Check out the Edmunds web site for the new side crash tests for the Elantra - I guess they do work!
The frontal tests are due this month.
The Consumers Report for this month rates the Elantra. Some interesting reading for all you Hyundai fans.
The Protege ES is a nice car, but it will set you back almost 3 grand more than an Elantra GLS (comparing base price to base price only--let's not get into a lengthy price thread here, or justin will complain that we're not talking about CARS ). I was impressed by the Protege until I drove one with 21M on it this week. It was already falling apart! Lots of rattles, and it felt cheap and jittery compared to my '01 Elantra (which to be fair has only 1000 miles). But I thought the Protege should hold up better than that.
Actually, Kia does have one model now based on a Hyundai: the new Optima is based on the Sonata. It'll probably have those same terrible gaps in the dash.
Re all the "cheap" electronics in the Elantra: heated mirrors, instrument-cluster shift indicators, operate-with-engine-off windows (must be a shorter name for that), power windows/locks/mirrors, etc. If they're so cheap, why don't other cars like Civic, Protege, and Corolla add these nice features that make a car more pleasant to live with?
Re crash test scores: I know certain people will be disappointed to learn that the '01 Elantra bested the '01 Civic in the side crash scores (comparing 4drs to 4drs). Mostly the people who have been touting the Civic's superior crash scores on these forums ad nauseum.
And a big thanks to the posters who have told us how they successfully got the 2nd remote for their new Elantras! I'm going to go back for mine next week.
Thats a buy! Beats Edmunds price and all that I found before I purchased my 2001. This has too include the $500.00 rebate! If not WOW!